Land Cruiser AHA-3458 Road Rage Identified

[BratPAQ]

poker player pala, baka galing sa pagkatalo kaya mainit ulo.

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[CVT]

poker player pala, baka galing sa pagkatalo kaya mainit ulo.

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Sumuko na ba ang mokong na ito?

Pasukuin na at baka maligaw pa rito sa Bicutan, [at itumba lahat ng makukulit na nakamotor dito].....

Grabe talaga ang sitwasyon ng mga kalsada natin....

At nakakatakot ang mga engkwentro sa kapwa natin motorista mapa kotse(4-wheel) man o motor(2-wheel)....


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"The measure of a man is what he does with power" LJIOHF!

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[dr. d]

if we only left the guns at home...

[crazy_boy]

from the news clip, mukhang taga Grace Village yung suspect. I remember seeing a house there with several new and old nice land cruisers. I wonder if sa kanya yun

[lowslowbenz]

Let this be a lesson to all of us.

Kung may baril ka, keep your cool. Or better yet, leave it at home. Kung bad-trip ka for some reason, blow off steam muna bago mag-drive.

Kayo naman na naka motor, wag masyadong "gung-ho" yung attitude sa kalsada, singit dito, singit dun, pag naka-disgrasya puro pasencia ang bukang bibig nyo. Or tinatakbuhan nyo pa!

Karmic circle yan eh. At some point in time, both these guys did something that was not appropriate on separate occasions. Now, nagkataon, nagkatagpo .... Nagkita ang mag-katapat.

Yan tuloy.

[CVT]

Let this be a lesson to all of us.

Kung may baril ka, keep your cool. Or better yet, leave it at home. Kung bad-trip ka for some reason, blow off steam muna bago mag-drive.

Kayo naman na naka motor, wag masyadong "gung-ho" yung attitude sa kalsada, singit dito, singit dun, pag naka-disgrasya puro pasencia ang bukang bibig nyo. Or tinatakbuhan nyo pa!

Karmic circle yan eh. At some point in time, both these guys did something that was not appropriate on separate occasions. Now, nagkataon, nagkatagpo .... Nagkita ang mag-katapat.

Yan tuloy.

I hope that the government acts on the worsening traffic condition in Metro Manila.

They should make rules [we should have plenty of these] and implement them and define the rules of engagements between motorcyles and four-wheelers...

Nagbaba raw ng bintana ang driver ng LC, at naka-murahan, according sa isang news item...

Kaya nga kabilin-bilinan ko sa mga nag-da-drive ng oto,- huwag na huwag magbaba ng bintana... Magmura ka na sa loob kung gusto mo,- pero huwag mong ibaba ang bintana mo,- dahil naghahamon ka na ng away.... At ito nga, sadly nagkapatayan pa....

Baril? - dapat sa bahay lang iyan....

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[benchph1]

Kaya ako kapag may kups sa kalsada. Lalo na wala naman nangyari hinahayaan ko na lang. mahirap na at baka makatapat ang katulad nito na may baril.


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[_Cathy_]

Kaya ako kapag may kups sa kalsada. Lalo na wala naman nangyari hinahayaan ko na lang. mahirap na at baka makatapat ang katulad nito na may baril.


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Same here. Too many crazy people with guns nowadays.

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[Juan Martinez]

claudio teehankee jr, rolito go, antonio sanchez, and paco larrañaga were rich and influential too, but they were all convicted.

if the private complainant would settle it, that definitely would be a problem, for what could the court and prosecution do?

re: death penalty. there is only one issue there-- whether it will serve as a deterrent or not, not because it is against one religion's dogma or one's belief.

[BratPAQ]

claudio teehankee jr, rolito go, antonio sanchez, and paco larrañaga were rich and influential too, but they were all convicted.

if the private complainant would settle it, that definitely would be a problem, for what could the court and prosecution do?

re: death penalty. there is only one issue there-- whether it will serve as a deterrent or not, not because it is against one religion's dogma or one's belief.

uubra ba ganyan? settlement? Pano pag galit ako sa kamag anak ko. pinabaril ko, then kunwari demanda ko yung inutusan ko and he will pretend na babayaran na lang ako. lusot na?

although I heard a news once, nasagasaan at namatay, then nag settle, walang kaso.

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[MR_BIG18]

uubra ba ganyan? settlement? Pano pag galit ako sa kamag anak ko. pinabaril ko, then kunwari demanda ko yung inutusan ko and he will pretend na babayaran na lang ako. lusot na?

although I heard a news once, nasagasaan at namatay, then nag settle, walang kaso.

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i think murder and homicide are different kuya, walang settlement ang murder, its people vs juan dela cruz...unlike homicide example a vehicular accdent, its different...

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[Juan Martinez]

uubra ba ganyan? settlement?

although I heard a news once, nasagasaan at namatay, then nag settle, walang kaso.

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very good question.

I.
every person criminally liable is also civilly liable.

the criminal liability of the killer pertains to his having violated our laws on homicide or murder, which must be prosecuted by the state or the people of the philippines. on the other hand, his civil liability arises from the delict he has done to the family of the victim which he must personally pay in terms of actual and moral damages.

generally, his criminal liability cannot be compromised or settled because crime is an outrage against the people of the philippines and the private complainant/s (family of the victim) are relegated merely as witnesses for the state.

however, the killer's civil liability can be settled or compromised because this is personal and the state does not have a stake in it. usually, the compromise or settlement is given effect through the execution by the private complainant of an affidavit of desistance.

In other words, only the civil aspect of the case can be settled, and not the criminal aspect.

but here is the problem: if the private complainant had already desisted and would no longer interested to pursue the case or testify against the murderer because he had been paid already, the obligation to go after the latter rests solely now on the shoulders of the prosecution. under our rules, the prosecution is duty- bound to prove the guilt of the accused beyond reasonable doubt because of the constitutional presumption of innocence. now, the prosecution could not possibly discharge this duty if it no longer had witnesses to present during trial. ultimately, and in the last analysis, accused is acquitted not because he didn't commit the crime but the presumption of innocence in his favor wasn't overturned by the prosecution with proof beyond reasonable doubt.

II.

with respect to "nasagasaan at namatay," this is actually reckless impudence resulting to homicide punishable under article 365 of the revised penal code. under the rules on evidence, this case can be settled. in fact, this is encouraged to be settled.

III.

Pano pag galit ako sa kamag anak ko. pinabaril ko, then kunwari demanda ko yung inutusan ko and he will pretend na babayaran na lang ako. lusot na?

it is possible. but if i were the investigator investigating your case or the prosecutor prosecuting you, i would do my damnedest to send you to jail for the crime of murder. you for principal by inducement and the actual killer for principal by direct participation.

[BratPAQ]

very good question.

I.
every person criminally liable is also civilly liable.

the criminal liability of the killer pertains to his having violated our laws on homicide or murder, which must be prosecuted by the state or the people of the philippines. on the other hand, his civil liability arises from the delict he has done to the family of the victim which he must personally pay in terms of actual and moral damages.

generally, his criminal liability cannot be compromised or settled because crime is an outrage against the people of the philippines and the private complainant/s (family of the victim) are relegated merely as witnesses for the state.

however, the killer's civil liability can be settled or compromised because this is personal and the state does not have a stake in it. usually, the compromise or settlement is given effect through the execution by the private complainant of an affidavit of desistance.

In other words, only the civil aspect of the case can be settled, and not the criminal aspect.

but here is the problem: if the private complainant had already desisted and would no longer interested to pursue the case or testify against the murderer because he had been paid already, the obligation to go after the latter rests solely now on the shoulders of the prosecution. under our rules, the prosecution is duty- bound to prove the guilt of the accused beyond reasonable doubt because of the constitutional presumption of innocence. now, the prosecution could not possibly discharge this duty if it no longer had witnesses to present during trial. ultimately, and in the last analysis, accused is acquitted not because he didn't commit the crime but the presumption of innocence in his favor wasn't overturned by the prosecution with proof beyond reasonable doubt.

II.

with respect to "nasagasaan at namatay," this is actually reckless impudence resulting to homicide punishable under article 365 of the revised penal code. under the rules on evidence, this case can be settled. in fact, this is encouraged to be settled.

III.




it is possible. but if i were the investigator investigating your case or the prosecutor prosecuting you, i would do my damnedest to send you to jail for the crime of murder. you for principal by inducement and the actual killer for principal by direct participation.

thanks for the education.

i think murder and homicide are different kuya, walang settlement ang murder, its people vs juan dela cruz...unlike homicide example a vehicular accdent, its different...

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the trick is make it look like a homicide, buy a 100k worth of 2nd hand vehicle, look for a person with no connection with the mastermind, and have him "accidentally" run over the wife of the mastermind that he want to lose. when the authorities catch the driver, the husband will just ask for a fake settlement.

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[jack_husain]

I'm a rider, and I would like to commiserate with the victim's family and his betrothed.

The problem here is not the gun, but the trigger-happy coward who shot that hapless motorist. A traffic altercation, however heated, should not lead to Murder.

Another problem, why he was issued a firearm if he had a murderous tendency. Neuro-pschiatric examination given prior to issuance of license will definitely bring that tendency to the fore, unless the examination given was merely a moro-moro.

Also, why would the PNP-FEO did not come knocking at that coward's door if it is true that the licenses for his .45 cal. STI and .9mm Glock had already expired?

[Vodka]

I'm a rider, and I would like to commiserate with the victim's family and his betrothed.

The problem here is not the gun, but the trigger-happy coward who shot that hapless motorist. A traffic altercation, however heated, should not lead to Murder.

Another problem, why he was issued a firearm if he had a murderous tendency. Neuro-pschiatric examination given prior to issuance of license will definitely bring that tendency to the fore, unless the examination given was merely a moro-moro.

Also, why would the PNP-FEO did not come knocking at that coward's door if it is true that the licenses for his .45 cal. STI and .9mm Glock had already expired?

LOL you've got to be kidding me. neuro-psych tests won't screen a$$holes like this Fredison. anyone w/ half a brain will simply fake the test and pass w/ flying colors

that's the reality folks. no amount of gun laws is going to ever prevent this

[minicarph]

I personally know high stake players like this. may dala sila baril coz malaki dala nila pera.

now, granted that he is an asset as a high stake casino player, chances are he will be freed.

the question is baka nga may riding in tandem angle yun nangyari, or possible he's being tailed. anyone, verified the identities of the 2 brothers?

[jack_husain]

LOL you've got to be kidding me. neuro-psych tests won't screen a$$holes like this Fredison. anyone w/ half a brain will simply fake the test and pass w/ flying colors

that's the reality folks. no amount of gun laws is going to ever prevent this

No, you don't know what you're talking about. Have you taken a complete NPE? A series of written examinations (like MMPI and MCMI) and personal interview that will take at least eight hours?

I did.

So better shut up if you haven't because I'm sure as hell what I'm talking about.

That kind of NPE isn't given by the FED or FESSAGS.

[Vodka]

That kind of NPE isn't given by the FED or FESSAGS.

ngeks alam mo pala na hindi ganun ang NPE ng FED. so don't say that FED's NPE will screen for a$$hats like Frednison

i'm not young anymore. i've been through lots of those tests already. there's such a test by a certain gov't agency. took us the whole day. they'll really try to wear you down. but still easy to fake.

oh BTW i aced the IQ portion the 2nd placer in the IQ failed the psych LOL

so here's my point in case you have figured it out yet. any written-only test i.e. non-polygraph, won't be able to screen for the likes of Frednison so more gun control won't help

[jack_husain]

ngeks alam mo pala na hindi ganun ang NPE ng FED. so don't say that FED's NPE will screen for a$$hats like Frednison

i'm not young anymore. i've been through lots of those tests already. there's such a test by a certain gov't agency. took us the whole day. they'll really try to wear you down. but still easy to fake.

oh BTW i aced the IQ portion the 2nd placer in the IQ failed the psych LOL

so here's my point in case you have figured it out yet. any written-only test i.e. non-polygraph, won't be able to screen for the likes of Frednison so more gun control won't help

Vodka, whatever floats your kumpit. You still don't know what you're talking about. Scram.

[jack_husain]

Who bragged that they could solve the capital's traffic problem in 6 months or 1 year?

Why would I leave my firearm in the house if I have a PTCFOR when I paid Php12,000 for it annually?

But by all means, if you only have a license (not ptcfor), then leave it. How much more if your license is expired.

Criminals (killers for hire, robbers, etc) actually don't leave their firearms at home. So why would leave yours if you have the PTCFOR at home.