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    In light of the recent conflict between volunteer fire fighters (that includes volunteer search/rescue and EMS), nag-verbalize daw si Mayor Binay na bawal na ang volunteer units and manpower sa Makati City. Brigade fire chiefs are still waiting for an official statement but the Mayor's office has been quiet about it. Neither confirming or denying that such statement has been made.

    So for the meantime, volunteer units are not responding to calls within the Makati area. There have been a number of small fires recently. The latest being in Victoria Tower? All volunteer units have remained on 10-12 (standby) instead of responding.

    Makati police are also said to have become less lenient on private vehicles and motorcycles bearing logos/stickers or any signs of affinity to volunteer groups and are being flagged down for a lot of minor violations (some of which don't really seem like violations at all). These include the use of clear plate covers, 'swerving', etc. Seatbelt and helmet use are also being more strictly enforced (at least that's better).

    Our advice to Makati Residents, start storing up your own water for fire fighting. Let's see the BFP tackle anything above 4th alarm on their own. It will probably end up in a general alarm with all the residents having to live in evacuation centers afterwards.

    Again, it is not the intention of your local volunteer fire brigades to be of disservice. Everyone is just being more careful.

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    patay tayo jan, taga makati ako. i hope this mess gets sorted out quick. i have more respect on our firefighters and ems than our cops, especially the volunteer firefighters and ems. sila pa ang may lakas ng loob pag bawalan mga volunteer when they should be thanking them for their services.

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    Bro Otep mali yung ang mag imbak ng tubig. Dapat mag imbak ng pera para hindi masunog ang bahay mo! Kailangan mong bigyan ng suhol yung bombero ng Makati para bombahin yung bahay mo ng tubig kapag may sunog!

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    Ok naman ang fire chief ng Makati. As for his people, eh I'll hold my comments na lang. hehe

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    They don't need your help daw, Otep. Siya na sasalo sa lahat:


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    My take, dapat Huwag madamay yun mga residents ng makati Sa away ng makati police/mayor & fire volunteers...

    Fire volunteers should take the high road, puntahan pa rin nila Kung Meron sunog pero pag hinarang sila ng makati govt then it's not their fault na...

    Sa ginagawa ng volunteers na standby Lang pag Meron sunog sa makati eh pumapangit image niyo sa public...

    This will not get public sympathy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OTEP View Post
    In light of the recent conflict between volunteer fire fighters (that includes volunteer search/rescue and EMS), nag-verbalize daw si Mayor Binay na bawal na ang volunteer units and manpower sa Makati City. Brigade fire chiefs are still waiting for an official statement but the Mayor's office has been quiet about it. Neither confirming or denying that such statement has been made.

    So for the meantime, volunteer units are not responding to calls within the Makati area. There have been a number of small fires recently. The latest being in Victoria Tower? All volunteer units have remained on 10-12 (standby) instead of responding.

    Makati police are also said to have become less lenient on private vehicles and motorcycles bearing logos/stickers or any signs of affinity to volunteer groups and are being flagged down for a lot of minor violations (some of which don't really seem like violations at all). These include the use of clear plate covers, 'swerving', etc. Seatbelt and helmet use are also being more strictly enforced (at least that's better).

    Our advice to Makati Residents, start storing up your own water for fire fighting. Let's see the BFP tackle anything above 4th alarm on their own. It will probably end up in a general alarm with all the residents having to live in evacuation centers afterwards.

    Again, it is not the intention of your local volunteer fire brigades to be of disservice. Everyone is just being more careful.
    this is what I'm talking about. pag nabasa yan ng mga tao, volunteers are very arrogant...at least nilinaw mo na low level alarm lang pero based on this post ang intindi ko LAHAT ng fire whatever levels hinde niyo pupuntahan basta makati..

    which is wrong...

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    Sir wala talagang hose down na sinasabi. Water salute iyon. Iniiba lang ng makati para magmukhang masama. Wala pong law na nagbabawal nun or naglilimit ng paggamit niya.

    And for the record hindi namin kalaban ang mayor. May mga parties lang siguro na nag feed ng maling info sa kanya. Open minded naman kami. We are also considering that aspect. Yep, no one is forcing volunteers. If ayaw na nila everyone can just go back to their day jobs. =) eh wala naman pinagkaiba day job at volunteer job ko. Kung ayaw muna sumugal ng iba, thats their prerogative.

    Yung unit namin na nagbigay ng medical support nung parade sinama din sa listahan ng kakasuhan. Eh andun yun para sa family ng victims lalo na yung mga medyo may edad na.. Kung ayaw nila na nilalahat ang pulis, huwag din nila lahatin ang volunteer.

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    Yes. Actually diplomatic na tao naman ang father ng namatay. After all, di naman magiging malaki business nila kundi sila nakabuo ng rapport sa tao. Kahit ngayon na ongoing pa ang wake, he still takes time to go out para subukan itama kung ano mang mali ang ibinabalita ng media about volunteers by going to the appropriate government agencies.

    Yung sa anak niya mukhang after ng libing na lang nila aasikasuhin.

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    Nag file charges na si Binay jnr., bahala na husgado yung usapan water salute or act of vandalism...

    Makati to file case against fire volunteer-hooligans
    Posted: 2012-Apr-10 | 17.30.06 UTC +0800

    The City of Makati and Makati Philippine National Police will file charges against members of volunteer fire groups who assaulted a police precinct in Makati during the Holy Week.

    Mayor Jejomar Erwin S. Binay condemned the "anarchy" that followed when a group of 100 volunteer fire fighters stormed Makati Police Precinct No. 3 demanding justice for their slain member last April 5, 2012. The group deflated the police station's car, scratched its body with a pointed object and smashed the tail lights, and even trained a water canon at the precinct's glass window.

    "Mananagot ang dapat managot. The city will not tolerate such irresponsible actions from these volunteers. They should be upholding the law, not violating it. We respect their right to express their sentiments, but we will not tolerate destruction of government property and acts of hooliganism," Mayor Binay said.

    "This is not only an assault on a precinct, this is an assault on the city," he said.

    The mayor ordered city police chief P/Superintendent Jaime O. Santos to file necessary charges against those responsible for the assault. The volunteers were onboard 20 firetrucks, 15 motorcycles and private vehicles when they conducted a rally calling for justice to one Ronald Infante who was allegedly slain in an encounter with the elements of PNP Precinct 3.

    The group turned their fire trucks sirens and mounted water canons in front of Makati Central Police Station at about 11 a.m., last Maundy Thursday. Following a dialog with the chief of police, they proceeded to Precinct 3 where they occupied Evangelista and P. Santos streets in Barangay Bangkal shouting invectives at policemen. They also vented their ire on a parked police vehicle before dispersing upon seeing responding policemen. They punctured the tires, scratched the body, broke the tail lights and windshield and pumped water inside the vehicle.

    A police report took note of the names inscribed on the fire trucks which took part in the protest.

    These included the Severino, Tayabas, Batangas Fire Volunteers Association; Alyansa Fire Volunteers; Baclaran Fire Volunteers; Central Tondo Volunteers; Sampaloc Volunteers; Metro Pumper; LPGMA Malabon; West Tondo; Sta. Cruz, Escolta; Brgy. Talipapa; Rusty Lopez Fire Volunteers; Marikina Fil-Chinese; Gotesco; Golden Pumper San Juan; Dapitan Pumper; Dee Hwaleong; Malabon, Potrero and Metro Volunteer.

    - makati.gov.ph — ARA

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    Kami yung Metro Volunteer. =) wala namang water cannon iyon kasi nissan urvan yun saka medic at ako lang ang sakay. Medical escort kami ng pamilya.

    Ok lang if magsampa siya ng kaso. Karapatan niya yun. Kami din ang medical team sa libing.

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    hinde kasali sila eng bee tin?

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    Hindi sir. Wala akong nakitang ube. They have their reasons and no one is compelling them to do things they dont want. Karamihan ng lumabas ay affiliates ng Fire Control 7.

    Dilg secretary has already declared makati city open to all volunteer units. Any harassment made by the makati city government or police shall be reported to them.

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    OT:

    *sir OTEP: ikaw ba yun red urvan nakasalubong ko along araneta ave this afternoon?

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    Officer po namin yun siguro. Si Kevin. One of the youngest emergency medical technicians in the country today. Wala pa yata siya 18 when he finshed at LSTI.

    Alternate kami sa driving duties sir.

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    Kaya ko ikaw yun. I have high respect to all the volunteers. I was supposed to join before but my parents stop me from joining coz its too dangerous daw. With the media exposure with regards to this incident, may movement na rin sa investigation and base on what tv patrol showed awhile ago, looks like the makati police is indeed hiding something coz they were able to erase the contents of the hard disk of the cctv of a hotel but the nbi was able to get hold of a copy before the makati police was able to erase the contents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKI125 View Post
    With the media exposure with regards to this incident, may movement na rin sa investigation and base on what tv patrol showed awhile ago, looks like the makati police is indeed hiding something coz they were able to erase the contents of the hard disk of the cctv of a hotel but the nbi was able to get hold of a copy before the makati police was able to erase the contents.
    that's a good development with the orignal cctv footage available; hope its able to see the light of day and show what really transpired once and for all.

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    The way I see it, okay lang standby kung may possibility kasi ng harassament form Makati PNP.

    Pero sana nga cooler and reasonable heads prevail even if nasa news na kanina that the CCTV of the Makata apartelle that had the shooting caught on record "suddenly" caught a virus after 3 makati PNP personnel watched the video. Buti may file na daw NBI. Sana yun hindi rin "masira".
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    Just sharing:

    Isang katanungan at pananaw para sa Pamahalaang Bayan ng Makati...

    Bilang isang FIRE VOLUNTEER at residente ng Makati hindi po ata katanggap-tanggap ang aming malaman ng BAWAL NA ANG FIRE VOLUNTEER sa Makati..
    Matanong ko lang po gaano ba kagaling ang mga bumbero ng Makati? Ilang dosenang Fire Truck na gumagana ng maayos meron ang Makati? at ilang bumbero na naka-duty sa Makati ang hindi nakainum bago rumesponde? Ilan lang po ito sa mga katanungan na mahirap sagutin.... para ipagbawal ang FIRE VOLUNTEER sa Makati...
    Sa ilang taon ko bilang FIRE VOLUNTEER maraming pagkakataon na din ako nakasama sa responde sa iba't ibang parte ng Makati nakita ko kung paano magtrabaho ang isang FIRE VOLUNTEEER upang makatulong sa pagapula ng sunog at pagliligtas ng mga ari-arian at buhay ng mamayan ng Makati... hindi lang pagod,oras , pera kundi pati buhay ng isang FIRE VOLUNTEER ang nakataya bawat responde!!!!
    Ngunit sa isang insedenteng hanggang sa ngayon ay wala pa rin linaw kung sino ang tunay na maysala kinalimutan na lahat ng hirap at pagod ng isang FIRE VOLUNTEER na ni isang kosing ay hindi naningil sa serbisyong ibinibigay para sa bayan!!!! At ngayon eh kung husgahan at pagsalitaan ng mga taong nagsisilbi kuno para sa bayan eh ganun ganun na lang.... oi magising naman tayo sa katutuhanan buwis din namin ang ginagastos nyo...!!!

    Para naman sa mga mamayan ng Makati na naabala daw nung panahon na naglabas ng hinanaing ang mga pobreng FIRE VOLUNTEER pasensya na po at sa mga nagbabanal-banal dyan ng keso panahon daw yun ng pag-aanuyo bakit hindi nyo sinita yung nag-iinum sa kabilang kanto nyo?!

    Simple lang naman ang hinihiling naming mga FIRE VOLUNTEER ang patas na hustisya para sa namatay naming kasamahan...bawal na din ba itong hilingin? Gaya ng pagbabawal sa mga FIRE VOLUNTEER sa Makati???? nagtatanong lang po....

    Hindi man po natin lubos kakilala ang nasawin naming kasamahan...pero malamang isa sa mga kakilala o kamag-anak nyo ay natulungan din nya o ng kanyang brigada...

    PATAS NA HUSTIYA ANG AMING HILING HINDI PAGBABANTA AT PANLALIIT GALING SA MGA TAONG MINSAN DIN NAMING NAGAWAN NG KABUTIHAN...

    MARAMING SALAMAT ...

    PALANAN 1
    Fire Chief
    PALANAN FIRE AND RESCUE VOLUNTEER INC
    Palanan MAKATI CITY

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    Doc,

    Pano ba maging EMS o Fire Volunteer? Kudos to you guys.
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