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    I think given that ANYTHING and EVERYTHING is going up in prices, its high time to make a thread where we can post all things that are going up in price. Since this is Tsikot the first thing is of course gas prices are going uo but I guess there are many threads discussing that already. But let me start of by saying that even our LPG tanks will now cost P3 more per kilo Baka may ibang tao bibili nalang ng posporo

    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/topoftheh...StoryId=120047

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    Natural gas price is on an upward trend
    http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/NG/W

    Tapos pahina pa peso. No wonder tataas LPG.

    Haynako...

    Gone are the days of price stability.

    the sky is falling...
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    http://business.inquirer.net/money/b...ation-at-88-96

    INFLATION for May is 8.8%-9.6% which IMO is still understated cause IMO we have double-digit inflation...

    Too add insullt to injury, the goons from the central bank is running the printing presses at a very fast rate...

    http://business.inquirer.net/money/b...-up-96-on-year

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    Blame the commodity speculators. Leading cost of inflation again is high oil prices. Many say this crises will last until early 2010. Yung nakakatakot yung hyper inflation, like what happen in Argentina in the 90's.
    Last edited by Monseratto; May 30th, 2008 at 06:30 PM.

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    Speculators can't be blamed entirely, they are rich guys who want to protect their wealth I am sure kung mayaman ka din you want to make sure your wealth will last you beyond your generation. The US Dollar is being printed at a very rapid rate and its value continues to depreciate. So people put their money in GOLD, OIL or other commodities which retain their value to preserve their wealth....

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    Since inflation is on the upward trend....does it follow that interest rates will follow suit?

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    If we have responsible central bankers then yes they have to raise the interest rate and they have to step on the brakes of the printing presses...

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    This inflation isnt caused by rapid economic growth.

    If this inflation was caused by rapid economic growth, then the central bank can slow it down a bit by raising interest rates.

    This inflation is caused by rising prices that have nothing to do with growth.

    Our economy doesnt need slowing down. It's already slow.

    If the central bank slows down our economy by raising interest rates, baka sa kangkongan pupulutin economy natin.

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    Okay...we are in a very unstable situation here. things does not make sense. Sana naman yung mga economic managers natin at technocrats should come forward and do something.

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    Unfortunately POLITICS will trump ECONOMICS. Raising interest rates is never popular among politikos...

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    This inflation isnt caused by rapid economic growth.

    If this inflation was caused by rapid economic growth, then the central bank can slow it down a bit by raising interest rates.

    This inflation is caused by rising prices that have nothing to do with growth.

    Our economy doesnt need slowing down. It's already slow.

    If the central bank slows down our economy by raising interest rates, baka sa kangkongan pupulutin economy natin.
    While that is true that our current inflation problems are not being caused by an overheating economy, they still have to raise interest rates to signal to the people that they are serious about inflation instead of just plain old verbal intervention. Raising interest rates should give that needed psychological effect to at least anchor INFLATION EXPECTATIONS. If businesses don't feel that inflation is well anchored then they will adjust prices rather quickly and that would pile up the inflation problems...

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    Yep i understand...

    Businesses will naturally raise the prices of their goods and services to keep up with rising cost and to maintain profit margins.

    But if they raise their prices too high, they will price themselves out of business. People will stop buying from them.

    There is a point of intersection where buyers are only willing to pay so high and sellers are only willing to sell so low.

    The market should be able to sort itself out.

    Central bank intervention (raising rates) could drive businesses out of business. People will lose jobs and the economy would be in worse shape.

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    Medyo inflation dove ako e hehe

    Tidus is our Charles Plosser. The Fed's inflation hawk
    Last edited by uls; May 30th, 2008 at 10:56 PM.

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    A few basis points wouldn't hurt... Maybe increase it by 25-50 basis points for now... Anyway for me if a business is over leveraged and they couldn't handle interest rate increases as part of normal economic cycle then so be it... Of course that is only my opinion, the politicians don't like that but that's why they are politicians and not economists. I am a hard blood capitalist and I believe its ok for businesses to fail if they couldn't protect themselves from the economic cycles... Well if you are not over leverqaged or better yet not dependent on credit (aka printing of new money out of thin air) then you should be okay...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tidus1203 View Post
    A few basis points wouldn't hurt... Maybe increase it by 25-50 basis points for now... Anyway for me if a business is over leveraged and they couldn't handle interest rate increases as part of normal economic cycle then so be it... Of course that is only my opinion, the politicians don't like that but that's why they are politicians and not economists. I am a hard blood capitalist and I believe its ok for businesses to fail if they couldn't protect themselves from the economic cycles... Well if you are not over leverqaged or better yet not dependent on credit (aka printing of new money out of thin air) then you should be okay...
    good point Tidus.

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    http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakin...rise----report

    Now even BEEF and PORK prices are going to go up....

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    http://www.gmanews.tv/story/98580/Ec...-raising-rates

    Now the economists are encouraging the BSP to raise interest rates. Basta for me whatever happens; even if we fall into a recession we should never ever have a negative real interest rates. It makes money like toilet paper in that scenario, I don't care if companies who are over-leverage go bust but the integrity of our money must be upheld at all times... I am always for sound money!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tidus1203 View Post
    http://www.gmanews.tv/story/98580/Ec...-raising-rates

    Now the economists are encouraging the BSP to raise interest rates. Basta for me whatever happens; even if we fall into a recession we should never ever have a negative real interest rates. It makes money like toilet paper in that scenario, I don't care if companies who are over-leverage go bust but the integrity of our money must be upheld at all times... I am always for sound money!
    para san ba yun interest rates? pag nangutang ka sa bangko o sa credit card

    kanina ko pa pilit iniintindi eh

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    Market sentiment has turned negative coz of inflation concerns
    http://www.gmanews.tv/story/98862/RP...n-woes-persist

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringostarr View Post
    para san ba yun interest rates? pag nangutang ka sa bangko o sa credit card

    kanina ko pa pilit iniintindi eh
    INTEREST is the cost of money. So yeah whenever you use money (that i not yours) then you pay interest. If you let others use your money (lend it) then you get paid interest.

    How does interest control inflation or how does it stimulate the economy you ask? Well let's first make things clear that the central bank can print as much money as it deems right (although I would add my opinion here that they are printing too much) and lend it out to bank and the banks to the consumer or businesses. If there is TOO MUCH MONEY chasing the same or worse lessening goods in the economy then prices rise. For example I have 5 loaves of bread and we have P10 in total money supply then the bread would cost P2. Now if I printed more money and made the supply at P20 then the bread will now cost P4 thus inflation. I know its a very simplistic example, but it works something like that. Now if they raise interest rates they slow down the printing of money cause less people will borrow because the cost is now higher. If interest rates are low more people would like to borrow (thus more money supply in the economy) because the cost of borrowing is lower. Tightening interest rates slows the economy since there is less money circulating around, loosening the interest rates though makes money very accessible and that stimulates business expansion thus the economy strengthens.

    Mahirap ma-explain but I hope na-gets mo more or less...

    Here is a video from the European Central Bank which should give beginners an idea how inflation and deflation is controlled via monetary policy...
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sjQ7ly2NDU"]YouTube - European Central Bank Educational Video[/ame]

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    Quote Originally Posted by tidus1203 View Post
    http://www.gmanews.tv/story/98580/Ec...-raising-rates

    Now the economists are encouraging the BSP to raise interest rates. Basta for me whatever happens; even if we fall into a recession we should never ever have a negative real interest rates. It makes money like toilet paper in that scenario, I don't care if companies who are over-leverage go bust but the integrity of our money must be upheld at all times... I am always for sound money!

    To have more money in their coffers? ..... Hmmmmm.....

    They should encourage more money in the market (for spending) to stimulate the economy....

    Again, since the world economy is oil-based, then the government should utilize their evat as the country's safety net by removing it from the root cause of all of these (price of oil and oil products).... Again, might not be enough but should help.... But then again, oil prices continue to soar.....

    6110:pepsi:

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