Navara owner escaping liability

[MoonbeamTURBO]

Hi guys!

I just wanna share something here. We Tsikoteers love our cars... and most of us drive defensively to avoid damaging our cars. Unfortunately, no matter how careful we are to our cars, there are times that other motorists bump into us.

Just last week, my mom was driving my Suzuki APV along EDSA. She was waiting at a U-Turn Slot and then "thump"... a Navara bumped my ride's rear bumper.

Ayun na, usap na sila. My mom told the driver/owner of the Navara that he hit the rear bumper of my car... and that Navara driver/owner still had the guts to say "Wala yan, maliit lang 'yan." (yung pagkasabi parang minamaliit un damage) Yeah, I know it's small, pero walang hiya naman dent yan kitang-kita! My mom said, "Oo para sa iyo wala iyan, pero ang anak ko maalaga sa kotse niya (something like that)."

And then the Navara owner said that it's alright, insurance na daw niya may sagot diyan. Then he gave my mom a calling card, tawagan nalang daw.

My mom told me the news the next morning and she gave me the calling card. Well, I said it's alright, I will try calling him.

Since that Saturday until today, he doesn't answer my calls. He answered my text message with "who r u?" (What the hell, right?) despite the fact I introduced myself to him. I called up his office and his secretary answered... "Sige sir sabihin ko sa kanya na tumawag siya sa iyo." And then I called the office back, the secretary said, "Sabi niya oo daw." Okay, where's the call? I tried calling his cell phone and still, no answer. Now I'm pissed!

Now this goes to show that the Navara owner is one incompetent a**hole trying to escape liability. (Asar, hindi na-damage Navara niya.) I'm only 19 but I know that liabilities MUST BE PAID. It wouldn't be much of a big deal if the one who bumped you will compensate for the damages incurred. If I was the Navara driver, I will be very much apologetic to the victim. But this guy has no guts (parang gusto yata umalis agad nung sa accident scene).

My mom wasn't able to get his plate number but I have his calling card. So, might as well put it here in cyberspace:

Mr. Ricardo Santos
General Manager, Flour Palace Marketing
0917-8991010

Main Office:
195-A 9th Avenue Extension, Kalookan City, Metro Manila, Philippines
Tel No 365-4590 / 365-4593
Fax No 365-4584

Warehouse:
East Canumay, Valenzuela, Metro Manila, Philippines

He's Chinese, about 30+ years old.
Those who are in the CAMANAVA area, be on the look-out.

[digitel]

I'm sorry to hear that sir, we are roughly on the same age, I'm just a little bit younger, and I understand what you feel, I really hope that the navara owner named Mr. Ricardo Santos will soon answer your calls. Sana po pala nakuha niyo yung plate number and na pa gawan muna ng police report bago umalis.

Paging Mr. Ricardo Santos! That might be the start of bad luck in your business! tsk..

I hate drivers that are like him, actually, everyone does!

[OldSchoolHack]

Unfortunately if you are in a traffic accident like what your mom was in, she should have gotten a police and had the proper police report prepared.

She did not. Had she done that it would have been easy to file in the small claims court (car accidents with an estimated damage less than P100,000.)

Now your mom is in the mercy of the other party.

Tip na lang sa lahat - pag kayo ay nasa aksidente, tumawag agad ng police at pagawa ng POLICE REPORT. Tapos file ninyo sa small claims court.

[Burai]

why not do something like this (nakaka irita nga naman talaga mga ganyang tao):

-google or do some extensive research muna about that guy's informations
-call the number again kunyari you're an applicant then gusto mo malaman address ng company na iyan but this time use another phone pang 'bait' sa kanila
-if being an applicant fails, isip ng alternative makuha lang address ng location to where that calling card belongs
-get the address
-go to the building/location to doublecheck if it is existing
-plan some by-bust operation (tama ba yung spelling?) with the cops and make some early arrangements
-mag sama ng pulis in an undercover or pulis in-disguise na kunyari e kasama mo lang na normal na tao para makapasok din siya.
-once na makita niyo, posasan niyo na then show your warrant of arrest kung possible. ipahiya niyo sa buong building like make a show ganun ganun or something like that na makuha lang attention ng mga tao sa paligid or inside that specific building mahalata lang siya
-give him some b**** slaps
the rest e sa tingin ko applied na sa court -if you're willing to go that far

[digitel]

Hmmm.. see, I am correct in some of my points, your mom should have gotten a police report likewise the scenario would be so different like what is really happening right now.

Try doing some of burai's tips, it might help a lot! Kung bakasyon mo naman at wala ka summer class ngayon, try looking for that man and bringing some police with you,

[Burai]

*double post - damn... server error*

[aejhayl17]

anung kulay ng navarra? maliit lang ang 9th ave. madaling makita yan main office nila.

[MoonbeamTURBO]

Guys! Thank you for your replies.

I passed by 9th Avenue yesterday.. di ba yung 9th ave extension yun yung bandang LRT line na? I wasn't able to see the number "195-A", but I think it's somewhere there (I saw number "192").

Yeah, sayang nga talaga. Mom should really have gotten the Navara's plate number and made a police report. Next time, we should take note of that procedure.

Come to think of it... why would he give us his contact details (complete with address) pero magtatago siya (though his secretary said that he's out of the office most of the time). Pwede kaya natin i-report auto niya sa LTO?

[jave]

Personally, nakaka-init ng dugo kapag may nagkabangga sa iyo ng maliit tapos sasabihan ka ng "maliit lang yan".

I'm always tempted to retort, "maliit pala ha? Gawin ko kaya sa kotse mo yan, lagyan ko ng yupi para quits tayo. Ano?"

Whatever happened to "I'm sorry, it's my fault. I'm offering to pay for the damages"? Kapag ganun nga, mas may chances ka pa na pagbibigyan ka ng nabangga mo kapag maliit lang talaga at not worth the hassle. Ngayon puro "Maliit lang yan. Ok lang yan. Wag na tayo magpapolicereport, hassle lang sa lahat, peperahan lang tayo ng pulis." Simpleng mali lang, ayaw aminin.

Kaya bulok tong bansa natin eh. Kung maliit na mali ay ayaw aminin, paano na kaya yung mga malalaking kagaguhan?

Something similar happened to me a few years back. The imbecile also managed to get away that time because I was driving an old, banged-up family car and was dead-tired and wanted nothing more than to go home and hit the sack. Now whenever I think about it, I always regretted that decision. I should've pushed through with their entire thing, even if the only reason for it was to waste the idiot's time.

[badsekktor]

Unfortunately if you are in a traffic accident like what your mom was in, she should have gotten a police and had the proper police report prepared.

She did not. Had she done that it would have been easy to file in the small claims court (car accidents with an estimated damage less than P100,000.)

Now your mom is in the mercy of the other party.

Tip na lang sa lahat - pag kayo ay nasa aksidente, tumawag agad ng police at pagawa ng POLICE REPORT. Tapos file ninyo sa small claims court.

yep i agree! medyo hassle lang pero if you are the aggravated party, ang police report ang depensa mo sa ganitong kaso. hindi naman pwedeng ireport mo lang sa LTO yan since walang police report na magpapatunay nung pangyayari.

sana hinayaan nyo magtraffic hanggang dumating ang pulis at maimbestigahan ng maayos. usually i-blotter yan then kapag pinirmahan saka lang irerelease yun license or yun sasakyan nung nakabangga

[javinjavril]

Personally, nakaka-init ng dugo kapag may nagkabangga sa iyo ng maliit tapos sasabihan ka ng "maliit lang yan".

I'm always tempted to retort, "maliit pala ha? Gawin ko kaya sa kotse mo yan, lagyan ko ng yupi para quits tayo. Ano?"

Whatever happened to "I'm sorry, it's my fault. I'm offering to pay for the damages"? Kapag ganun nga, mas may chances ka pa na pagbibigyan ka ng nabangga mo kapag maliit lang talaga at not worth the hassle. Ngayon puro "Maliit lang yan. Ok lang yan. Wag na tayo magpapolicereport, hassle lang sa lahat, peperahan lang tayo ng pulis." Simpleng mali lang, ayaw aminin.

Kaya bulok tong bansa natin eh. Kung maliit na mali ay ayaw aminin, paano na kaya yung mga malalaking kagaguhan?

Something similar happened to me a few years back. The imbecile also managed to get away that time because I was driving an old, banged-up family car and was dead-tired and wanted nothing more than to go home and hit the sack. Now whenever I think about it, I always regretted that decision. I should've pushed through with their entire thing, even if the only reason for it was to waste the idiot's time.

Tama ka diyan. The same thing also happened to me before. It was late at night while I was driving somewhere in EDSA-Balintawak, near the Nissan dealership. There was heavy traffic because 2 left lanes were blocked for LRT construction. While I was merging to the right, an AE101 Corolla taxi hit the lower-left part of my bumper. Syempre naramdaman ko natulak yung kotse ko, edi baba bintana tingin sa kanya. I was signalling him and telling him that he hit me. Pero walang imik itong si ugok driver. Nag-go na yung traffic at tinakbuhan ako ni loko. Ah ganun ah, hinabol ko din siya hanggang EDSA-Monumento kung saan siya nagbaba ng pasahero. I parked beside him and called his attention but wala parin. Ah ganun ah, ni-roadblock ko siya.

I told the taxi driver, "Manong, nabangga niyo 'ho ako."
At sabi ng driver na ito, "Ui, hindi ah!" (ah loko ka, defensive ka ah)
Sabi ko, "Anong hindi? Gusto niyo po ba tingnan yung tama niya sa sasakyan ko? Bumaba ka!"

We went to my ride...

"Manong, nakita niyo po ba ito? May gasgas."
Sabi ni manong driver, "Ui, wala ah!" (Naman eh, ano ka bulag? Tanggal yung pintura ng kotse ko!)
I said, "Anong wala? HAWAKAN MO IYAN! ANO TAWAG DIYAN? Halata naman na binangga mo ako eh, may damage din un bumper mo."
Taxi driver said, "Dati pa yun."
I said, "Naman eh. Dapat kasi, AYUS-AYUSIN MO KASI PAGMAMANEHO MO! TANDA MO NA HINDI KA PARIN MARUNONG MAG-MANEHO!"

At siya'y napatanga, nakatunganga nalang.
Pasalamat siya hindi ko siya pinagbayad. Pero dapat pinagbayad ko siya para mag-tanda (sayang!).

Sila na nakabangga sa iyo, defensive pa sila.

[jeDi13]

to TS, it's not that I'm discouraging you. but your case at this point seems to have very minimal success rate. you have no evidence that Ricardo Santos has really damaged your car. no pictures, no police report, no recorded conversation, but just a plain.. calling card.

i would just suggest that you charge this to experience, and move on. and then keep in mind that if there's an accident, it's important that you take pictures immediately, and don't move the vehicles. then call for police. usually, they will try to ask if it would be okay to both parties to just settle it. but if just one of the parties don't agree, then go for the police report. once you have a police report, you'll have a better chance of getting justice. but on this case, i would just charge it to experience.

[claRkEnt]

^ +1... very easy for him to deny ang claims mo.

Susi na lang katapat nyan tutal alam mo na kung saan ofc nya and di na makaganti yan kasi di ka naman nya kilala.

[MoonbeamTURBO]

to TS, it's not that I'm discouraging you. but your case at this point seems to have very minimal success rate. you have no evidence that Ricardo Santos has really damaged your car. no pictures, no police report, no recorded conversation, but just a plain.. calling card.

i would just suggest that you charge this to experience, and move on. and then keep in mind that if there's an accident, it's important that you take pictures immediately, and don't move the vehicles. then call for police. usually, they will try to ask if it would be okay to both parties to just settle it. but if just one of the parties don't agree, then go for the police report. once you have a police report, you'll have a better chance of getting justice. but on this case, i would just charge it to experience.

Nagmamadali yata yung nakabangga kaya hindi na nakapag-police report.

Medyo hinahayaan ko nalang din since nakakatamad habulin mga ganyan tao. Sayang lang oras ko sa kanya .

Good thing I wasn't driving my car that time, I could have been so pissed from what he said ("Maliit lang iyan.").

[RedHotBlood]

bro next time (pero wag naman sana) have a police write a report about it, eto naman agad ang SOP pag me ganyang aksidente, both of you will sign it to affirm na what is written really happened then sa station me salaysay pa kayo individually. Hirap na habulin yan and don't worry karma is just around the corner.

[RedHotBlood]

bro next time (pero wag naman sana) have a police write a report about it, eto naman agad ang SOP pag me ganyang aksidente, both of you will sign it to affirm na what is written really happened then sa station me salaysay pa kayo individually. Hirap na habulin yan and don't worry karma is just around the corner.

[JJGF]

bro mukhang papahirapan ka niyan.... chinese guy na may warehouse sa canumay at may main office pa sa ibang lugar? malamang anak ng owner yan...

mauuwi sa wala yan

sorry bro pero sa experience ko sa malalaki na ganyan, mapapagod ka lang...

[gigiman]

dun lang sa pagasta ng driver ng navarro alam mo na dapat POLICE REPORT na agad.. mga ganun tao tatakasan ang responsibilidad since inismall nila ang incident.. dapat sa mga ganun may mangyari.. para matuto..

[renzo_d10]

gigiman : Navara bro. Di navarro.

TS : Sorry to say but I guess you'll have to charge this to experience. Wala ka halos habol sakanya, he can easily deny the incident that happened. The proof cannot be based on your words and on the calling card that you are holding currently. Pwede niya sabihin na binigay niya lang sayo yun for some sort of reason.

Just let this incident be a lesson to you and to whoever is driving your vehicle. Just always remember that whenever you encounter this kind of incident again -, take pictures & make a police report. It may be a hassle on both parts but it's really the best way.

[oliver1013]

Learning experience bro, just move forward, life's like that and **** happens.