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    #41
    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_boy View Post
    Sa ibang bansa, nasa batas nila na pwede gumamit ng emergency blinking lights yung mga personal cars ng volunteer doctor and fireman.

    Parang ang laki ng galit mo sa mga volunteers ah
    Batas po yan sa ibang bansa. Na Pilipinas po tayo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confused shoes View Post
    Batas po yan sa ibang bansa. Na Pilipinas po tayo.
    Wala naman akong sinabi na gawin natin or pwede din sa atin.. Nagbibigay lang ako ng reference na sa ibang bansa pinapayagan ng government with some conditions..
    Last edited by crazy_boy; August 18th, 2012 at 09:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_boy View Post
    Wala naman akong sinabi na gawin natin or pwede din sa atin.. Nagbibigay lang ako ng reference na sa ibang bansa pinapayagan ng government with some conditions..
    In short, para nyo na rin sinabing wala sa batas ng Pilipinas na pwedeng gumamit ng blinkers ang mga volunteers. Kaya huwag na tayong pasaway.

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    #44
    Quote Originally Posted by confused shoes View Post
    In short, para nyo na rin sinabing wala sa batas ng Pilipinas na pwedeng gumamit ng blinkers ang mga volunteers. Kaya huwag na tayong pasaway.
    Hindi ko alam kung nasa batas ba ng Pilipinas yan o wala. Neutral ako sa issue na yan. Wag mo lagyan ng meaning yung sinasabi ko.
    Last edited by crazy_boy; August 18th, 2012 at 09:29 AM.

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    #45
    Quote Originally Posted by erick_214 View Post


    Yeah Right! yang mga grey areas na yan ang nagpapagulo lalo ng bansa natin eh. Sa dami ng butas ng batas eh makakakita at makakakita talaga ng butas. Kung gusto nating magbago ang bansa natin at maging matino ay dapat tayo sumunod kung anuman yung nakasusulat sa batas. Wala na kesyo paano kung ganito, paano kung ganun...

    Honestly, pag nagmamaneho kayo, iilang sasakyan lang ba nagyi-yield sa mga emergency vehicles? Kahit nga police car eh hindi na rin pinapansin eh...BAKIT? Dahil maraming driver ang hindi na alam kung ano ang pinagkaiba ng emergency at hindi. Maraming drive ang hindi nakakaalam kung totoo pa ba yan o hindi...
    Kahit saan ka magpunta may mga gray areas talaga kaya nga lagi mong tatandaan when in doubt always err on the side of caution.
    It starts din naman sa atin when one gives way to an emergency vehicle others will follow kaya kung walang nagbibigay ikaw ang magsimula.

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    #46
    Quote Originally Posted by renzo_d10 View Post
    Doc yung Lifeline rescue merong Chevrolet Spark, ano? Nakita ko yun days ago sa Ortigas. May blinker sa ibabaw pero nakapatay naman. Waiting patiently in traffic.

    picture c/o james deakin

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    #47
    Sabi ko nga sa earlier post eh pwede naman pag usapan ang mga ganitong issue sa magandang paraan. Hehe. No need to get rash about it guys.

    In that light, if we actually took the law to the letter it only says government ambulances and bfp firetrucks and police vehicles. So it means private fire trucks and ambulances are not included in that law. Oh no! Hehe. The private ambulance industry is a fast growing business nowadays, please apprehend us now.

    Yes that is the Lifeline spark. It is registered as a private vehicle with the LTO also. The ambucare mystery machine is still in the works but I doubt if it will be a small hatchback considering how overweight most of us are and that we operate in flood prone areas.

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    #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Bin Diesel View Post
    Kahit saan ka magpunta may mga gray areas talaga kaya nga lagi mong tatandaan when in doubt always err on the side of caution.
    It starts din naman sa atin when one gives way to an emergency vehicle others will follow kaya kung walang nagbibigay ikaw ang magsimula.
    Umikot lang yata, sir. Ayaw na nga magbigayan dahil sa mga pasaway. Kung walang pasaway, di walang problema sa daan.

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    #49
    Quote Originally Posted by confused shoes View Post
    Umikot lang yata, sir. Ayaw na nga magbigayan dahil sa mga pasaway. Kung walang pasaway, di walang problema sa daan.
    kung yan ang pananaw mo sa buhay well then good luck. every situation presents an opportunity to improve, di mawawala ang mga pasaway nasa syo na kung gusto mo tumulad sa kanila. sana kung dadating ang araw na maraming kumakain ng *** wag ka gumaya sa kanila.

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    #50
    Sarap sana magmaneho sa kalsada kung walang pasaway...Sana gawin nilang X50 ang presyo ng mga fines and penalties para magtino lahat...Hirap kasi sa atin kung makakalusot sa mali eh gagawan at gagawan talaga ng paraan...

    So pag private firetruck at ambulance eh pwedeng kumuha ng permit at maglagay ng blinkers at wang-wang? Anu-ano kaya mga requirements baka kasi kayo kong tapatan requirements nila eh magpapa-install din ako...

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    #51
    just install one if you really need one. at the end of the day, just be responsible for sa gagawin mo.
    katulad ni otep, kung sitahin sya okay lang. kaya nya ipaliwanag.
    kung tinging mo kaya mo rin get one.
    btw, i dont have blinkers and i dont mind cars or convoy with blinkers. tumatabi ako. di ko naman ikamamatay or malaking kawalan kung di ko pagbigyan. kargo na lang nila kung nanloloko lang sila using their blinkers. i believe in karma.

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    #52
    I work in the volunteer and private services. Wala pong paperworks or permit na pwedeng kuhanin sa local or national government or concerned agencies (LTO/NTC/etc.) regarding the installation of traffic control devices (lights and sirens). Just as what has been said in the previous posts, it is still a 'gray area'. I've been in the industry since 2007 and wala talaga kaming mapuntahan.

    Most of our units are also registered under the names of private individuals (e.g. the company president/brigade donor/owner of the fire truck or ambulance/etc.).

    And as posted, for our privately owned response and command units (including 2 wheelers) we are more concerned with the vehicles' and operators' safety when stopped and doing their job that's why we prefer vehicles to be prepared with traffic control and scene lighting. Blasting through traffic with lights and sirens isn't really much of our thing. It's a catch 22 anyway. Take too long and the people complain, run it code 3 (light and siren) and someone complains also. hehe.

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    #53
    Me during a big fire along Araneta/E.Rod talking to the EMS Unit regarding a patient. Yes, I arrived code 3 on my own vehicle since our trucks and ambulances were coming from Manila and I was coming from Q.C. That's my vehicle in the background. Given a choice I would have preferred to run it with one of our brigade units. But situations are less than ideal and sometimes you have to make do with what you have just to get your a$$ on the scene:


    More Volunteers with traffic control equipment (ipahuli niyo na lang kung ayaw niyo ang serbisyo nila). hehe.

    DFRW by 199 Off Road House:



    Ford Everest of United/REAVO:


    Ford Everest at fire scene at NIA Road Q.C.:


    Rav of San Juan Falcons responding on board his Ford Ranger:


    This Kia Besta is full of fire fighters and fire fighting gear when I saw them arrive at a fire scene in Valenzuela:

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    #54
    Potrero unit:


    Motorcycle crash along Commonwealth Avenue. Our unit was still at a flower offering at a funeral chapel so I ran the call. They were already on scene when this photo was snapped:


    The Suzuki Swift Crash on EDSA. Taken while I was figuring out a way to open the wrecked door and cut power while waiting for responding units to arrive:


    Fire call at Addition Hills. I was in San Juan on my way to Greenhills SC when a call to verify (so that trucks can be dispatched) came in. Here is my vehicle arriving:


    And this is what I saw:


    Fire verified = fire trucks dispatched.

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    #55
    madami talaga abusado sa wangwang pero for me, pag may wangwang, tumatabi ako out of courtesy kahit sa ambulance pa ng punenarya.

    minsan talaga nakakainis tulad ng kanina. Ambulance ng hospital, pa u-turn na ako sa edsa q. Ave tapos may padating na ambulance. akala nya ata tutuloy ako kaya nag highbeam and nag short shot ng wangwang. pinadaan ko lang kaya nga lang nainis lang ako kasi lumiko lang siya papuntang drive thru ng mcdo... mga abusado talaga... haay :-(

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    #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Bin Diesel View Post
    kung yan ang pananaw mo sa buhay well then good luck. every situation presents an opportunity to improve, di mawawala ang mga pasaway nasa syo na kung gusto mo tumulad sa kanila. sana kung dadating ang araw na maraming kumakain ng *** wag ka gumaya sa kanila.
    Ang aking pananaw sa buhay ay kung ano ang batas, sumunod tayo para hindi naman sayang ang mga pinapasweldo natin sa mga mambabatas. Ewan lang sa inyo kung alam nyo ang salitang "batas".

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    #57
    Quote Originally Posted by confused shoes View Post
    Ang aking pananaw sa buhay ay kung ano ang batas, sumunod tayo para hindi naman sayang ang mga pinapasweldo natin sa mga mambabatas. Ewan lang sa inyo kung alam nyo ang salitang "batas".
    Ay sinabi ba akong wag ka sumunod sa batas? Sinasabi ko nga gawin natin ang tama at hindi kung ano ang mali na ginagawa ng iba.

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    #58
    Quote Originally Posted by erick_214 View Post
    So pag private firetruck at ambulance eh pwedeng kumuha ng permit at maglagay ng blinkers at wang-wang? Anu-ano kaya mga requirements baka kasi kayo kong tapatan requirements nila eh magpapa-install din ako...
    Nadali mo, sir!

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    #59
    atleast those volunteers are doing something for our people and country while you guys saying "daang matuwid" at sumunod sa batas aren't doing anything but whine.:cry2: with out the volunteers tingnan natin kung ano mang yari sa bansa natin, di naman kaya ng governemnt natin rumisponde sa lahat ng emergency. actually mas nakaka tulong pa mga volunteers kesa sa mga tao ng government na dapat sila ang gumawa non at madalas mas qualified pa sila, pati pag tiningnan mo yung mga government ambulance pa ang abusado sa wang wang mga volunteers pag may emergency lang talaga. so have a little respect for them. kung gusto mo bumili at mag kabit ng wang wang di bumili ka kesa nag rereklamo kayo dito eh wala naman kayo natutulong. para kayong mga leftist na panay reklamo pero wala naman ginagawa para maka tulong. jan kasi kayo magaling mag reklamo pero mga wala naman silbi.
    Last edited by foresterx; August 20th, 2012 at 02:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OTEP View Post
    Me during a big fire along Araneta/E.Rod talking to the EMS Unit regarding a patient. Yes, I arrived code 3 on my own vehicle since our trucks and ambulances were coming from Manila and I was coming from Q.C. That's my vehicle in the background. Given a choice I would have preferred to run it with one of our brigade units. But situations are less than ideal and sometimes you have to make do with what you have just to get your a$$ on the scene:


    More Volunteers with traffic control equipment (ipahuli niyo na lang kung ayaw niyo ang serbisyo nila). hehe.

    DFRW by 199 Off Road House:



    Ford Everest of United/REAVO:


    Ford Everest at fire scene at NIA Road Q.C.:


    Rav of San Juan Falcons responding on board his Ford Ranger:


    This Kia Besta is full of fire fighters and fire fighting gear when I saw them arrive at a fire scene in Valenzuela:
    Those were properly marked vehicles so blinker is necessary.

    Ang problema kasi pag dating sa issue regarding blinkers eh sobrang naabuso to eh. Kaya ayan nadamay ang mga dapat gumagamit.

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