i drove at nlex last nite

[niwde11]

Originally posted by notEworthy27
i wouldn't suggest that cars pass by pulang lupa from c5 extension. mejo lubak lubak ang daan ngayon. inaayos din kaya mejo matrapik lalo na kapag kasabay mo ang mga delivery trucks..

buti na lang napaalala ni notEworthy27, di nga pala advisable sa car yung alternate route. Kung katulad ni "Beast" ang rig ninyo(kahit tamer and at the same time practice 4 micro rockcrawling), pwede na sya. with regards dun sa mga delivery truck, di naman ganun karami kasi me bayad yata yung access road sa kanila while sa private vehicles ay wala.HTH.

[ian_rex]

well, opinion lang po. medyo mahal nga, pero to think na giginhawa, e ok lang yun. siya nga pala, confirm ko lang din (i hope wala pang nag-raise nito), meron na tayong speed limit. +/- 60km/h ang minimum & +/-100 km/h ang maximum. may mga naka embed na speed trap at camera so better watch out dahil pag dating mo sa balintawak, e sigurado haharangin ka. :D

[es5]

wala nang 100km/h minimum and 160km/h maximum??? haha tsk...tsk...

[FrankDrebin]

Mahal pa rin ang P42 sa short distance lang! Pwede bang tawaran?

[hagiber]

Originally posted by ian_rex
may mga naka embed na speed trap at camera so better watch out dahil pag dating mo sa balintawak, e sigurado haharangin ka. :D

May clue na ba tayo kung saan saan nakalagay yung mga cameras and speedtraps ?

[Ungas]

Wala, at isa pang basis gagamitin nila ay total time travelled over distance exit. Calculated na nila yung travel time ng sasakyan from point A to point B. Even if you evaded their speed traps, pag napaaga ka ng dating sa sa toll exit. Sita muna first offense, then recorded na vehicle mo. 2nd offense huli na.

[boybi]

Originally posted by Ungas
Wala, at isa pang basis gagamitin nila ay total time travelled over distance exit. Calculated na nila yung travel time ng sasakyan from point A to point B. Even if you evaded their speed traps, pag napaaga ka ng dating sa sa toll exit. Sita muna first offense, then recorded na vehicle mo. 2nd offense huli na.

ok lang yan, palagi naman akong nag-stop over sa mga gas stations ngayon kelangan kong malaman kung nasaan mga speed traps!

[Ungas]

Itatanong ko, pag implemented na.

Sabay di ko sasabihin kung saan. :bwahaha:

Balita ko may plan din lagyan ng cameras, which records driving habits.

[boybi]

napaka KJ naman ng MNTC! ang ganda ganda ng daan tapos ayaw pagamit to its full potential!

gawa kaya sila ng autobahn sundays? :bwahaha:

[RedHorse]

he he he

naalala ko na... may kontak pala si Ungas dyan sa MNTC.. nabanggit nya noon ng magkasama kami sa isuzu challenge...

[boybi]

hmmm, baka may share si Ungas sa MNTC! pahingi naman ng discount kapag nag increase na ng fare!!!

[GlennSter]

ako din please!!!madalas kami ngayon sa bulacan eh...ehrherherher

[Ungas]

O ba! Discount lang pala eh! Sabihin nyo sa teller yung username ko, dagdagan nyo ng "...kayong lahat na mga taga-MNTC!" :bwahaha:

[mikaztro]

Projected NLE toll rate a rip off?
MOTORING TODAY By Ray Butch Gamboa, SPMJ
The Philippine STAR 06/30/2004

Allow me to publish here a letter from one of our readers, Ms. Mercy Rosetes, a resident of Sto. Nino, Meycauayan, Bulacan and a regular user of the North Luzon Expressway (NLE), who conveys her dismay over the NLE’s projected toll rate, which she finds exorbitant and a lot higher than that of the South Luzon Expressway (SLE). She writes…

"The North Luzon Expressway rehabilitation proponent, Manila North Tollway Corporation (MNTC), has started its PR campaign on the increased toll rates it would collect for the entire 82-kilometer span of the NLE before the end of the year, or once the rehabilitation is finished by October. By then, to travel between Balintawak and Sta.Ines, cars and jeeps (Class 1 vehicles) would be charged P200 one-way from the present rate of P26; buses would be charged P400 and trucks P600. My concern, however, is the P38 — P40 toll rate that would be collected from cars that travel the 6-km distance from Balintawak to Valenzuela or Malinta. This toll rate of P6.66 / km is a shocking 1,800 to 2,000 per cent increase!

According to MNTC officials, this is cheaper than the tolls collected at SLE. I found out that the initial toll rate for the newly rehabilitated 6.5-km Magallanes — Bicutan section was P15 or P2.30 / km. Its present rate is still lower at P20 compared to NLE’s P38 — P40."

Well, I have always been against flat toll fees for long stretches covering several exits, as what Ms. Rosetes is complaining about graphically demonstrates. This is arguably an advantage to the toll operator but an unquestionable drawback for the tollway user.

I have always maintained that the proponents who have invested on the improvement or rehabilitation of the tollways have the option to charge toll fees, within reasonable limits, that are needed in order to recoup the large investments that went to the road’s vast improvement.

However, I would have to qualify that such proponents’ option is open if, first, the motoring public had an alternative route to take instead of a well-paved, beautifully landscaped, convenient and comfortable highway — attributes that have their price. The alternate route gives the motorist a free choice of whether to travel "ordinary" through the roads that their government can afford to provide or opt for the "special", which would logically cost more.

Second, if the motorists were not in any way a part or had no equity in the rehabilitation of the highway — which in this case they have, considering that increased toll fees were collected during the rehabilitation period. This I view as motorists’ equity in the rehabilitation. Aside from the inconvenience they suffered during the completion of the project while paying toll fees, the motorists having still to pay additional toll fees while the rehab is going on makes them outright co-investors in the project, having partly financed it.

Having said that, I believe that the rationale behind toll fee rates of the NLE upon its rehab’s completion should be based more on the reasonable capacity of the motoring public to pay (the motorists being co-investors in the project) rather than on the main proponents’ enterprising goal of an "immediate return of investments".

Sadly, the announced projected toll fees to be imposed upon the completion of the rehab of the NLE seem to be way beyond the reasonable paying capacity of the motoring public, especially those who travel the length regularly whether for business or as a part of daily routine. And having flat charges covering long stretches that include several exits are not going to help the motorists either.

Does it look like a rip off?

[pissword]

dapat kasi top speed dyan 100mph eh sayang lang ang pagpapaganda, d nagagamit ng full potential haha parang SUV na gagamitin lang ng nanay

[mikaztro]

Cars and jeeps (Class 1 vehicles) would be charged P200 one-way from the present rate? What the f**k is that!

[pissword]

amahal!!!! hahaha shet

[RedHorse]

ok lang 200 na one way, basta walang lubak at mabilis byahe, at observed ang passing lane speed!

pero kung nagkatraffic sa loob ng MNTC, dapat suli bayad!

[mikaztro]

MNTC wants to take over operation of NLEX on Nov. 30 By Ding Cervantes
The Philippine Star 10/16/2004 ANGELES CITY — The Manila North Tollways Corp. (MNTC) wants to take over the management and operation of the North Luzon Expressway (NLEX) on Nov. 30.

This, as the opposition of Pampanga officials to the nearly 600 percent toll hike which the MNTC plans to impose upon its takeover, mounts.

In a phone interview with The STAR, Marlene Ochoa, MNTC vice president for public information, however, said the MNTC has yet to apply for a certificate of substantial completion of the P18-billion NLEX modernization project from the Toll Regulatory Board (TRB).

With such a certificate, the TRB can then issue a toll operating permit in time for the MNTC’s planned Nov. 30 takeover.

"The TRB has yet to look into our (proposed) new toll rates," Ochoa said.

The Pampanga provincial board and other local officials, however, vowed to question the proposed toll hike in court.

Earlier this week, representatives of the University of the Philippines’ Planning and Research Development Foundation Inc. presented to the provincial board, chaired by Vice Gov. Joseller Guiao, their study showing that despite higher toll rates, "it would be much cheaper to travel on the upgraded NLEX in terms of fuel and vehicle wear-and-tear savings, and also in terms of reduced travel time."

Although they were apparently convinced about the benefits of the upgraded NLEX, the provincial board members said they would ask the TRB to disallow the MNTC’s proposed new toll rates.

"My biggest apprehension is the inflexibility of the supplemental tollway operation agreement (between the MNTC and the government), although the UP study presented to us looks convincing enough," the local daily Sun Star quoted Guiao as saying.

Under the agreement, the MNTC is entitled to increase toll rates every two years based on the peso-dollar exchange and inflation rates, among other factors.

Citing the results of the UP study, Ochoa said, "At the end of the day, it is much cheaper to travel on the NLEX in terms of fuel and wear-and-tear of vehicle and reduced travel time. The new NLEX also ensures motorists’ safety and comfort."

In Angeles City, councilor Jay Sangil joined fourth district Rep. Anna York Bondoc in calling for opposition to the higher toll rates.

The MNTC is proposing a toll rate of P2.49 per kilometer along the 84-kilometer stretch of the NLEX, or an increase of nearly 600 percent from the current rate of the state-owned Philippine National Construction Corp. (PNCC).

According to the MNTC, expanding the NLEX by six to eight lanes in some portions and from four to six lanes in other portions would bring about "a dramatic increase in vehicle volume without sacrificing speed and comfort."

It added that the proposed higher toll rates "will cover operations and maintenance expenses and allow for a reasonable investment recovery mechanism to make the NLEX operations viable."

When the contract was signed in 1998, the MNTC said the toll rate was set at 82 centavos per kilometer. But this base rate, it said, "has remained the same but adjustment factors such as the peso devaluation against the US dollar and inflation over the past six years have pushed the rate upwards."

According to the UP study, Class I vehicles such as cars will save 95 centavos per kilometer or a total of P76 if they use the entire stretch of the NLEX.

On the other hand, it said Class 2 vehicles such as light trucks and buses will save P7.44 per kilometer or P595 for the entire NLEX, and Class 3 vehicles such as heavy trucks and cars, P5.02 per kilometer or P402 for the entire length.

The UP study attributed the savings to reduced travel time, fuel-saving speed and other factors that make travel along the upgraded expressway more efficient.

[Ungas]

It's not that they want to take over, behind the curtain talks between Benpres holdings was planning to sell their shares to MNTC. Or was it already sold to MNTC?

Old PNCC employees are given until the end of this month for their work. After that MNTC will be placing their own manpower.