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    Among the most abusive government employees I know of are immigration officers assigned at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (Naia).

    Immigration officers anywhere in the world have the power to allow or prohibit foreigners from entering their country even for something as petty as not liking the way you look.

    Our immigration officers at the Naia are aware of such a power, and some of them abuse it.

    Philip C. Reyes (not Cruz as earlier reported in this column), an immigration officer, allegedly tore the passport of a departing Filipino woman, Charmaine Jamila Zdrzynski.

    Charmaine was with her Australian husband, Arthur Zdrzynski, when the incident happened.

    The Zdrzynskis were leaving for Melbourne, Australia, via Kuala Lumpur on Nov. 13 but were prevented from doing so because of Charmaine’s torn passport.

    Reyes, who had examined Charmaine’s passport, reportedly went through Charmaine’s passport backwards and forward for about 10 minutes.

    Not content, he went to a room to further check the passport.

    When Reyes came out of the room about three minutes later, he told Charmaine that the passport’s covers were ripped apart from the inside pages.

    When the Zdrzynskis protested, Reyes said Charmaine should shut up, otherwise he would ban her husband from entering the country again.

    “Reyes threatened us repeatedly by saying, ‘You will reap the consequences of your protests,” they claimed.

    Reyes even laughed when the Zdrzynskis said they would report his behavior, according to the couple.

    All the time, the Zdrzynskis said, Reyes’ superiors—on duty supervisor Janet Anolin and deputy head supervisor Ricardo Sarao—were backing up Reyes.















    “Did you see him rip it? Did you? If not then you can’t accuse Mr. Reyes of ripping your wife’s passport. Are you accusing Mr. Reyes of ripping her passport?” Sarao reportedly shouted at Arthur.



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    The Zdrzynskis have since left—Charmaine was able to have her passport replaced Friday, Dec. 6—but asked the “Isumbong Mo kay Tulfo” program to represent them at the board of discipline of the Bureau of Immigration.

    The board of discipline is hearing the couple’s complaint against Reyes.

    As head of “Isumbong,” I am including supervisors Janet Anolin and Ricardo Sarao in the complaint in the board of discipline for tolerating Reyes’ behavior.



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    Quote Originally Posted by cammer View Post
    Among the most abusive government employees I know of are immigration officers assigned at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (Naia).

    Immigration officers anywhere in the world have the power to allow or prohibit foreigners from entering their country even for something as petty as not liking the way you look.

    Our immigration officers at the Naia are aware of such a power, and some of them abuse it.

    Philip C. Reyes (not Cruz as earlier reported in this column), an immigration officer, allegedly tore the passport of a departing Filipino woman, Charmaine Jamila Zdrzynski.

    Charmaine was with her Australian husband, Arthur Zdrzynski, when the incident happened.

    The Zdrzynskis were leaving for Melbourne, Australia, via Kuala Lumpur on Nov. 13 but were prevented from doing so because of Charmaine’s torn passport.

    Reyes, who had examined Charmaine’s passport, reportedly went through Charmaine’s passport backwards and forward for about 10 minutes.

    Not content, he went to a room to further check the passport.

    When Reyes came out of the room about three minutes later, he told Charmaine that the passport’s covers were ripped apart from the inside pages.

    When the Zdrzynskis protested, Reyes said Charmaine should shut up, otherwise he would ban her husband from entering the country again.

    “Reyes threatened us repeatedly by saying, ‘You will reap the consequences of your protests,” they claimed.

    Reyes even laughed when the Zdrzynskis said they would report his behavior, according to the couple.

    All the time, the Zdrzynskis said, Reyes’ superiors—on duty supervisor Janet Anolin and deputy head supervisor Ricardo Sarao—were backing up Reyes.















    “Did you see him rip it? Did you? If not then you can’t accuse Mr. Reyes of ripping your wife’s passport. Are you accusing Mr. Reyes of ripping her passport?” Sarao reportedly shouted at Arthur.



    * * *

    The Zdrzynskis have since left—Charmaine was able to have her passport replaced Friday, Dec. 6—but asked the “Isumbong Mo kay Tulfo” program to represent them at the board of discipline of the Bureau of Immigration.

    The board of discipline is hearing the couple’s complaint against Reyes.

    As head of “Isumbong,” I am including supervisors Janet Anolin and Ricardo Sarao in the complaint in the board of discipline for tolerating Reyes’ behavior.



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    They are abusive. I go overseas almost every other week and I regularly see them stopping pinoys from leaving the country. Their reason is that they suspect that these pinoys will try to seek employment overseas. For a country whose dollar revenue relies a lot on OFWs sending back money, they sure are a stumbling block to our economy. They play judge, jury and executioner with these cases that I see often when I go through immigration.

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    nung pumunta ako ng malaysia, may nakasabay akong babae na balak mag apply ng teacher sa malaysia.
    1st time nyang sumakay ng plane kaya medyo ninierbyos.
    nung time na nya sa immigration, ayun ang kakawang ale. na off-load.

    bakit nila haharangin ang mga pinoy na gustong mag trabaho sa ibang bansa?
    pasalamat pa nga sila kasi makakatulong sila sa ekonomiya ng pinas.

    ang katwiran ng mga immigration, para daw maiwasan ang napapahamak ang mga pinoy abroad. dapat daw sumaan sa tamang proseso. ang probleman naman sa tamang proseso, napapagastos ng malaki at the same time, nababarat ng mga employers. kasi nga malaki ang nagagastos nila sa pag kuha via agency.

    kaya nga tayo may embassy at owwa/polo...trabaho nila na asikasuhin at tulungan yung mga pinoy sa ibang bansa.
    pinapasweldo sila para gawin nila ang trabaho nila. at ang sweldo nila, galing sa mga taong dapat nilang pag silbihan.

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    Which is part of their mandate, obviously na promdi, first time mag abroad, konti kang dalang pera, tapos magbabakasyon lang daw...profiling ganyan talaga..

    Bakit kailangan pang paalisin kung mapipigilan naman dito agad, pag dating doon since illegal workers ma exploit tapos gusto na umuwi...

    Yun iba kasi ng punta lang ng ganitong country kuno nagiging jump off point lang nila punta ng Middle East.

    Tama lang yun makita mo na off load...magaaply pa lang, so hinde pa sigurado meron trabaho...

    Abusive sila pag complete papers at legal na mag OFW tapos pipigilan nila.

    Yun sa original na post eh kung meron talaga problema yun passport? Baka yun tins tawag nilang baklas.. Married to an Australian yun babae, Baka natanong na gaano na sila katagal more oftentimes yan not nagkakilala lang yan sa internet tapos landi konti, punta si OZ dito para pakasalan...or maid order bride pala

    Kayo never kayo na stop diba? Simply bec you have legit reason to travel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chrismarte View Post
    halos parehas ang story?! modus?
    Bulok talaga gawa ng passport natin, I noticed it when I renew it with the new one...parang mabilis mapunit yun pages sa stalk


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    isa sa mga main competitors ng mga pinoy dito sa ME is the south asians (indians, sri lankans, nepal, etc.).
    napakdali nilang pumunta dito.
    like i always tell, their economy is being drive by their ofw's.

    kaya tingnan nyo, malapit na nilang launch yung aircraft carrier nila.

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    Experience ko, nag OFW din kasi ako.

    1st time ko mag abroad (yr 2006), na delayed ng 45min ung emirates kasi pina hold ako ng imigration, nag request na i-fax daw sa kanila ung nbi clearance ko, ilang beses sinabi na walang fax na dumadating, sinabi ko kanina pa tumatawag sa fax number nyo ayaw naman mag receive, tinignan namin ung fax machine walang papel.

    2nd time, same country, harang ulit kahit dala ko na nbi clearance, dapat daw kumuha ako ng dfa clearance, sinabihan ko ung imigration officer, baka gusto mo magbigay na ng listahan kung anong documents ang gusto nyo makita para in advance ma process ko na, nbi ang hiningi last time kaya nbi lan ang dinala ko.

    3rd time, bawal daw ako pumunta sa country of destination, sabi ko iba ang spelling ng IRAQ at spelling ng IRAN.

    kahit sa bagong pasport na ang gamit ko, machine readable nagtatagal pa din ako sa imigration, mas madali kausapain ang imigration sa ibang bansa kesa sa pinoy imigration (walang direction kung ano ang gusto).

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    ewan ko ba...
    lagi akong kinakabahan pag kaharap ko na ang immigration officer. kahit na legit ang travel ko.
    para kasing feeling ko, macha-chambahan ako nila na pagka kwartahan.
    balita ko kasi kapag na chempuhan ka, gagawa sila ng paraan para maglabas ka ng pera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rollyic View Post
    ewan ko ba...
    lagi akong kinakabahan pag kaharap ko na ang immigration officer. kahit na legit ang travel ko.
    para kasing feeling ko, macha-chambahan ako nila na pagka kwartahan.
    balita ko kasi kapag na chempuhan ka, gagawa sila ng paraan para maglabas ka ng pera.
    ako nga din eh. kinakabahan din ako. sayang ang miles eh. husle pa rebook ng flight.

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    I just went through again and I brought some staff with me for a week's worth of training. They detained my staff for 20 minutes asking all sorts of questions even though they had all their letters of invite, hotel bookings, conference confirmations and return tickets. Though I can imagine that there would be a lot of people who try to sneak out, the immigration people should be better trained to be able to quickly identify these people and not just harass people who legitimately need to travel for work / pleasure.

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    Madalas na nakikita kong naho-hold
    sa immigration eh mga babae.
    di mo rin sila masisisi - dami kasi na nagpupunta
    abroad (like in Singapore), para lang maging
    prostitute.
    me mga nagwowork sa mga bars, walang
    work permit. exit lang madalas sa indonesia or malaysia
    para ma-extend yung visit pass nila.

    pero dami talaga kupal dyan sa IO sa mga PH airports.
    di mo maintindihan kung naghihintay sila
    na maglagay ka or nang-aasar lang.

    di lang pala IO, pati customs officers.

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    ^power tripping sir yan mga yan. Tsk

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    sorry guys but i beg to disagree. exception lang siguro yung sa immigration officer that held the pinay with the "torn" passport. pero alam naman kasi ng mga immigration na meron talagang namemeke ng passport, nagtitinda ng passport kasi wala na sila balak umalis pa (pinapalitan ang picture, assume the identity of the owner) o ninanakaw na passport (at pinapalitan ng picture, and same assume identity of the owner). so kung meron kahit maliit lang na punit, sira sa stitching, umangat na plastic na nagcocover ng picture, stain ng glue sa visa, etc etc, yari ka na.

    need nila maging strict lalo na sa mga babae. ang dami kayang mga pinay na nasa "coffee shop" sa malaysia. ang sasabihin sa kanila e DH, pag dating dun rape ang aabutin, then tapon sa prostitution ring. sa singapore ganun din. at masakit dun e pag dating dun e may instant utang pa sila, x10 ng cost of air ticket. at may running total pa, board and lodging fee. nuon sa thailand may nakita akong 2 pinay sa bar. nagtaka ako bakit pinay e sa bar sa thailand nagwowork. maganda sila pareho so kinausap ko. waitress daw apply nila sa pinas papuntang hong kong, tour kunwari sa HK. pero pag dating sa HK pinasakay ulit sila sa plane, bagsak sila sa bangkok. ginawang pokpok, ayun di na makauwi wala nang passport. kinuha ko na lang names saka send ako ng letter sa philippine embassy. after 2 months di ko na nakita sila ulit dun sa bar. either tinago, o sana naman nakauwi na. idagdag mo pa dyan yung mga nagkalat na pinay sa dubai, lalo na yung mga nasa island na "*** for food" na ang ikinabubuhay. may napanuod pa akong video na pinakita sa akin ng kasama ko dati sa rig, matagal na more than 6 years ago. mukhang pinay yung babae at mga puti yung mga lalake. gang bang, tapos pagkatapos painumin ng semen e tinaihan pa sa mouth. then sinaksak. clearly victim ng human trafficking and white slavery. yan ang mga iniiwasan ng mga imigration personnel na mangyari sa mga hindi dumadaan sa legal process.

    now in the case of this pinay and her ausie husband, isa e bawal na nga ang mail order bride. pangalawa, pwedeng hindi si babae yung tunay na may ari ng passport (palit picture, tampered passport). kunwari papunta ng australia pero idro-drop-off somewhere. kaya kung may nakita (in this case, punit na page) e alarm bells na agad. ok arrogant yung imigration officer, taken na yan. pero he might just be doing his job. also remember social media, unang mag-post panalo. yun ba ang true story? ows!

    ang dali kasi magsabi na mali, pero they might just be doing their jobs.

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    Kahit saan naman nangyayari sir na nagagalit un mga tao sa nakaupo pero meron palang dahilan bakit ginagawa nila un. Nice input sir yebo

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    Mas magaling mag explain si yebo sa akin but basically ganun din paniwala ko...


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    fafa yebo kinausap mo lang ba yung dalawang pinay? :banana3:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Syuryuken View Post
    fafa yebo kinausap mo lang ba yung dalawang pinay? :banana3:

    mabait ako nung gabing yun pare, binigyan ko pa nga ng pang-kain at di pa daw sila kumakain ng dinner.

    saka may ka-table na akong "white indian" na grabe sobrang ganda. eto yung habang nasa elevator kami e biglang umutot ng kay baho-baho na hindi ako makahinga. at nung kasalukuyan ng dogie e umutot ulit. aba hinimatay bigla si manoy e, di na nabuhay ulit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    at nung kasalukuyan ng dogie e umutot ulit. aba hinimatay bigla si manoy e, di na nabuhay ulit.
    nakakapang init ng ulo ang ganyan...malapit kana tapos panira ng climax :D

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