Dump truck collided with jeep full of kids :(

[theveed]

Everytime sumasakay ako sa jeep kinakabahan ako kung may truck akong nakikita sa likod... eek...

[batang_raon14]

Bakit yung driver lang? Mas malaking kasalanan yung may ari ng truck mismo! Puro kita lang ang iniisip! Kawawa lang yung driver dahil siya yung sumalo ng kagagaguhan ng amo niya.

that the owner of the truck prioritizes profit more than investing on a safe truck.

I don't think we have to generalize... or for the part of it, no one has to.

Here's our operating procedure in our trucking business:

1. The truck driver reports every morning about his expenses and possible truck parts that need be replaced. From tire caps to bulbs up to braking, torque rod, etc. This is to ensure our trucks are running in safe condition.

2. In case of sudden truck breakdown (like naputulan ng moelye), it's automatic, TRIPS ARE CANCELLED. An order is an order at wala pa naman kaming driver na sumubok lumabag dahil ayaw rin naman nilang matanggal. Pinapatabi na lang namin sa safe na lugar at pupuntahan namin ASAP regardless if madaling araw o tanghaling tapat na.

3. Two (2) experience truck drivers per truck. STRICT RULE: Tulog ang isa habang nagmamaneho ang isa. Pag inaantok na ung nagmamaneho, gisingin ung natutulog at palit sila.

4. Wage is fair. Di namin tinitipid ang driver sa sahod, they deserve it. They work well, we pay them well. Naka-20T sila more or less a month samen. Kung sa iba, half lang nun ang nakukuha nila. Plus, this removes the thought of kickbacking from their minds.

5. Regardless kung masyado na kaming napapakamot ng ulo at times na sunod-sunod ang pagawa, wala kaming paki. We keep our cool as owners. Safety is our top priority. Dahil pag may bumigay at magkaaksidente, di lang kami ang damay, pati driver at ung mababangga kasali. Kami sasagot nun which is obviously more expensive than keeping our trucks in good running condition.

6. 2nd priority lang ang kita. Pag mukhang pera ka, kawawa sayo ang driver at ang truck dahil ang lagi mo nalang babanggitin e "Wala na tayong kita, ayusin nyo naman!"

7. All income and expenses are accounted for.

8. Tama lang ang measurements ng dumpbox ng mga trucks namin. Hindi kasing lapad at taas ng sa na-involve sa accident. Yang mga ganyan ang dumpbox takaw-huli sa NLEX. Trucks namin dere-deretso lang dun.

Sadly, all your points are considered and factual. Indeed, may mga owner nga ng truck na pera na lang iniisip. Pero, you should try to relate. What if yung owner ng truck na un eh ung driver rin mismo? Panghanap buhay nya ang truck at sinisistentuhan nya pa pamilya nya. Nandun lahat ng pressure, lalo na kung may katandaan na ung trak at madalas ng bumibigay. Pati gulong laging nafa-flat (other truckings walang paki sa gulong, hindi nagpapalit dahil isang gulong na nylon palang is 12T na). Imagine kung ganun buhay nyo, kapit patalim? Mahirap di ba?

Pero tama pa rin talaga... sa incident na 'to, dapat kung may available space pa para makakabig sa tabi ng daan, dapat kinabig na lang ng driver ng truck sa gilid ung sasakyan nya (kung clear ang gilid) at poste na lang o ibang non-living objects ang binangga.

Sensya na if I can't side with one point only. There are factors in this case and to generalize does not really explain things out IMO. Peace to all =D

[Benji_DCP]

tsk tsk, the trucks on our roads are all rolling coffins, so with our jeeps, jeepneys, tricycles. Blame in on our system, were we have such a low regard for safety on the road.

[1D4LV]

tsk tsk, the trucks on our roads are all rolling coffins, so with our jeeps, jeepneys, tricycles. Blame in on our system, were we have such a low regard for safety on the road.

medyo OT but related....

not only are the jeeps, tricycles and buses rolling coffins. but also our fighter planes, our military hardware like helicopters and also the PNR trains.

you are right, it has got to have something to do with the system.

[oldblue]

tsk tsk, the trucks on our roads are all rolling coffins, so with our jeeps, jeepneys, tricycles. Blame in on our system, were we have such a low regard for safety on the road.

ironically, lahat yata ng involved sa accident na ito ay rolling coffins: dump truck, owner jeep, jeepney, motorcycle and another truck that carries water rationing.

may nadale by private cars?

[ssaloon]

ganito talaga sa pinas... pag may lagay, may lusot. kaya dami nakakalusot na hindi road worthy vehicles sa atin...

RIP to those who died a senseless death...

[batang_raon14]

it makes responsible truck owners like batang_raon14 at a cost disadvantage over those reckless owners that indulge in maintenance short cuts and cheap untrained truck drivers.

Actually the moment their drivers fall asleep and crash, they're the ones at a cost disadvantage. We don't treat our trucking as our primary source of income to avoid getting frustrated over continouos maintenance expenses though we still give it utmost attention DAILY. We even provide at PhP 1000.00 or more, lower than the prices of other trucking companies. It's all down to the driver's discipline (can follow instructions,etc.)naman and the owner's foresight (how he sees what may and what could happen) on things.

Marami talagang road hazards sa daan natin, but we just have to bare with it till the system goes for a massive change. If it DOES head for a massive change that is. PLUS, even up to now the labor force isn't doing anything much in wage increase and the LTO or LTFRB has failed for several years to implement banning of vehicles not running on working condition.

Poverty+non-implementation of the law=CHAOS. just my .02

[bunge]

According sa news, sinadya daw ng truck driver na ibangga na lang sa owner ang truck para mapahinto nya ang nawalan nyang prenong sasakyan. di nya alam talaga ang tamang procedure. punong puno ng graba o buhangin ang truck nya, so sobrang bigat, di talaga hihinto yon basta-basta kahit ibangga pa nya sa kapwa truck din.

[Fast Eddie]

According sa news, sinadya daw ng truck driver na ibangga na lang sa owner ang truck para mapahinto nya ang nawalan nyang prenong sasakyan. di nya alam talaga ang tamang procedure. punong puno ng graba o buhangin ang truck nya, so sobrang bigat, di talaga hihinto yon basta-basta kahit ibangga pa nya sa kapwa truck din.

problema sa mga karamihan sa driver sa atin, wala silang
"emergency safety procudure"na itinutoro. o kung meron man
hindi nila pinag-aaralan o itinuturo kung meron mga emergencing
sitwasyon na ganoon.

naisip ko, siguro ang dapat ginawa ng driver biglang "turn off"
nya yung susi nya, para huminto na lang yung truck nya. o kaya
naman isaksak nya sa "primera o kaya park" sabay patay sa ignition
key para bumagal yung truck. siguro kung ganito yung ginawa
nung truck driver, siguro naiwasan nyang ganoon kalaking aksidente.

kaya lang siguro nag panick yung driver kaya hindi nya alam
kung anong gagawin nya sa sandaling yun. so ayun binanga
na lang sa maraming sasakyan.

[Flagg]

Talagang fault ng driver & company yan (I noticed logo ng malaking construction company).

Sa mga truck namin, only 1 driver per truck, para walang turuan. Any problem outside wear & tear, sila babayad. Kahit konting gasgas sa bumper, may 2 hour seminar + written explanation, on top of the bayad.

Kung ayaw gawin ng gobyerno e kami nalang. I noticed yung pinaka-ayaw ng mga driver e yung written explanation... Theory ko, para sa kanila parang test sa school yon... ehehe. If anyone reports them speeding, written uli. If sa weekly inspection may kalbong tires or other worn items unreplaced, write... Drivers who allow overloading, write uli... Kung talagang tigas ulo, required 2 page essay... Very effective po itong written explanation in lowering repair & maintenance costs as well as avoiding accidents. In exchange, ganda sweldo nila.

Kung makita mo 1976 Elf namin, parang brand new (pwera upuan, iba-iba na upholstery)...

So, mas malaki pa kasalanan ng company na yan. Konting sipag & consideration lang naman ang kailangan e.

OT: fafa Glenn, baka needed sa charity thread mo e pix mo nung nahuli ka ng pulis... ahihi.

[nugundam93]

HOLY SCHAT.

dapat instant garote sa truck driver. kawawa naman lahat ng napatay niya.

[ts1n1ta]

whoa.

prayers to those who died...

[bajumbo]

kaya ako kapag may nakakasabay na truck sa kalye pinapadaan ko na lang... mahirap na madisgrasya.... ang usual na explanasyon nila about sa preno.... gasgas ng rason ginagamit pa rin...

[Alpha_One]

Safety does not primarily rely on seatbelts. Or airbags. Or crumple zones and whatnot. For a vehicle to be safe, first it must work. What does that mean? Well, a vehicle has a few parts that must be present for a vehicle to function:

-Engine and drivetrain, which makes it go.
-Brakes, which makes it stop.
-Steering, which points the vehicle to where it should be going.
-Wheels/tires, which connects the above to the road and make them work.
-Some sort of chassis and/or bodywork to hold the above together.
-And crucially, the driver, which will be in charge of the engine, drivetrain, brakes, and steering.

If any of the above are not in top condition, you have an unsafe/unroadworthy vehicle, and shouldn't be running. Obviously a car that has a dead engine won't run, but an engine that dies at cruising speed is EXTREMELY dangerous to the driver and other motorists.

[Bogeyman]

Nabasa ko kanina na wala daw maaasahang assistance sa LTFRB yung mga sakay nung owner-type school service, kasi hindi daw registered sa ahensiya yung sasakyan.

[theveed]

That's a private jeep not public, so anong kinalaman ng LTFRB dito?

[Bogeyman]

That's a private jeep not public, so anong kinalaman ng LTFRB dito?

I guess they consider school service vehicles as 'for hire', since parents pay the owner/operator to ferry their children to and from school.

[BlueBimmer]

onga hmm

[theveed]

according to Woulfe (who saw the incident first hand) di daw school bus service eh, mali nga nareport sa STAR na passenger jeepney eh owner jeep lang sya talaga.

[OTO]

So long as people use being "poor" as an excuse not to enforce health & safety laws these events will always happen.

1. Defensive driving.
2. Safety Equipment.
3. Road-legal (by Western standards) rides
4. Proper (by Western standards) driving training
5. Sober & alert drivers.
6. Proper (by Western standars) roads & signs
7. Traffic enforces interested in fully implementing road rules to all drivers with no bias or exceptions.

Sa huli ang pagsisisi.