Irritating pinoy drivers' Ugali

[Bogeyman]

Weren't you the decent one who flashes your lights on vehicles 'camping' on the left lane?

On the contrary, I specifically said that I am annoyed at people who do so, especially at intersections, and I suggested a slight blip of the horn as an alternative to flashing. So much for attention to detail...

I've presented proof of my side, and others are in agreement. You have yet to show yours, other than your confidence at having gotten away with something clearly illegal. I'll just see you on the road, then -- or maybe not.

[Radical!]

Ahhh...this thread sure is getting my juices flowing, not to mention my english and typing skills...thank you bogeyman!

I've presented proof of my side, and others are in agreement.

If your genius skills in writing and campaigning among members is your game, bring it on... but please do your research and show me a law that says it is illegal to overtake on ther right. I will admire your journalistic skills even more. I may not have friends who will back me up, but I have the facts and all the basis and probably enough experience to reply to you.

You have yet to show yours, other than your confidence at having gotten away with something clearly illegal.

Your wikipedia quote defined where the passing lane is...please show me where it says it is illegal to overtake on the right. That's the best proof you can show everyone reading this thread...who are probably eating popcorn by now...

[OTEP]

Passing a stopped vehicle or one that has showed intention to stop or turn is different from overtaking (wherein both parties have no intention to stop, turn, pee, or do anything else).

In one of the scenarios posted, other party (the one turning or stoppoing) has already signalled his intention so that other motorists may safely pass on the free side as long as it is done with caution (this is no longer considered overtaking).

I'm no lawyer here. I just asked the NLEX guys about the passing on the right deal. And expressway scenarios are different from urban scenarios. I have more than once been caught off-guard by some moron who decided to pass on my right even though I have left the passing lane open. This passing on the right thing is also what got boybi's SiR wrecked a few years ago (he wasn't the one passing).

Not passing on the right is also part of proper driving etiquette. Or global rules of road courtesy as it is more popularly known. However, the Philippines does not seem to belong to this planet based on how few people actually understand these global rules.

If for anything, just don't pass on the right while on the expressway because it's dangerous. Ang hirap kasi minsan, porke't hindi nakasulat, ibig sabihin ok na. Maybe I'll probably pick my nose the next time I eat in a fancy restaurant. Wala din namang sign saying bawal, eh.

Let's not get too hot. We are just here to exchange information and benefit from each other's inputs.

[Bogeyman]

Ahhh...this thread sure is getting my juices flowing, not to mention my english and typing skills...thank you bogeyman!

Eh? Too much credit there. You could just as easily have managed without me; I should be thanking you. Happy to oblige, though. :D

If your genius skills in writing and campaigning among members is your game, bring it on...

No such thing; I may be doing it for a living, but it doesn't make me a genius by any stretch. As for campaigning among members, you could probably make more friends here than I can. And I'm not saying that as a bad thing.

...I have the facts and all the basis and probably enough experience to reply to you...please show me where it says it is illegal to overtake on the right.

*sigh* For the nth time, just because the law does not explicitly prohibit it, doesn't mean it's allowable or even proper. It also doesn't mean that nobody is pissed off when you do it anyway, no matter how 'courteously' you claim to do it.

[mrpink]

i'm not that irritated if people pass by me at the right if free flowing yung traffic .. what is more irritating (for me) are cars passing the shoulder (and counterflowing) in stopped traffick tapos sisingit nalang ..

[fireblade]

This thread is really very informative. I like the friendly exchange of ideas and information and the maturity that some members have shown. Not all though A friendly post becomes "hot" when some bit of sarcasm starts to stir up the otherwise friendly mood. Hats off to both Bogeyman and Radical who are both definitely cool

Ano, you want me to draw my Glock? Haven't you seen my picture in the other thread? Nah, just trying to chill you out

[lakay]

This laws doesn't apply in the Philippines but, Here's what we use here in Washington State. (RCW - Revised Code of Washington)

RCW 46.61.100
Keep right except when passing,
(1) Upon all roadways of sufficient width a vehicle shall be driven upon the right half of the roadway, except as follows:

(a) When overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction under the rules governing such movement.

(2) Upon all roadways having two or more lanes for traffic moving in the same direction, all vehicles shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic, except (a) when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction, (b) when traveling at a speed greater than the traffic flow, (c) when moving left to allow traffic to merge, or (d) when preparing for a left turn at an intersection.
(3) This article is for trailer trucks (I think it doesn't concern us)
(4) It is a traffic infraction to drive continuously in the left lane of a multilane roadway when it impedes the flow of other traffic.

Here is the amendments for that rules:
Legislative intent -- 1986 c 93: "It is the intent of the legislature, in this 1985 [1986] amendment of RCW 46.61.100, that the left-hand lane on any state highway with two or more lanes in the same direction be used primarily as a passing lane." [1986 c 93 § 1.]

RCW 46.61.110
Overtaking on the left.

The following rules shall govern the overtaking and passing of vehicles proceeding in the same direction, subject to those limitations, exceptions and special rules hereinafter stated:

(1) The driver of a vehicle overtaking other traffic proceeding in the same direction shall pass to the left thereof at a safe distance and shall not again drive to the right side of the roadway until safely clear of the overtaken traffic.

(2) The driver of a vehicle approaching a pedestrian or bicycle that is on the roadway or on the right-hand shoulder or bicycle lane of the roadway shall pass to the left at a safe distance to clearly avoid coming into contact with the pedestrian or bicyclist, and shall not again drive to the right side of the roadway until safely clear of the overtaken pedestrian or bicyclist.

(3) Except when overtaking and passing on the right is permitted, overtaken traffic shall give way to the right in favor of an overtaking vehicle on audible signal and shall not increase speed until completely passed by the overtaking vehicle.

RCW 46.61.115
When overtaking on the right is permitted.

(1) The driver of a vehicle may overtake and pass upon the right of another vehicle only under the following conditions:

(a) When the vehicle overtaken is making or about to make a left turn;

(b) Upon a roadway with unobstructed pavement of sufficient width for two or more lines of vehicles moving lawfully in the direction being traveled by the overtaking vehicle.

(2) The driver of a vehicle may overtake and pass another vehicle upon the right only under conditions permitting such movement in safety. Such movement shall not be made by driving off the roadway (bangketa)

[empy]

^we have the same law in Florida, and in California, where i used to live. i'm no expert on philippine law so :speechles lang ako

[Karding]

thanks to the QUOTE+ feature :2thumbsup: sa new site!

[lolo pepe]

buti pa sa ibang bansa me driving rules and regulations...kelan kaya tayo magkakaroon nito para hindi tayo nag aargue kung sino ang tama? kung me guide sana tayo na pinag aralan bago tayo nakakuha ng driver's license eh di ayos...yan ang problema dahil nga sa wala...we are all entitled to our own opinions...kaya pag dating sa actual driving na...kanya kanya na rin ng diskarte kaya malapit sa aksidente...

magising sana mga politicos natin...it's about time na me mag initiate ng rules of the road na applicable sa drivers and pedestrians alike...hindi lang yung pag alam mo lang basahin ang mga traffic signs...me license ka na. kung me rules of the road, pwede na ring pag-aralan ito sa mga schools, ituro ng tatay sa mga anak, etc. at least maagang matuturuan ang next generation...siguro kung magiging ganito at well educated ang pinoy drivers...ang sarap magmaneho sa pinas...pero sa ngayon...hoy gumising ka lolo pepe at nananaginip ka lang!!!

[Karding]

buti pa sa ibang bansa me driving rules and regulations...kelan kaya tayo magkakaroon nito para hindi tayo nag aargue kung sino ang tama? kung me guide sana tayo na pinag aralan bago tayo nakakuha ng driver's license eh di ayos...yan ang problema dahil nga sa wala...we are all entitled to our own opinions...kaya pag dating sa actual driving na...kanya kanya na rin ng diskarte kaya malapit sa aksidente...

magising sana mga politicos natin...it's about time na me mag initiate ng rules of the road na applicable sa drivers and pedestrians alike...hindi lang yung pag alam mo lang basahin ang mga traffic signs...me license ka na. kung me rules of the road, pwede na ring pag-aralan ito sa mga schools, ituro ng tatay sa mga anak, etc. at least maagang matuturuan ang next generation...siguro kung magiging ganito at well educated ang pinoy drivers...ang sarap magmaneho sa pinas...pero sa ngayon...hoy gumising ka lolo pepe at nananaginip ka lang!!!

hinanap ko sa LTO.ph ang driver's handbook, wala. Hindi ko din mahanap ang actual vehicle law regarding the use of motor vehicles.

[lolo pepe]

hinanap ko sa LTO.ph ang driver's handbook, wala. Hindi ko din mahanap ang actual vehicle law regarding the use of motor vehicles.

sana nga merong handbook o local vehicle law...pero kung wala talaga ay sana nga me mag initiate nito...we need a law about road courtesy & etiquette, defensive driving, rules for passing (left and right lanes), rules for 2 lane or more & more than 2 lanes, rules regarding pedestrians, rules about drunk driving, what to do if you see an incoming ambulance or emergency vehicles, etc. etc. and the list can go on...if we have this law published in a book which in turn can be taught in driving schools, in the homes and better yet in high school or college...this is better than learning our driving habits from experience. i agree that experience is the best teacher but sometimes due to unfortunate accidents - that experience might be the last.

[doriftospeed]

kasi sa Philippines, Traffic laws are not meant to be followed, they are only there to guide you. hehehe.

Sayang nga, kailangan lang naman aside from kung may "rules of the road" book tayo, kailangan lang talaga ma impliment and rules eh. kasi naman pinoy basta makalusot minsan uulit ulitin na hanggang hindi na nasusundan ang batas. hehehe.

[Radical!]

This laws doesn't apply in the Philippines but, Here's what we use here in Washington State. (RCW - Revised Code of Washington)

RCW 46.61.100
Keep right except when passing,
(1) Upon all roadways of sufficient width a vehicle shall be driven upon the right half of the roadway, except as follows:

(a) When overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction under the rules governing such movement.

(2) Upon all roadways having two or more lanes for traffic moving in the same direction, all vehicles shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic, except (a) when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction, (b) when traveling at a speed greater than the traffic flow, (c) when moving left to allow traffic to merge, or (d) when preparing for a left turn at an intersection.
(3) This article is for trailer trucks (I think it doesn't concern us)
(4) It is a traffic infraction to drive continuously in the left lane of a multilane roadway when it impedes the flow of other traffic.

Here is the amendments for that rules:
Legislative intent -- 1986 c 93: "It is the intent of the legislature, in this 1985 [1986] amendment of RCW 46.61.100, that the left-hand lane on any state highway with two or more lanes in the same direction be used primarily as a passing lane." [1986 c 93 § 1.]

RCW 46.61.110
Overtaking on the left.

The following rules shall govern the overtaking and passing of vehicles proceeding in the same direction, subject to those limitations, exceptions and special rules hereinafter stated:

(1) The driver of a vehicle overtaking other traffic proceeding in the same direction shall pass to the left thereof at a safe distance and shall not again drive to the right side of the roadway until safely clear of the overtaken traffic.

(2) The driver of a vehicle approaching a pedestrian or bicycle that is on the roadway or on the right-hand shoulder or bicycle lane of the roadway shall pass to the left at a safe distance to clearly avoid coming into contact with the pedestrian or bicyclist, and shall not again drive to the right side of the roadway until safely clear of the overtaken pedestrian or bicyclist.

(3) Except when overtaking and passing on the right is permitted, overtaken traffic shall give way to the right in favor of an overtaking vehicle on audible signal and shall not increase speed until completely passed by the overtaking vehicle.

RCW 46.61.115
When overtaking on the right is permitted.

(1) The driver of a vehicle may overtake and pass upon the right of another vehicle only under the following conditions:

(a) When the vehicle overtaken is making or about to make a left turn;

(b) Upon a roadway with unobstructed pavement of sufficient width for two or more lines of vehicles moving lawfully in the direction being traveled by the overtaking vehicle.

(2) The driver of a vehicle may overtake and pass another vehicle upon the right only under conditions permitting such movement in safety. Such movement shall not be made by driving off the roadway (bangketa)

I rest...thank you so much lakay!

[muffer]

IMO; Como sentido lang mga bro, kaya nga PASSING LANE tawag don, para sa mga vehicles na 100kph na ang takbo, so mga engot lang na driver ang nangi-ngitlog sa passing lane, na ang takbo ay below 80kph

Ang pinoy drivers, two kinds lang talaga isang MARUNONG, nag iisip at isang MAGALING na puro yabang sa kalye.

So, may pinag-aralan ka man o wala, kung NAG-IISIP ka using your coconut , isa kang tunay na anak ng Diyos na ginawa nyang TAO na may ISIP at may RESPETO sa kapwa TAO.

I know someone na Sobrang Galing humimas ng manubela, ayun, Rehas na ang hinihimas nya ngayon.

[ts1n1ta]

I hate it when drivers block intersections pag traffic.

[CVT]

Mas nakakainis yung pag naka stop ka waiting for red left signal light to turn green nasa likod mo flash ng flash ng headlights nya, sort of FORCING you to turn left! Porke walang dumadaan na sasakyan pipilitin ka mag violate ng rule!

Ako ganyan din halos, pero sa may intersection ng Macapagal Ave., na may sign na "no right turn on red.." Red light,- and behind me was a car,- flashing his headlight and honking his horn as I wasn't turning right. So I forwarded the car to my left, giving the car behind me just enough space to turn right.

Ayun, pag right turn namin a few seconds later,- almusal na siya ng Kapulisan.... hehehe.

[chain]

Irritating Pinoy Driver's ugali?
1. turning on their Hazard lights habang umuulan. (not all of course..)
2. Passing sa Shoulder Lane.
3. Swerving (ni walang signal lights man lang...)
4. texting while driving (guilty ako from time to time *sigh*)

will post more after driving..

[Bogeyman]

RCW 46.61.115
When overtaking on the right is permitted.

(1) The driver of a vehicle may overtake and pass upon the right of another vehicle only under the following conditions:

(a) When the vehicle overtaken is making or about to make a left turn;

(b) Upon a roadway with unobstructed pavement of sufficient width for two or more lines of vehicles moving lawfully in the direction being traveled by the overtaking vehicle.

(2) The driver of a vehicle may overtake and pass another vehicle upon the right only under conditions permitting such movement in safety. Such movement shall not be made by driving off the roadway (bangketa)

He did say that this doesn't apply here, but anyway...

The very fact that these preconditions exist proves that you don't just pass at the right side whenever you feel like it, just because it gives you a warm and fuzzy feeling inside, or because you're doing the other driver a favor by being courteous (courteous in this case being a relative term). There's a reason why the left is still used for overtaking in countries with LHD.

Swerving (ni walang signal lights man lang...)

Which reminds me of another idiot on EDSA this morning, driving a gray Mazda van. Cut me off from the right lane without so much as a turn signal or a honk.

[NazQ]

irritating?

my sister when she's driving
- ayaw gumamit ng signal lights
- gumigitna sa dalawang lanes
- riding the clutch pag traffic
- using her cellphone, di makali pag may text or tumatawag..
- ayaw magbigay sa mga sumisingit, parang jeep, gigitgitin pa

arrrrgh!!! :boom1: