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    Agree. There is no point in not letting them pass. However the predicament that sparked the issue was that according to the owners, the vehicle in question was unable to clear a path because traffic was at a standstill and there was a road digging (which was enclosed in a raised barrier) on the adjacent lane.

    Pano kung tayo naman ang nasa ganung sitwasyon at biglang dumating ang PSG convoy? Tatawag na tayo in advanced at makikipag-appointment sa mga latero at pintor natin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OTEP
    Agree. There is no point in not letting them pass. However the predicament that sparked the issue was that according to the owners, the vehicle in question was unable to clear a path because traffic was at a standstill and there was a road digging (which was enclosed in a raised barrier) on the adjacent lane.

    Pano kung tayo naman ang nasa ganung sitwasyon at biglang dumating ang PSG convoy? Tatawag na tayo in advanced at makikipag-appointment sa mga latero at pintor natin?
    otep, madami kasi sa atin, kapag nakakarinig na ng siren, lalo pang gustong bilisan para hindi maabutan. maybe ganyan ang nangyari dun sa van, tapos naabutan sya sa alanganin na pwesto, ayun natadyakan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi
    otep, madami kasi sa atin, kapag nakakarinig na ng siren, lalo pang gustong bilisan para hindi maabutan.
    ahehehe....may tumama sa aking bato galing sa langit...san kaya galing yun?

    although in my defense kapag naabutan ako ng police, fire truck o ambulansya tabi agad. ;)

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    There are situations where only the PSG peeps can answer. They are trained. I'm sure they have their reasons. Does "collateral damage" fit? Just a query.

    Probabaly same thing in the medical field. In that field there are situations that only doctors can answer and understand opposing to the leyman.

    Mostly media hypen things up.

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    Why doesn't the President get a Presidential helicopter if she's in that much of a hurry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jun aka Pekto
    Why doesn't the President get a Presidential helicopter if she's in that much of a hurry?
    baka kasi sa squatters area pupunta, magliliparan yung mga bahay dun kapag chopper ang gagamitin nya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jun aka Pekto
    Why doesn't the President get a Presidential helicopter if she's in that much of a hurry?
    it only takes one very-high-powered gun to bring it down...

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    they do it because they know they can get away with it. buhay 3rd world: madaming gago kase madaming nagpapagago

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    Quote Originally Posted by woulfe27
    they do it because they know they can get away with it. buhay 3rd world: madaming gago kase madaming nagpapagago
    if you were in that situation, what will you do? insist on your rights or magpapagago din?
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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi
    if you were in that situation, what will you do? insist on your rights or magpapagago din?
    kukuhanan ko ng pics at ipapadala ko sa friends ko sa media. at pag nagharap harap na, then insist on my rights bwehehehe

    I know this is not an accurate analogy but i've did this before to a large insurance firm na itinakbo yung pera ko at di pinapansin yung complaint ko. I asked my friends in the media to call them, i called up their head office in NY, then I asked my dad's lawyer to call their corp comm officer. after a few days their legal department called me up and apologized. might work with men in uniform, too. who knows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by woulfe27

    kukuhanan ko ng pics at ipapadala ko sa friends ko sa media. at pag nagharap harap na, then insist on my rights bwehehehe

    I know this is not an accurate analogy but i've did this before to a large insurance firm na itinakbo yung pera ko at di pinapansin yung complaint ko. I asked my friends in the media to call them, i called up their head office in NY, then I asked my dad's lawyer to call their corp comm officer. after a few days their legal department called me up and apologized. might work with men in uniform, too. who knows?
    Wow bigat nun dude. Gooduck!

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    Psg have the right to do so if hindi ka tumabi, they can even shoot you. any delay you cause could be a threat to the life of the president, charles de gaulle was spared 4 times because hindi siya naharang ng mga assasins, what if kung si gma is ma-harang and mapatay? eh di chaos yun... naninigurado lang ang psg, trabaho lang walang personalan...

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    PSG's job: to save the president's life at all costs... even its your life or your job... even yun pride and dignity mo ang kapalit...

    i've seen them work. and i think they are doing their job pretty well, the mere fact na buhay si gma and no close encounters means na okay sila.

    fyi: maraming assasination attempts kay gma, sa mga generals, etc... na-counter lang ng psg before it happens, no media hype dapat, kung hindi they wouldnt be able to catch the next attempt...

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    Ponder on this:

    "In the real world people only remember the goal that went in, we forget or even dont mind how many shots were blocked"

    Nobody likes to see a goal shot on their shift. (Im talking about the PSG's job per se).

    Lalim ba.... dami kasing napapanood na TV eh.

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    May nakaisip ba kung bakit in that "ma-traffic na may digging kaya nowhere to go" location e only the van was out of place and thus, tinadyak? Ma-traffic meaning madaming ibang motorists and yet only the one single van was out of place... hmmm, parang 3rd lane yung labas nun sakin.

    Kung wala talaga space lumusot e di kinaladkad na yan van. I've seen it happen sa CB armored trucks, may bobong Exped na ayaw bumigay, ayun binangga't kinaladkad ng CB armored truck mga 10-20 meters. Flat 2 tires and sabog entire side, napatawa lahat ng mga tambay. Serves him right IMO.

    Pero IMO, mali yung tadyak, nakalusot naman e. Dapat yung ginawa e yung hagad, mag-detach sa convoy and i-aresto yung van for obstruction... Naku mas malaki perwisyo nun kesa tadyak (the police can legally hold you for 24 hours w/o charge)... Yun lang, to cover that scenario, tataas cost kasi dadami yung hagad para di ma-weaken yung security...

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    Ano yung "IMO"?

    Pasensya na ha.

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    In My Opinion po sir.

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    Ah, ok.

    Now I know. Salamat.

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    sometimes its the fault of the motrist also, we are not that disciplined enough to move aside when there are emergencies or the presidents convoy, as Otep mentioned sa ibang countries walang problema sa mga convoy kase when the drivers hear the wang wang they give way right away, ang iba sa atin ay mga usisero pa.

    pag palagi naman ni GMA gagamitin ang helicopter sabihin naman natin na sinusunog ya lang pera natin mga taxpayers. ay ang pinoy talaga!

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    Abusado talaga mga yan. Last month may nangyari dito sa loob ng malacanang complex na yung PSG pinagtatadyakan yung kotse ng isang matanda. Pero nung nagreklamo, wala daw ganun na nangyari. Nung HS ako, nawitness ko talaga sa harap ko to. Yung bata na tumatawid (naka pangkinder na uniform) nasagasaan ng PSG na naka motor. Buti na lang pinatumba ng PSG yung motor nya nung malayo pa kaya medyo mahina na yung impact. Pero bumagsak pa rin talga yung bata and nakaladkad ng mga 2 meters. Si GMA naman nag-ovetake lang dun sa nakaharang na motor and pinabayaan. Tinayo lang nung PSG yung bata then humabol na sa escort.

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