Are Makati's Smoke-Belching Tests Legal?

[crazy_boy]

Republic of Makati version.

Speaking of smoke emissions, my delivery truck was apprehended in the Pasig area for smoke belching early this year. They took the rear plate of the truck and gave the driver the TOP and a piece of paper with instructions on how to redeem the plate.

So I had the truck tested for emission in a LTO accredited emission testing center here in our place. Then I personally went to the Pasig city hall to pay the fine. But I was told that I should have the truck tested in their own emission testing center in Pasig. That's the only testing center that they recognize. I told them how can I bring the truck to Pasig if it doesn't have its plate. It will just get flagged down along the way and we are based in the province. They don't care, I still need to bring the truck to their testing center.

I just walked out and went home, the next day I just looked for a 'certified' fixer to get the plate. After 3 days and around 2K, I got the plate.

reviving this thread..

Boybi, our delivery van was also apprehended in Pasig. ano ba yung tamang procedure to claim the plate?

[boybi]

Don't know the actual procedure. Yung fixer na bahala.

[IMm29]

This is the sad part -- having to resort to fixers. Sabagay, that's probably the unit's way of making money.

[v2g]

Need to revive this...
It happened to me too, around 1:45pm, yesterday under Guadalupe/Edsa bridge. I was driving our Nissan Urvan, a 2004 model, just a side note, this is a very well maintained private family van. Change oil every 5k, fuel filter ( primary & secondary) every 50k, air filter changed every 20K, total mileage is 145k only, and that's for almost 11years, well you get the point.

Anyways, Bigla ako flag down by one of these ASBU guys. I rolled down my window and said "ano po yon?" the guy said "sa smoke belching po" I kinda got irritated and looked at my LTO 2013 sticker. I told the ASBU guy "eh kaka-inspection lang nito nung January sa LTO Emissions. My family maintains our vehicles properly, if there is something wrong with our vehicles - we fix it.

I quickly told him "maayos itong sasakyan, wala kayo mahuhuli dito", but he insisted that i hand over my registration papers and license. I told him jokingly “dapat may makita kayong problema dito sa van kase nakaka-abala kayo.”

There were two more vehicles before my turn, man, hassle, paparahin ka without any justifiable cause (is that legal by the way?). Di naman umuusok muffler ko ng maitim na usok. Then came my turn, guess what? Wala!!! I passed their test!!!

Twelve (12) minutes for nothing!!! I told them “Sinabi ko na sa inyo na ayos yan, inabala nyo lang ako” Yung ginawa nila is a f#%#&^* waste of my time!!

Eto pa, the guy who made the inspection just smirked at me, wala man lang sinabing “pasensia na sa abala” , and that really ticked me off! when the guy returned my registration papers, i asked him “ano pa bisa ng LTO emissions if kung di rin pala applicable sa inyo?

He replied “LTO CORRUPT, NABABAYARAN EMISSIONS” I just shook my head again, is he implying that the reason why he flagged me down and did a test was because i corrupted my LTO emmisions inspections? - These people are arrogant mindless fools. I am a hard working, tax paying citizen, oh yes, i pay taxes in Makati too, tapos eto. Mga PERWISYO KAYO MAKATI ASBU!!! BTW, i got there names: M. Quinagutan, and J.M. Cristino or Crispino

Things that come into mind:
1. Flagging you down for no obvious reason. (Chamba-chamba baka makadali ng lagay)

2. Since they do not recognize LTO’s emmissions inspections to be credible, then what is the law of the land regarding emmisions? who has the final say?

3. ASBU’s way of approaching, flagging down, apprehending the suspected vehicles is wrong. Arrogante!! they should be properly trained in explaining to the people why they are flagged down? Sa akin, wala, nagpakilala lang na smoke belching, tapos hingi kagad ng registration papers. Walang, “Sorry for the inconvenience po, (atleast to appease) smoke belching campaign, para lang po ma check if ok parin ang ating exhaust / engine emmisions., para namin din po sa kalusugan ng lahat.
Hindi eh, hingi kagad ng papeles, wala paliwanag, basta ang alam sana bumagsak para may kita sila!!

4. Since i passed their test, what is my assurance, that they won’t flag me down again.

[thejerk]

Need to revive this...
It happened to me too, around 1:45pm, yesterday under Guadalupe/Edsa bridge. I was driving our Nissan Urvan, a 2004 model, just a side note, this is a very well maintained private family van. Change oil every 5k, fuel filter ( primary & secondary) every 50k, air filter changed every 20K, total mileage is 145k only, and that's for almost 11years, well you get the point.

Anyways, Bigla ako flag down by one of these ASBU guys. I rolled down my window and said "ano po yon?" the guy said "sa smoke belching po" I kinda got irritated and looked at my LTO 2013 sticker. I told the ASBU guy "eh kaka-inspection lang nito nung January sa LTO Emissions. My family maintains our vehicles properly, if there is something wrong with our vehicles - we fix it.

I quickly told him "maayos itong sasakyan, wala kayo mahuhuli dito", but he insisted that i hand over my registration papers and license. I told him jokingly “dapat may makita kayong problema dito sa van kase nakaka-abala kayo.”

There were two more vehicles before my turn, man, hassle, paparahin ka without any justifiable cause (is that legal by the way?). Di naman umuusok muffler ko ng maitim na usok. Then came my turn, guess what? Wala!!! I passed their test!!!

Twelve (12) minutes for nothing!!! I told them “Sinabi ko na sa inyo na ayos yan, inabala nyo lang ako” Yung ginawa nila is a f#%#&^* waste of my time!!

Eto pa, the guy who made the inspection just smirked at me, wala man lang sinabing “pasensia na sa abala” , and that really ticked me off! when the guy returned my registration papers, i asked him “ano pa bisa ng LTO emissions if kung di rin pala applicable sa inyo?

He replied “LTO CORRUPT, NABABAYARAN EMISSIONS” I just shook my head again, is he implying that the reason why he flagged me down and did a test was because i corrupted my LTO emmisions inspections? - These people are arrogant mindless fools. I am a hard working, tax paying citizen, oh yes, i pay taxes in Makati too, tapos eto. Mga PERWISYO KAYO MAKATI ASBU!!! BTW, i got there names: M. Quinagutan, and J.M. Cristino or Crispino

Things that come into mind:
1. Flagging you down for no obvious reason. (Chamba-chamba baka makadali ng lagay)

2. Since they do not recognize LTO’s emmissions inspections to be credible, then what is the law of the land regarding emmisions? who has the final say?

3. ASBU’s way of approaching, flagging down, apprehending the suspected vehicles is wrong. Arrogante!! they should be properly trained in explaining to the people why they are flagged down? Sa akin, wala, nagpakilala lang na smoke belching, tapos hingi kagad ng registration papers. Walang, “Sorry for the inconvenience po, (atleast to appease) smoke belching campaign, para lang po ma check if ok parin ang ating exhaust / engine emmisions., para namin din po sa kalusugan ng lahat.
Hindi eh, hingi kagad ng papeles, wala paliwanag, basta ang alam sana bumagsak para may kita sila!!

4. Since i passed their test, what is my assurance, that they won’t flag me down again.

nakakahighblood talaga!

[jodski]

4. Since i passed their test, what is my assurance, that they won’t flag me down again.

Sad to say pero "wala" ... Wala rin naman ata binigay na clearance certificate of some sort?

[coiter]

There were two more vehicles before my turn, man, hassle, paparahin ka without any justifiable cause (is that legal by the way?). Di naman umuusok muffler ko ng maitim na usok. Then came my turn, guess what? Wala!!! I passed their test!!!

parang 1st time i've read or heard that somebody actually passed the test. congrats! hehehe

[v2g]

parang 1st time i've read or heard that somebody actually passed the test. congrats! hehehe

Hehehe, I don't know if natakot sila sakin, i'm a really big guy, LOL! But seriously, dapat ma-question yung ginagawa nila, i am for clean air, but what they are doing is not effective, kase nalalagyan din, Marami pa rin ako nakikita na smoke belchers, mainly buses or PUV's and how do we know if their equipment is in good condition or tampered? Kawawa naman mga ibang tao.

I qoute: "Wonder why wala pa rin nag question ng constitutionality ng procedures ng mga ASBU na yan before the courts. I believe pwede to ma question for violation of rights against unreasonable search and seizures, same rights limiting check points. Parang "fishing expedition" na kasi ginagawa nila. Dapat may probable cause man lang para parahin and much more kung papababain sa sasakyan, di pwede yung dahil sa diesel lang yung sasakyan kasi it does not follow na smoke belcher na." -Sir Flip from Re: ASBU smoke belching test Post #74

[R.Paul]

Meron na naman kanina sa c5 pasig. Pati pala Innova pinapara na nila

Sent from my GT-I9082

[madduck]

yeah, pinara din ako kanina jan sa c5 to pasig. hindi ko pinansin. sinubukan nila tumakbo pero hindi ako tumigil. paglapas ng kalayaan, pasig na ba? hindi na nila yan jurisdiction diba.

[gearspeed]

Kaya pala ayaw ng kapitbahay ko ng diesel dahil sa smoke belching test na nakikita niya sa daan.

[vinj]

Saturday morning, meron at EDSA after Ayala (northbound). Taena mga bwiset. Di nga pinapansin ng ibang pinapara.

[mateomarco]

yeah, pinara din ako kanina jan sa c5 to pasig. hindi ko pinansin. sinubukan nila tumakbo pero hindi ako tumigil. paglapas ng kalayaan, pasig na ba? hindi na nila yan jurisdiction diba.

Same thing i do...pag natsatsambahan ko yang mga yan sa C5 at kalayaan at nagkataong maluwag, hindi ako humihinto...humabol sila kung gusto nila... Usually before i go home, check ko muna sa MMDA interaksyon kung may operation sa c5 or kalayaan para at least makaiwas sa abala...

[K.I.L.L.]

Since last week, I have been trying to look for something that would define their implementing rules and regulations on apprehension, testing and other procedures. Unfortunately, these guys make it really hard to find anything and expect us all to know about such matters. Is anyone here familiar with it or has a link to it?

[MAXBUWAYA]

lakas pa magyosi nyang mga yan habang nanghuhuli.

[Retz]

Meron na naman kanina sa c5 pasig. Pati pala Innova pinapara na nila

Sent from my GT-I9082

Pati innova sir? Grabe na to.

[cokezero]

pati nga strada pinapara na e )

[ronki]

Last week nasa EDSA-AYALA sila, puro mga bus pinara, kawawa yung mga pasahero...

[cardict]

Last week nasa EDSA-AYALA sila, puro mga bus pinara, kawawa yung mga pasahero...

Siguro may naligaw na miyembro ng ASBUwaya na nakabasa dito sa forum,(mga dre pinaguusapan na tayo sa tsikot forum,mag PUV muna tayo)

[leodawesome]

Kanina din puro bus naman nakapila sa kanila.