Holdaper sa Lagro Subdivision

[A121]

Weird lang. May tanod dyan sa may tri mo shawarma. Tingin ko kasabwat yang mga yan dahil hindi na mga tiga-Lagro ang tanod.

Madami na ngang siraulo na nakakapasok sa subdivision. Kaming magkakatabing mga bahay nanakawan na. Pinatrace ko dati yung ninakaw ko na cellphone, bumagsak sa Payatas area. Kadalasan mga bata ang gamit nila para magnakaw.

[glenn manikis]

anong kaso-kaso sagasaan mo agad pag may humarang sayo hindi mo alam ang utak ng mga kriminal. sabi nga ng kumpare kong piskal banatan mo na agad saka na ang paliwanagan.

tama...

kaso? buhay mo naman ang kapalit...

isa pa kriminal yan...

never pa ako naka encounter ng criminal na sila pa ang nagsampa ng kaso sa NINAKAWAN nila...

kung mag reklamo man... Kay fiscal during p.i. palang dismiss na yan...

wag lang patay ha... disable mo lang... he.he...

tapos bahala na si kumpare na fixedcal... este fiscal pala.... he.he...

[brainmafia_310]

Madami riding in tandem na di ka bubuhayin, shoot to kill mga yan para di ka makalaban. Kung kinuha pa sasakyan mo at sakay mo anak mo e di nakidnap pa. Pedal to the metal nga dapat (although i don't know what that would do on a crosswind ).

Kaso pag napatay mo? Kaya nga may dashcam e.
Baka gantihan ka? E di unahan mo na.

True. One of my moms friend and officemate was killed. It was 4am at silang cavite along aguinaldo hiway. She was waiting for a bus to go to work (taft ave) and suddenly a MC appears out of nowhere and snatch her shoulder bag. She already gave her bag but instead the maderpakers stop and shoot her at the head.

Me, i will think of preserving myself first.

Happend to me also at daang hari but not holdap but rather confrontation. Sabi ko sa nakamotor kasi nilabasan ako ng balisong pagbinaril kita dito at di ka na makapagpaliwanag dahil tepok ka na, nasa hukay ka na kakasuhan pa kita ng holdap/robbery. Hehehhe.



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[vinj]

Same advise from my lawyer. If they presented a firearm and you were also armed, fire back immediately since most vehicles will give you the advantage of tinted windows. Bihira naman daw sa mga ganyang small time criminal ang malakas sa courts. Magagawan na ng paraan ng court yun para palabasin na may intent to kill ang bad guys. A dashboard cam (and some creative editing if required) will help also.

In our tactical driving training, it is always the objective to 'escape the x' or the kill zone. So running these punks over is part of that. Never mind the humps, vehicle damage, etc. Just ram and scram and flee to a safe area or police station and document the incident.

In any case, im glad the victim is safe.

Otep... subukan lang ng riding in tandem humarang sa LC80 mo. Ewan ko nalang kung ano maiiwan sa kanila at sa motor nila.... baka hindi mo nga makita na humarang sila sa iyo at nasagasaan mo na. Kala mo nalubak ka lang. :D

[automot0]

Otep... subukan lang ng riding in tandem humarang sa LC80 mo. Ewan ko nalang kung ano maiiwan sa kanila at sa motor nila.... baka hindi mo nga makita na humarang sila sa iyo at nasagasaan mo na. Kala mo nalubak ka lang. :D

baka yung motor nila maging parang bike lang na sinagasaan nung montero sa kabilang thread

[OTEP]

Otep... subukan lang ng riding in tandem humarang sa LC80 mo. Ewan ko nalang kung ano maiiwan sa kanila at sa motor nila.... baka hindi mo nga makita na humarang sila sa iyo at nasagasaan mo na. Kala mo nalubak ka lang. :D

Parang mas ok talagang banggain. Last resort na lang ang ballistic option.

[holdencaulfield]

yung asawa ni ariel na kasama ni maviric, di ba balak patayin ng riding in tandem dito sa banawe pag labas nila ng mandarin sky? sakay na sila ng grand starex inabangan na sila ng RIT. pero nakuha bundulin ng driver yung RIT. ang kaso hindi napuruhan yung mga gago kaya pinagbababaril sila.
buti buhay yung mga sakay ng starex.

[vinj]

Parang mas ok talagang banggain. Last resort na lang ang ballistic option.

Pwede naman ipa-hose and detail yung LC80 after. Don't waste your ammo on airhead targets. :D

[kapitan88]

easier said than done. kasi ngayon alam natin ang naging outcome (holdup), but, if tayo yung andun, clueless of what is going to happen, by the time na maisip/makita natin na bumunot, siguro, nasa side na ng driver yung gunman. sino sasagasaan mo? Unless na buo ang dibdib mo, at humarang palang yung motor, bago bumaba, sasagasaan mo na agad.

Sa akin lang, parang di pa clear lahat what will happen, kaya di naka react agad yung driver. Sabi nya, binusinahan, baka inisip ng brother, na confrontation lang dahil sa busina; while yung sa news na starex na nag u-turn binangga yung riding in tandem, binaril muna sila. clear na agad dun, na may intent to harm, kaya in the process nang pag iwas, nakuha nyang banggain, but here, hindi pa clear sa driver ano ang problem.

but, if may time ako to react, at makita ko din agad na bumunot ng baril at nasa harap ko pa sya, sasagasaan ko na din; which i dont think the case here. IMHO lang.

[thejerk]

easier said than done. kasi ngayon alam natin ang naging outcome (holdup), but, if tayo yung andun, clueless of what is going to happen, by the time na maisip/makita natin na bumunot, siguro, nasa side na ng driver yung gunman. sino sasagasaan mo? Unless na buo ang dibdib mo, at humarang palang yung motor, bago bumaba, sasagasaan mo na agad.

Sa akin lang, parang di pa clear lahat what will happen, kaya di naka react agad yung driver. Sabi nya, binusinahan, baka inisip ng brother, na confrontation lang dahil sa busina; while yung sa news na starex na nag u-turn binangga yung riding in tandem, binaril muna sila. clear na agad dun, na may intent to harm, kaya in the process nang pag iwas, nakuha nyang banggain, but here, hindi pa clear sa driver ano ang problem.

but, if may time ako to react, at makita ko din agad na bumunot ng baril at nasa harap ko pa sya, sasagasaan ko na din; which i dont think the case here. IMHO lang.

this. hindsight really is 20/20.

[yebo]

^^ that is why there is something called "situational awareness". this is about knowing your environment at ALL times. it is a constant, deliberate effort to observe and determine all possible threats.

when you are driving you are suppose to check your side mirrors and rear view mirror every few seconds, di lang sa harap nakatingin. you are also suppose to look far and near. that is just defensive driving di ba. situational awareness is taking that defensive driving practice to a higher level, this time not just assessing what other drivers are doing and possibly do, but assessing if they are a threat. you then try to predict what this possible threat will do, even doing tests of your suspicions (like speeding up, changing lanes or making turns). it also requires to be aware of possible ambush points, like in this particular case while crossing a hump on the road. you also make plans and prepare - pag hinarang ako i floor the gas and aim for the bastard, get your gun from its hiding place, lock and load.

kung mahilig ka sa guns, or even simple personal security, meron available info about this topic sa internet and gun magazines/publications.

[yebo]

kaya lahat tayo pag may nakita tayo na riding in tandem sa likod natin super allert na dapat tayo. make that defense plan - tatakbo ka ba, o lalaban. alam naman na natin na most crimes againts drivers nowadays are committed by RIT gangs e may nakita ka na RIT tapos bale wala pa din, isip victim pa din. dapat winner instinct (or killer instinct!) lagi.

[thejerk]

^madaling sabihin yan in theory. pero the reality is, madami masyado factors sa lahat ng incident. it is really important to be situationally aware, pero mamaya sa sobrang "aware", lahat nalang ng RIT na titigil, sasagasaan mo.

in this case, mabuti nalang na cash at wedding ring lang ang nakuha. i'm sure natrauma rin yung biktima.

[yebo]

hindi naman lahat ng RIT e nanunutok ng baril e. kaya nga you observe. kung lahat e sasagasaan mo hindi situational awareness yun, paranoid na yun.

[thejerk]

hindi naman lahat ng RIT e nanunutok ng baril e. kaya nga you observe. kung lahat e sasagasaan mo hindi situational awareness yun, paranoid na yun.

basahin mo ulit post ni kapitan88.

[CLAVEL3699]

basahin mo ulit post ni kapitan88.

ok naman suggestion ni Sir Yebo. boss kung baga dapat laging handa lang.

[OTEP]

Kahapon lang, was heading to a patient. Kita ko sa rearview mirror yung sasakyan ng kalaban ng boss ko. Ok lang, alam ko naman kung san ang punta nun ng ganung oras, pero nung nag deviate siya sa dapat niya puntahan at hindi umalis sa likod ko mas naging alert na ko. Did the usual checks like kunwari aakyat sa flyover then last minute biglang hindi sumampa ng flyover to see if susunod pa din. Ayaw bumitaw. Ginawa ko pinasok ko sa e.r ng isang hospital na malapit. Ayun, di na nakasunod. Pero nag ready na ko ng defensive equipment and nag inform na ko sa mga tropa na may nakasunod and kung ano balak ko.

Tama sila, always check your surroundings.

[A121]

Kahapon lang, was heading to a patient. Kita ko sa rearview mirror yung sasakyan ng kalaban ng boss ko. Ok lang, alam ko naman kung san ang punta nun ng ganung oras, pero nung nag deviate siya sa dapat niya puntahan at hindi umalis sa likod ko mas naging alert na ko. Did the usual checks like kunwari aakyat sa flyover then last minute biglang hindi sumampa ng flyover to see if susunod pa din. Ayaw bumitaw. Ginawa ko pinasok ko sa e.r ng isang hospital na malapit. Ayun, di na nakasunod. Pero nag ready na ko ng defensive equipment and nag inform na ko sa mga tropa na may nakasunod and kung ano balak ko.

Tama sila, always check your surroundings.

true. playing grand theft auto will make you aware.

kahit yung mga nambabastos sa kalsada (cut, swerving) dapat expect mo na gigitgitin ka.

[vinj]

true. playing grand theft auto will make you aware.

kahit yung mga nambabastos sa kalsada (cut, swerving) dapat expect mo na gigitgitin ka.

That's one thing a lot of us have learned by driving defensively on these streets, being able to predict the movements of a-holes on the road. It helps you avoid their intentions or in some occasions, allows you to do a "close call" with them without initiating an accident (para matuto).

[Ry_Tower]

That's one thing a lot of us have learned by driving defensively on these streets, being able to predict the movements of a-holes on the road. It helps you avoid their intentions or in some occasions, allows you to do a "close call" with them without initiating an accident (para matuto).

Mas mabuti na kasi dagdag ingat kesa madali nang kamot ulo na MC na magsasabi, "wala akong pera sir."

In MM, defensive driving should really include being aware of RIT's because of common crimes they commit. Depende talaga sa situation kaya mabuti na manigurado diba.