Another bus falls off the Skyway

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Mahina ang railing ng Skyway ah

[_Cathy_]

It really makes me wonder if something really is wrong with the design or sturdiness of the railings at Skyway.

[cocoy]

the railing is not weak.. its the design of the railings.. if you take a good look at the railings, it seems high enough to prevent vehicles from falling over. unfortunately there's that cement curb sticking out from the bottom of the railing serving as the base of the railing.. i think once the tire hits that part it lifts the vehicle high enough that with enough momentum a car or a bus can actually be thrown over the railings. can someone else explain in easier terms what im trying to say.. if anyone understood what im trying to say.. heheh

[niky]

Basically, the proper design for the bottom of the curb at the railing is a slope angled up to catch the vehicle and redirect it back onto the road. Dunno why they don't do that since: a.) there is no sidewalk, anyway, and b.) they already have the forms to copy, in the portable barriers they use:



Alternative would be a low-profile barrier like so:



The idea is not to catch the bus or truck, but to push it back by redirecting the force of impact. If you have a vertical surface to catch the vehicle, it will simply accept the brunt of the impact and collapse if the vehicle is heavy enough.

As you can see... the Skyway has very square kerbs.


The upgraded portions of the SLEX now use properly designed barriers for the median in some areas:




Woe to you if you should fall off the shoulder, though...

[vinj]

Basically, the proper design for the bottom of the curb at the railing is a slope angled up to catch the vehicle and redirect it back onto the road. Dunno why they don't do that since: a.) there is no sidewalk, anyway, and b.) they already have the forms to copy, in the portable barriers they use:

I've tested these barriers already (on the Buendia - Kalayaan/Fort ramp). A stoned driver cut into me (yes, he hit me on my side door already) and i nudged the barrier. My tires went up and down the angled portion. There was no severe damage save for the dent caused by the stoner. PDR and wheel alignment fixed all.

[falken]

Here's the video of that incident, it seems like the driver of the Fortuner was drunk or fell asleep behind the wheel.


http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/video/nat...r-falls-skyway

[ano727]

Why does it seem to be that the identity of the driver of the Fortuner is witheld? While the name of the coaster is mentioned.

When I look at the video, to me, it appears the Fortuner swerved, bumped into, and caused the coaster to lose control and fall off the skyway.

[Manilablock]

Nabibili media sa atin, ganyan din sa mga malls. Maraming hindi nababalita dahil nag suhol. Tulad noong Ondoy, may mga nalunod sa loob ng mall pero hindi nila ibinalita. Ganyan rin doon sa aksidente sa batang nahulog sa escalator, hindi binabanggit sa TV yung pangalan ng mall.

Sent from the Twilight Zone...

Ang mga media sa atin ay talo pa ang attorney, nakunan na sa cctv ung mga magnanakaw at identified, ibabalita pa din na ang nahuli ay suspect sa pagnanakaw, para bang umaasa na pag pinanood ulit ung cctv e pwede pang maiba ung ending.

[cocoy]

just want to comment, parang OT cguro to.. but i just get annoyed when a mini bus is called a coaster...why cant it just be called a mini bus.. a coaster is a mini bus made by toyota, a mini bus Rosa is mini bus made by Mitsubishi, a county mini gus is made by hyundai. a civilian is a mini bus made by nissan. a combi mini bus is made by Kia. anyways just ranting. heheh.. but i think the MINI BUS that fell off the skyway, is a hyundai county.

[glenn_duke]

Na pit bump yung coaster kaya nag 90 degree diagonal sa barrier. I dont think those barrier are design for that. They are design for low angle side bump.

[jut703]

just want to comment, parang OT cguro to.. but i just get annoyed when a mini bus is called a coaster...why cant it just be called a mini bus.. a coaster is a mini bus made by toyota, a mini bus Rosa is mini bus made by Mitsubishi, a county mini gus is made by hyundai. a civilian is a mini bus made by nissan. a combi mini bus is made by Kia. anyways just ranting. heheh.. but i think the MINI BUS that fell off the skyway, is a hyundai county.

That's the power of marketing and brand recall, and Toyota is second to none in the Philippines when it comes to brand recall.

Just as people say Xerox instead of photocopy, or Pampers instead of diapers, people also say FX instead of AUV and Coaster instead of minibus.

I suggest you just let it go, or you'll end up crazy. Baka sa susunod ikaw na tumalon sa Skyway niyan 😁




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[cocoy]

That's the power of marketing and brand recall, and Toyota is second to none in the Philippines when it comes to brand recall.

Just as people say Xerox instead of photocopy, or Pampers instead of diapers, people also say FX instead of AUV and Coaster instead of minibus.

I suggest you just let it go, or you'll end up crazy. Baka sa susunod ikaw na tumalon sa Skyway niyan ��




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i know its the power of recall. i just think its sad. that in this day and age, people are still ignorant of simple things. now people being ignorant would drive me crazy..

back to the topic.. na tangal ba talaga ang railings?

[shelu]

That's the power of marketing and brand recall, and Toyota is second to none in the Philippines when it comes to brand recall.

Just as people say Xerox instead of photocopy, or Pampers instead of diapers, people also say FX instead of AUV and Coaster instead of minibus.

I suggest you just let it go, or you'll end up crazy. Baka sa susunod ikaw na tumalon sa Skyway niyan 😁




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OT: LOL!!! pinoy tayo. nasanay sa brand names. nong maliit pa ako, inuutusan tayong bumili ng colgate na close-up at bumili ng gasul na shellane. anyway, dapat baguhin ang design ng skyfall. the two accidents should be a wake up call for the operators of the skyfall..

[glenn manikis]

IMO mahina and not properly designed ang railings na ginamit dyan.. it should be higher and sturdier...

sa dami dami ng nalaglag dyan... kitang kita naman na parang walang tibay yan railings na yan...

its not serving it purpose...

[Noel Salisipan]

IMO mahina and not properly designed ang railings na ginamit dyan.. it should be higher and sturdier...

sa dami dami ng nalaglag dyan... kitang kita naman na parang walang tibay yan railings na yan...

its not serving it purpose...

Walang matibay sa higway pag high speed at uncontrolled vehicle ang tatama sa isang bagay.
Ang problema yung discipline nung driver sa pagmamaneho. Posibleng puyat at nakaidlip yung driver nung mga oras na yun.

2x ng nangyari sa akin na napapikit ako habang nagda-drive (long drive), buti na lang at naramdaman ko yung mga bato sa shoulder nung pumapaling na yung gulong. Third time, pag may sign na ng fatique at sleepiness, tabi na sa gilid, ikot sa sasakyan o pahinga muna sa isang safe na lugar.

[lowslowbenz]

The Skyway should be renamed ...... SKYFALL

[Noel Salisipan]

just want to comment, parang OT cguro to.. but i just get annoyed when a mini bus is called a coaster...why cant it just be called a mini bus.. a coaster is a mini bus made by toyota, a mini bus Rosa is mini bus made by Mitsubishi, a county mini gus is made by hyundai. a civilian is a mini bus made by nissan. a combi mini bus is made by Kia. anyways just ranting. heheh.. but i think the MINI BUS that fell off the skyway, is a hyundai county.

Parang "colgate" at "ajax" lang yan.hehehe

Anyway, perpendicular yung tama sa railing kaya tumalon yung minibus.
Kahit anong tibay ng railing pag ganon lang ang design e sisirain talaga lalo na kung bus o truck ang babangga sa ganong speed.

[monkeybone1k]

Is it true that this accident happened exactly at the same area wherein Don Mariano bus fell off? Kung totoo man, nakakakilabot!


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[greatauror28]

Is it true that this accident happened exactly at the same area wherein Don Mariano bus fell off? Kung totoo man, nakakakilabot!


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If this is indeed true, then it is apparently a coincidence.

But you cannot avoid that some believers will claim this as some sort of misfortune brought by some paranormal being.

[chris_d]

Is it true that this accident happened exactly at the same area wherein Don Mariano bus fell off? Kung totoo man, nakakakilabot!


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Different areas, this was near Sun Valley before Bicutan exit, the Don Mariano accident was another 3 kms south.