Dump truck collided with jeep full of kids :(

[Fast Eddie]

I do not want to turn this into a religious debate pero i can't help but notice the irony...hindi ka pala naniniwala sa Diyos, bakit Siya agad sinisi mo? It simply means deep within, you still believe there is a GOD. Ayaw mo lang i acknowledge dahil may unmet expectations ka siguro. I hope you wont take offense...opinion ko yun. And I cannot let anyone simply degrade my GOD who I firmly believe. Nakakaawa talaga yung mga naaksidente. Pero mas nakakaawa yung mga taong hindi na naniniwala sa DIYOS, minumura pa. Try reading the bible, mangingilabot ka sa consequence ng ginawa mong pagmumura. Don't bother to respond pare, last post ko na dito regarding the subject. Sabi ko nga, ayaw kong maging religious debate ito. MAy God have mercy on your soul! Sorry sa moderator...hindi ko lang po mapalampas...

that person should be looking at this window.

:king: "Try Jesus, or the devil can always take you back." :devil:

[docgorio]

Being a doctor I don't mind seeing dead adults but dead children just breaks my heart...

[1D4LV]

****! isa lang masasabi ko. yung mga t*r*nta*d0ng driver na yan dapat yan pinapatay sa bugbog.

in the first place, dapat alam nila na wala sa kundisyon sasakyan nila bago nila ilabas, at the same time, ipaayos muna nila para hindi makaabala ng iba.

kawawa yung mga bata. lives wasted for a foolishness of one.

[ILuvDetailing]

Innoko, please don't hijack this thread, stick with the topic at hand. Respect other peoples beliefs thats all I can say.

in the first place, dapat alam nila na wala sa kundisyon sasakyan nila bago nila ilabas, at the same time, ipaayos muna nila para hindi makaabala ng iba.

Yun ang problema, wala na sa condition ang mga sasakyan nila ang bibilis pa nilang humarurot nak ng weteng mga taong yan.

[FrankDrebin]

Bakit yung driver lang? Mas malaking kasalanan yung may ari ng truck mismo! Puro kita lang ang iniisip! Kawawa lang yung driver dahil siya yung sumalo ng kagagaguhan ng amo niya.

[falken]

Bakit yung driver lang? Mas malaking kasalanan yung may ari ng truck mismo! Puro kita lang ang iniisip! Kawawa lang yung driver dahil siya yung sumalo ng kagagaguhan ng amo niya.

Yeah, kung ayaw gumastos sa maintenance ang may ari ng truck, wala ring magagawa ang driver. As batang raon14 pointed out mas mataas ang dumpbox ng truck, so there's a possibility that the truck is overloaded, which could explain why the brakes failed.

[ILuvDetailing]

Well you can include the Land Transportation Office, Police, MMDA, and the local Government in your list, why? Because they don't enforce strict safety guidelines for our vehicles, too much leeway for public transport vehicles, its too easy to get a license here in our beloved country, kahit mga bulag nakakakuha ng drivers license. What do you get when you combine that with negligent drivers and owners of these vehicles... Accidents like this which can be prevented.

[cardo]

Well you can include the Land Transportation Office, Police, MMDA, and the local Government in your list, why? Because they don't enforce strict safety guidelines for our vehicles, too much leeway for public transport vehicles, its too easy to get a license here in our beloved country, kahit mga bulag nakakakuha ng drivers license. What do you get when you combine that with negligent drivers and owners of these vehicles... Accidents like this which can be prevented.

pede rin natin isama yun manufacturer ng jeepney since I think jeepneys or owner type jeeps don't conform to any kind of safety rating like a crash test or something

[swordsman]

sumpa na rin natin mga may-ari nung truck. hehe. o kung pwede masama sa demanda, sana isama na rin. isama na rin nati ang LTO. yong din pamahalaan dyan sa antipolo kasi looking at the statistics na pinakita ng tv patrol, talaga namang marami pa ang aksidente dyan sa isang buwan kesa sa naipasang batas sa senado sa buong session nila, wala pa rin yatang ginagawang safety measures dyan.

pero karamihan talaga sa mga drivers na yan, barumbado kung mag-drive sa kalye, kahit na alam nila na kulang sa maintenance ang truck nila at sa laki nilang yon, mas malaking pinsala ang magagawa nila sa mga kasama nila sa kalsada.

[mazdamazda]

I'll lock this thread up if this turns into a religious debate.

An accident is an accident. We will never really know what caused it... if it was a genuine brake failure or negligence on the part of the truck driver and/or owner.

May those who died RIP.

But... I think we are overreacting... many more die each day needlessly (hunger / sickness) and this can be prevented. I remember Glennster's post here about helping a poor family in the province, only a few posted a reply while in contrast threads about half-naked girls are being swamped with replies.

[GlennSter]

But... I think we are overreacting... many more die each day needlessly (hunger / sickness) and this can be prevented. I remember Glennster's post here about helping a poor family in the province, only a few posted a reply while in contrast threads about half-naked girls are being swamped with replies.

so sad..it is.

[1D4LV]

I'll lock this thread up if this turns into a religious debate.

An accident is an accident. We will never really know what caused it... if it was a genuine brake failure or negligence on the part of the truck driver and/or owner.

May those who died RIP.

But... I think we are overreacting... many more die each day needlessly (hunger / sickness) and this can be prevented. I remember Glennster's post here about helping a poor family in the province, only a few posted a reply while in contrast threads about half-naked girls are being swamped with replies.

OT: mazda2, san yung thread about the half-naked girls? di ko makita eh.

[badkuk]

this kinda reminds me of the idiot taxi driver that drove me home; some people just can't resist pushing their luck -- until it runs out.

[Eismann]

Right on sir mazda...let's look at things rationally here. May aksidente and may causalties, investigation should yield preventive measures to avert these accidents in the future.

1 suggestion....be strict on trucks drivability and road worthiness. Malaking maitulong ng LTO dito....sa SLEX, most accidents involving truck are due to poor maintenance. Dapat mahigpit sa renewal ng trucks/buses registration...lalo yung mga payloaders.

[theveed]

Pareng Eismann: Kung staying on the right lane nga lang di maenforce sa mga trucks safety pa hehe.

Napapadaan ba kayo sa mga truck routes pag gabi, yung tipong makikita mo 3-6 trucks from the same company nagcoconvoy, grabe di talaga prumepreno kahit red light na basta magkakadikit sila tapos ang bibilis pa takbo.

I remember a few years back galing akong office (Near Robinson's Galleria) going home (via Ortigas), nasa stoplight kami ng Meralco/Ortigas and green light na kami heading east, after a few seconds (about 5-7 cars na nakatawid nun) an 8-dumptruck convoy sped from Ortigas turning left to meralco at around 60kph as in dikit dikit sila, muntik na masagi mga kotse nun.

[badsekktor]

RIP to those who died on that accident.... sad to say... if rules and regulations will be strictly implemented here in the phil.... i guess most drivers would lose their license.... now how many here have acquired their license without resorting to red tape... i just wonder....

[Eismann]

Problema pa malaki dyan yung mga defective parklights nila....this is a true story.....a friend of mine crashed to a slow running truck with no taillights at SLEX a few years ago. May kasalana din sya coz it was past 2am and he came from a drinking binge at Dencio's driving his revo...chang'na yung revo nya after the collision naging liteace....as in napitpit yung hood against the truck..he was lucky to survive that one.

[bender]

Why does it take events like this unfortunate accident to bring attention to our flawed vehicle regulation practices? Personally, i have always tried to incorporate the results of my failures into changes to prevent their reoccurrence. That's why i always observe traffic signals even if the vehicles behind me are honking their horns as i once failed to see a cop who was hiding at a corner in order to apprehend drivers trying to beat the red light. Although we can find fault with the motives of the people who are enforcing the regulations, the regulations regarding road and vehicle use are there for a reason and are universally practiced.
When i read the papers or watch the news, i always pay close attention to the reports of traffic violations in foreign countries. I see that they would apprehend motorcycles for driving outside the proper lane, impound unsafe vehicles, ban or revoke driver licenses of drunk drivers whoever they are,etc. I remember the time i rode a bus in Atlanta and tried to get off outside of a designated bus stop, the driver refused and told me that he would lose his job if he did.
True, accidents still regularly occur whether the regulations are strictly enforced or not. However, the type of accidents like this dump truck are preventable if proper driver training and vehicle maintenance rules were followed. That is the crucial difference in this case.

[cardo]

Why does it take events like this unfortunate accident to bring attention to our flawed vehicle regulation practices? Personally, i have always tried to incorporate the results of my failures into changes to prevent their reoccurrence.

good for you, thats a good way to look at life. we fail but more important we learn from it. we anticipate the risks the might happen, we dont wait for the risk to happen and put mitigation plan in place to lessen the risk from happening or its impact should it happen.

but then again, some people have different priorities and outlook on life so they anticipate risks or mitigate them differently. some just dont do anything at all they sit on their hands and blame others hehehe.

It maybe, just maybe, that the owner of the truck prioritizes profit more than investing on a safe truck. so he just accepts the risk of an accident that might happen - he just get TPL for the truck and not the proper insurance. he prioritizes profit instead over investing on safety training of the driver. it also could be that the owner of the truck just didnot look at the legal side of this business, what would happen if his driver broke the law? hehehe so I think obeying laws or not, its up to the individual and maturity of the person. if the owner of the truck was mature enough to consider his responsibilities to his environment he would invest on safety training of his driver, insurance and safety precautions of his truck or business. if the truck driver was mature enough to think of the consequences that would arise from driving a faulty truck, he would not have driven it that day. - it goes back to the risks. if he knows there is a high risk of an accident happening by driving a faulty truck in an area where traffic volume is high, and that the impact/result of that accident is people getting killed, he would've reconsidered driving the truck. he would've used another truck. its not rocket science. he's not a child. hes an adult who can think for himself. he could've persuaded his boss and reported the faulty truck, got it fixed etc. he could've done anything. but he choose or his boss choose not to. its either they did'nt care or did'nt put thought into it and just accepted the risk of the accident that might happen(well it did happen). bahala na kung baga... but then again we never know what trully happend.

[bender]

It maybe, just maybe, that the owner of the truck prioritizes profit more than investing on a safe truck. so he just accepts the risk of an accident that might happen - he just get TPL for the truck and not the proper insurance. he prioritizes profit instead over investing on safety training of the driver. it also could be that the owner of the truck just didnot look at the legal side of this business, what would happen if his driver broke the law?

I agree with your points about the view of truck owners. However, all businesses have to consider government rules and regulations that pertain to their business as well as the need to earn a profit. The regulations are supposed to guide businesses away from risky behavior by penalizing them for their noncompliance.
By not enforcing the rules, it makes responsible truck owners like batang_raon14 at a cost disadvantage over those reckless owners that indulge in maintenance short cuts and cheap untrained truck drivers. The same reason applies to why we have a lot of unsafe buses. No bus owner wants to invest in new buses and incur high capital spending when his competitors simply maintain their old ones.