Motorist who uses High beam on two-way provincial roads

[dr. d]

I too use high beams in provincial roads but responsibly.

please explain po.

[jut703]

but at what cost!
you probably see better with fogs, but the oncoming traffic certainly can't, because your lights are blinding them.

Sa baba naman nakatapat ang fogs, not blinding at all. The only blinding fogs I've seen are the plug and play HID fogs.


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[dr. d]

Sa baba naman nakatapat ang fogs, not blinding at all. The only blinding fogs I've seen are the plug and play HID fogs.


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fogs are known for two things:
1. their ability to cut thru rain, smoke and fog; and
2. their uncontrollable glare. that is why, the use of fogs in the metro is (generally) illegal.

if you can drive at normal speeds at night, using foglights, that means your fogs are aimed too high and are blinding oncoming traffic.

i apologize for this foglight bashing, but... i have this thing against irresponsible use of foglights.. past experience..

[jut703]

I've been driving for years and have never been blinded by non-HID fogs.

Also, fogs don't offer any additional light for me, not even extra width. I've tried on many cars testing the output with just the low beam, the low beam and the fogs, and just the fogs. The fogs are just brighter park lights from my experience. Anything that the fogs can illuminate, the low beam can illuminate as well.

Ang purpose lang ng fogs, alam ko kung base model yung kotse na kasalubong ko or not [emoji23]


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[jut703]

fogs are known for two things:
1. their ability to cut thru rain, smoke and fog; and
2. their uncontrollable glare. that is why, the use of fogs in the metro is (generally) illegal.

if you can drive at normal speeds at night, using foglights, that means your fogs are aimed too high and are blinding oncoming traffic.

i apologize for this foglight bashing, but... i have this thing against irresponsible use of foglights.. past experience..

Parang contradicting yung statement 1 and 2 doc. Fog lamps supposedly give better illumination because they're mounted and aimed lower. However, since they're mounted low, they don't cause oncoming glare. I don't know of any car with OEM fog lamps aimed higher than headlamps.


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[dr. d]

perhaps we might be talking about two different "foglights"..
the one i refer to is that one with real yellow light... whether it is located under the bumper, over the bumper, in the bumper, atop the roof, on the headlight...
the "fogs" i think you refer to, what the casa installs that differentiates base from totl.. those are not real fog lights. they're just park lights on steroids. but some wise guys have replaced those with real yellow foglights, forgetting to have them aimed correctly. those are the ones who i recommend should "burn in hades"..

[dr. d]

Parang contradicting yung statement 1 and 2 doc. Fog lamps supposedly give better illumination because they're mounted and aimed lower. However, since they're mounted low, they don't cause oncoming glare. I don't know of any car with OEM fog lamps aimed higher than headlamps.


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no, they are not contradictory.
foglights' outstanding ability to illuminate the road thru fog, rain and smoke, is more a function of their wavelength, rather than their mounting position on the car.
the ability of the yellow light to pass thru fog, rain and smoke, also gives them that uncontrollable glare.

ah! that clinches it. we ARE talking of two different things..
as i said above, you are talking of what i playfully call, "park lights on steroids", and i am talking of real yellow foglights.. the ones that can get you a ticket should an astute police officer see you using it along EDSA at night..

the SAs and brochures call them "foglights", as it is more attractive to call them such. calling them more accurately as "bumper lights" may not be as positive an accessory as would "foglights". heh heh.

i have one in my AT wigo. nice novelty.. but i still prefer my headlights..
... had 'em in my 2003 totl cedia. now that is truly "mini-headlights"! nakakasilaw! halogen kasi at napaka-init! nakakahiya ngang gamitin, e..

[jut703]

Onga magkaiba nga tayo ng intindi doc. Kaya pala [emoji111]️


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[ninjababez]

ok lang ba park and foglight gamitin incase you thing nakakasilaw ka ng mga nasa harap mo? i mean di naman bawal yun diba?

[jut703]

ok lang ba park and foglight gamitin incase you thing nakakasilaw ka ng mga nasa harap mo? i mean di naman bawal yun diba?

Hindi bawal, but then it's your visibility that suffers. Why not just get your headlamps aligned properly and avoid plug and play HID kits?


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[Stigg ma]

meron pa yung ginagawa ng iba naman. sa malayo pa lang naka high beam, kapag nag flash ka magbaba naman ng ilaw pero bago kayo maglampasan saka ka niya sisilawin. hindi ka na makabawi, maiinis ka na lang sa sakit ng mata mo

naka full dark tint yan kaya balik high beam ulet...

sabi ko sa inyo ipagbawal ang full dark tint eh...

[ninjababez]

Hindi bawal, but then it's your visibility that suffers. Why not just get your headlamps aligned properly and avoid plug and play HID kits?
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oki doki thanks bro, plano ko sana gawin DRL din sya hehehe
no plans naman to use DIY type na projectors bro. after ng warranty pakabitan ko sya nung PJ version ng sport version nya (swift) para sunod parin sa regulation

[ninjababez]

naka full dark tint yan kaya balik high beam ulet...

sabi ko sa inyo ipagbawal ang full dark tint eh...

mga naka fort and moty madalas ganyan (no offense pero pasin ko lang)
sila din madalas nangbubully sa cute na swift ko and previously dun sa cute din na kia pride.

[kik0matsing]

but at what cost!
you probably see better with fogs, but the oncoming traffic certainly can't, because your lights are blinding them.

FYI

Sir ang fogs LAMPS nang adventure at montero hinde po nakakasilaw
Kaya i always use it. . .

[Gumusut_Amige]

I usually use my hi-beam on winding/twisting roads especially going to Baguio, pero I see to it na malayo pa lang ay low-beam na ako pag may kasalubong. at ginagamit ko rin sa mga medyo pasaway na drayber na ayaw mag low-beam kahit pitikan mo ng ilang beses.

sabi nga ng iba... may gamit din yung package na hidretrofit ni gary.

[ocean explorer]

Ganyan talaga sa mga pronvicial road lalo na sa madalang ang street lights, madilim ang paligid tapos naka~full tint pa sasakyan kaya naka high beam, nakakainis pero ano ba magawa natin? Kung tutuusin bawal yan kaso wala naman sumisita.

[red_one]

FYI

Sir ang fogs LAMPS nang adventure at montero hinde po nakakasilaw
Kaya i always use it. . .

Here's a good article about fog lamps..

Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply

That's the key point: fog lamps are meant to be used in heavy fog, rain, or snow to help the driver see the edges of the road close to the car so s/he can safely make progress through foul weather at very low speeds.

Why you should not use fog lamps at night time during normal driving conditions..

But foreground light is far less safety-critical than light cast well down the road into the distance, because at any significant speed (much above 25 mph / 40 kph), what's in the foreground is too close for you to do much about. That is, at normal road speeds, whatever is close enough to be within the foreground light is too close for you to avoid hitting. If you increase the foreground light (such as by turning on the fog lamps), your pupils react to the brighter pool of foreground light by constricting, which in turn substantially reduces your distance vision—especially since there's no increase in down-the-road distance light to go along with the increased foreground light. This is also the reason why it is not appropriate to have fog lamps lit with the high beam headlamps: if you're going fast enough to need high beams, you definitely don't want to spoil your distance vision by overly lighting the foreground.

So all in all, when we use front fog lamps inappropriately, we feel like our seeing is better than it really is and we unconsciously adjust our driving to match how safe we feel. That, in turn, makes us less safe!

[ninjababez]

thanks red

[Stigg ma]

simple lang kase... gamitin ang FOG lamps pag may FOG!!!

mga non factory installed FOG lamps nakaka silaw kase di nka align!!!

sa factory installed naman di nga nakaka silaw ang front FOG lights nakaka silaw naman ang REAR FOG lights kaya perwisyo pa din kung WALA NAMAN FOG!!!

[SiRbossR]

This is correct.

I usually use my hi-beam on winding/twisting roads especially going to Baguio, pero I see to it na malayo pa lang ay low-beam na ako pag may kasalubong. at ginagamit ko rin sa mga medyo pasaway na drayber na ayaw mag low-beam kahit pitikan mo ng ilang beses.

sabi nga ng iba... may gamit din yung package na hidretrofit ni gary.

Pag walang kasalubong, high beam.
Pag meron, switch to Low.

Ung mga napipikon pag may nakahigh beam sa likod niyo, baka naman sobrang bagal niyo magpatakbo at ayaw niyo pa overtake? Gamitin niyo dimmer niyo para di kayo masilaw sa rear view mirror niyo.

Daming ignorant drivers na alam lang mag drive inside the metro or in cities. I have driven across the Ph and ung mga sa probinsya talaga nakatira, like sa visayas and mindanao region, marunong gumamit ng ilaw nila, kahit PUV, or Truck drivers marurunong.

Yung mga nag da drive na mabagal tapos naka lowbeam and madilim ang kalsada, do yourself a favor and mag high beam pag walang kasalubong Kayo lalo kung merong gustong umovertake sa inyo. You are aiding them to see farther kung may traffic ahead or a corner because of your light para makatiyempo silang lagpasan kayo. Kaya minsan check mo muna sarili niyo kung bakit ba nakahigh beam ung mokong na nasa likod. Maybe he can drive on that road faster than you can.



Btw, Ung mga factory installed fog lights ng last gen vios, ung bilog (not sure kung bilog din ung sa bago) kahit stock ay sabog ang buga, sobrang nakakasilaw.