Car Thieves Now Force You to Sign Deed of Sale!

[chua_riwap]

Tumitindi MO ng mga carnappers.........



http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquire...n-deed-of-sale
PDI/May 8, 2009

Car theft victims forced to sign deed of sale

MANILA, Philippines – Here’s a new modus operandi by car thieves.

Police yesterday said car robbers, after forcibly taking the vehicles from their victims, would ask the victims to sign a blank paper which were then made into a “deed of sale,” which they could use to sell legally the stolen vehicles.

Inspector Enrico Figueroa, head of the theft and robbery section of the Quezon City Police District, said they discovered the new modus operandi by car robbers after a suspected carjacker was arrested on Tuesday.

“The car robbers asked the victim to sign a blank paper which will be made into a deed of sale because it would be easier for the robbers to sell the car without the buyer suspecting it’s stolen,” Figueroa said.

Figueroa identified the arrested suspect as Arnold Maneja, 41, of Quezon City.

The police official said Maneja was arrested in the parking area of a popular mall after he was positively identified by Cazzle Magistrado as one of the four armed men who took her gray Sportivo van at gunpoint on March 28.

Magistrado, in her statement to the police, recounted that she, her two sons, and a female friend were about to board their vehicle when the suspects appeared.

She said that she, her sons, and her friend were forced to board a green Starex (WJH-156) while her Sportivo was driven by the suspects.

While aboard the Starex, Magistrado said she was forced to sign blank papers before she and her companions were dropped off in Malolos, Bulacan.

Figueroa said the victim alerted the police when she saw Maneja at the mall parking lot.

Maneja was armed with a .45 caliber pistol when he was arrested, police also told reporters.

[nurse_corrupted]

Kelangan talaga doble ingat. At kelangan lalo na rumoronda ang mga pulis. Police presence can defer crimes.

[Monseratto]

Unless the buyer doesn't check in Crame if the car is cleared...

[renzo_d10]

Grabe na mga carnappers ngayon

Kaya ingat dapat tayong lahat..........

And, check lahat ng papers kung bibili ng 2nd hand na kotse....delikado na, baka carnap pa yan

[oliver1013]

Grabe mga carjackers, gusto na maging legal

[chua_riwap]

Di laging may dalang mga blank bond papers ang mga yan, A4 size.......

[renzo_d10]

Grabe mga carjackers, gusto na maging legal

Aba aba, syempre naman.....para maging official sila...........

official carjackers

[renzo_d10]

May dala rin kaya silang pen?


Dapat sign pen yan ah......pilot

[oliver1013]

meron na silang dalawa sa essential elements ng sale...determine subject matter(yung auto), meeting of minds (altho sapilitan pero may deed of sale na so pwede na rin), except price ceratin in money or its equivalent..

[mey0r]

may butas pa rin kahit ibenta ng carnapper kasi, yug original OR/CR nasa owner pa rin. parang lumalabas na mas advantage tuloy yung encumberred pa na CR kasi may proof ka pa na yun pa rin original and hindi pa na pa cancel ng original owner yung mortgage.

[rhuwrx]

Paano po pag iniba ng victim yung pirma niya, as in ang layo ng itsutra dun sa original niya na signature?

[kevin3000]

yup tip lang wag ilalagay ung right sig. para madetect pa yung auto dba?!

[migs0624]

hala naku bat ganyan

[boybi]

Paano po pag iniba ng victim yung pirma niya, as in ang layo ng itsutra dun sa original niya na signature?

Hihingian siguro ng ID yung owner para ma-verify nila yung signature

[khazpert]

hmm kakatakot! ano kaya dapat nating gawin para mas safe tayong lahat?

[batang_raon14]

Question lang: won't the deed of sale be deemed voidable in this case? Given that the nature of the signing is on the basis that the obligee was coerced?

So kung ibinenta nga ng mga loko yung sasakyan, at nakita ng PNP for sale at inapproach yung nagbebenta, sabay sasabihin may DEED OF SALE ika nga, edi parang nagpahuli na rin ang loko? Tama ba?

[Monseratto]

Also the owner's signature on the original CR must be the same on the deed of sale. Parang the deed of sale Modus Operandi is very questionable...

[falken]

hmm kakatakot! ano kaya dapat nating gawin para mas safe tayong lahat?

I-salvage lahat ng carnappers. Huwag makialam ang CHR.

[ab_initio]

Question lang: won't the deed of sale be deemed voidable in this case? Given that the nature of the signing is on the basis that the obligee was coerced?

So kung ibinenta nga ng mga loko yung sasakyan, at nakita ng PNP for sale at inapproach yung nagbebenta, sabay sasabihin may DEED OF SALE ika nga, edi parang nagpahuli na rin ang loko? Tama ba?

it's not voidable even...it is void ab initio (void from the beginning). voidable contracts are those that are otherwise valid but due to some formal defects or non fulfillment of obligation, the contract may be voided; in this thread, the essential element of consent is wanting at the inception. lacking such element of consent there's no contract of sale, as sale is a consensual contract. when there's coercion and the car is taken by intimidation, kahit isang metro lang tinakbo niyan, carnapping na yan in contemplation of law.

[ab_initio]

Question lang: won't the deed of sale be deemed voidable in this case? Given that the nature of the signing is on the basis that the obligee was coerced?

So kung ibinenta nga ng mga loko yung sasakyan, at nakita ng PNP for sale at inapproach yung nagbebenta, sabay sasabihin may DEED OF SALE ika nga, edi parang nagpahuli na rin ang loko? Tama ba?

it's not voidable even...it is void ab initio (void from the beginning). voidable contracts are those that are otherwise valid but due to some formal defects or non fulfillment of obligation, the contract may be voided; in this thread, the essential element of consent is wanting at the inception. lacking such element of consent there's no contract of sale, as sale is a consensual contract. when there's coercion and the car is taken by intimidation, kahit isang metro lang tinakbo niyan, carnapping na yan in contemplation of law.