d*mn kids on scooters!!

[Kamui]

Yup... I rarely see scooters / bikes using their signal light properly. Though for cars, medyo marami rami na rin ang gumagamit ng signal lights.

Kahit sa NLEX ganyan din... some big bikes would lane split at 100kph!

Im not really sure about car drivers using their signal lights properly. Bikers are no better here also. In a day I could probably count the number of times I see a car driver or biker properly signal when overtaking or before taking a curve in an intersection. Its just how I think people here do things. I would bet a lot of Filipino drivers would fail if they took a licence exam in the U.S. or Japan. Instructors are very strict with the proper use of mirrors and signals.

I find it quite hard to apply the driving/riding style I used in the U.S. here in the Philippines. The conditions are just too different. And the bad part is, its the Filipino driver/biker who gets mad at me when he is the one not following the rules. I can't count the amount of times I've had car drivers try to force me off my lane while I'm riding a bike. Maybe its cuz they think they own the roads that they feel obligated to squeeze a person riding a motorbike off to the side of the road. And they do this while I'm travelling at 100 kph.

For me its not the vehicle thats the problem, it's the driver/rider. Metro Manila is filled with these reckless people.

[BlueGirl]

madami din akong masasamang experiences sa ganyan..pero walang magawa kailangan tayo mag co-exist sa kalye..nakakainis lang kasi yung iba ang yabang pa eh...pasencya na baka may umaway sakin..nagkataon lang hindi maganda naging experience ko sa kanila..

[picantorange]

I've been cut by these teen riders (most of whom do not even seem to have a drivers license) like a million times. The most recent encounter, which was the closest, was when a girl (who looked 15 or 16) and a passenger both with no helmet on tried to overtake, tapos alanganin, biglang nag-cut kase counterflow sya. Had to brake hard para lang hindi ko sya masagasaan. After that, nag-promise na ko sa sarili ko, lahat ng magka-cut sa akin na tatanga tanga, hindi ko peprenuhan. Bahala sila sa buhay nila kung masagasaan sila at magkalasug-lasog sila o mamatay. Tanga sila, problema nila.

[claRkEnt]

After that, nag-promise na ko sa sarili ko, lahat ng magka-cut sa akin na tatanga tanga, hindi ko peprenuhan. Bahala sila sa buhay nila kung masagasaan sila at magkalasug-lasog sila o mamatay. Tanga sila, problema nila.

sir, cool ka lang...hehehe

[FrankDrebin]

After that, nag-promise na ko sa sarili ko, lahat ng magka-cut sa akin na tatanga tanga, hindi ko peprenuhan. Bahala sila sa buhay nila kung masagasaan sila at magkalasug-lasog sila o mamatay. Tanga sila, problema nila.

Hehehe. Baka magsisi ka kapag ginawa mo yan. Easy lang.

[chain]

I was just about to write to thread about this when I noticed there was one already..

*sigh*

yesterday sa may Tandang Sora Ave, (maraming ginagawa) there was this scooter that dangerously passed my left side. siguro mga 2 feet na lang yun. I had to brake hard kasi I was about to make a left turn (naka-signal light ako nun)

nakngputcha! sya pa ang nagalit. tiningnan ako tapos may mga sinabi pa!! eh di bumusina ako tapos sya naman while driving off gave the finger. DAMN.. I nearly blew it. My girl who was sitted beside me had to restrain me from going after him.

nakakayamot!

[cardo]

I've had many experience with these kids... sometimes they even think their bikes(or scooters) are the equivalent of the Fast and the furious cars by strapping on neons, ridiculously loud exhausts and sometimes lowering them parang kotse ba naman? i dont see those ducatis and yamahas lowering their bikes on motoGP races? I mean may benefit ba to? yun mga GT cars, oo nilolower nila to reduce airflow under the car(since the bottom of the car is the least most aerodynamic part)

one time, I while driving on a moderately high speed higway, this yellow scooter was trying to overtake me but he was deficient on power and I was on my right of way. so he was trying over and over until a jeepney pulled over and stopped suddenly in front of him. of course hindi sya naka overtake at biglang preno sya. as I looked on my rear view mirror sya pa yun nagalit and gave me the finger. I was pissed off kase he had the nerve to blame me(baka kelangan nya ng masmalaking tambutso sa scooter nya para sa added hp). so I slowed down to wait for him. maybe confront him abit. so we had a chance to go side by side, as I looked at him he was mad(he continues making offensive gestures). ako rin badtrip na, so out of my mind I gestured to him how I felt by making sudden and slight swerves to his position. aba takot rin pala. alam rin pala nila na walang laban mga incy wincy scooter bikes nila sa malaking suv. an lakas ng loob magcut, magovertake ng alanganin tapos alam pala nila na slight nudge from an suv talsik sila sa daan - like bugsplatter on the windshield. as there was traffic ahead, he cowardly slivered thru the cars in front of me.

[badsekktor]

all i can say is that LTO and other government agencies are at its lowest! very inefficient, that is why we have lose canons on the streets! just a piece of advice, always keep your cool. I know someone who intentionally nudged a biker. the biker kid died and so is the driver. died of guilt.... unless you are ready to kill them... stay cool

[badsekktor]

all i can say is that LTO and other government agencies are at its lowest! very inefficient, that is why we have lose canons on the streets! just a piece of advice, always keep your cool. I know someone who intentionally nudged a biker. the biker kid died and so is the driver. died of guilt.... unless you are ready to kill them... stay cool

[cardo]

filipino style driving or american style driving... when you drove in the phils and back in the US and vice versa... was, is it culture or discipline? when a biker makes irrational lane changes, is it because he is reckless or is it because he percieves he is seen by the car all the time? or is it because he has not driven a car to experience what most motorist deem irrational lane changes? or it is because the philippines do not have a bike/motorcyle lane compared to most streets in the US? like spitting? if one spits on the streets of the US and other people saw it, its rude. but in china, it perfectly normal. in ancient times, people spit on the hands and shake hands to acknowledge confirmation of a deal. is it culture or discipline?

you know i think people in the phils force a bike out of the lane because as an owner of a bigger/faster car, they think they have power over the smaller bike... so as a car they think they have right of way over the bike. but then again, in some countries motorcyles/bike have their own lanes. in the philippines power is corrupts kahit nga someone has a friend who's a friend to a friend of a military official an yabang na. kala mo sino. sa states kase, kahit sino you can sue him til the last cent of hehehe

i personally do not know. i just go with the flow

sometimes it looks like teen riders/scooters are more committed to dieing because of what they are doing. i mean, the fact that they do not wear a helmet speaks for itself right?

[fireblade]

Fellow tsikoteers, kindly avoid generalizing as the other side will just do the same. I use my signal lights both on my car and my bike. Let us promote a harmonious co-existence.

Just to share another BS story of lane cutting....

http://motorcycleasia.com/forums/sho...240#post155240

[fireblade]

Just to share with you another bikers brotherhood story and how fun they could be


http://motorcycleasia.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7986


Mods,

Sorry for the OT, I just wanted both sides to see the other side of the fence. I also post links to MC forums about your discussion here so there will be more respect.

[Fast Eddie]

Just to share with you another bikers brotherhood story and how fun they could be


http://motorcycleasia.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7986


Mods,

Sorry for the OT, I just wanted both sides to see the other side of the fence. I also post links to MC forums about your discussion here so there will be more respect.

tanong lang, di ko pa alam ano ibig sabihin "OT"?

[silverbx986]

tanong lang, di ko pa alam ano ibig sabihin "OT"?

:offtopic:

[Kamui]

filipino style driving or american style driving... when you drove in the phils and back in the US and vice versa... was, is it culture or discipline? when a biker makes irrational lane changes, is it because he is reckless or is it because he percieves he is seen by the car all the time? or is it because he has not driven a car to experience what most motorist deem irrational lane changes? or it is because the philippines do not have a bike/motorcyle lane compared to most streets in the US? like spitting? if one spits on the streets of the US and other people saw it, its rude. but in china, it perfectly normal. in ancient times, people spit on the hands and shake hands to acknowledge confirmation of a deal. is it culture or discipline?

I don't think you read and understood my first post. I said Lane Splitting not lane spitting... LOL!
Pls. read the following websites so you will know what lane splitting is.
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/inju...orcycle51.html
http://www.kcra.com/traffic/4727628/detail.html.
http://www.msgroup.org/forums/mtt/to...?TOPIC_ID=1659
Note that they say it should only be done in slow moving or stopped traffic. Which is why Im amazed at how fast bikers here in the Philippines do it. It is just not safe.

If you drove or rode in the U.S. and do irrational lane changes or just change lanes like you are racing in a race track then the cops will pull you over and fine you for reckless driving. If the Philippines adopted the same strict enforcement then traffic/driving conditions would improve in the span of a few years.

In my experience there are very few motorcycle lanes being implemented in the different states in the U.S. Law makers there are smart enough to know that as long as the bike can keep up with the average speed limit on the roads and the rider is wearing a helmet and some recommended safety gears then it really doesn't matter whether it is a scooter or a sport bike. Its not the vehicle its the driver. Its all about following the rules. Because drivers are more disciplined in the U.S.(thanks to law enforcement) there is little need to segregate drivers and bikers. They all follow the rules most of the time. Unlike here, where bikers are widely discriminated. Just because the car is bigger and faster than the bike doesn't give the driver the right to force the rider off the road. Especially a rider that is following the rules and sticking to his lane like he would if he was driving a car.

Law makers here should really change the stupid rule that "when you hit a jay walker, biker, etc. then its automatically the car drivers fault". That's one rule in this country I find very stupid... If it is proven to be the fault of the jay walker, biker, etc. then the car driver shouldn't be obligated to pay anything.

[woulfe27]

eto nakipaghabulan sa kotse kahit malayo pa kita na nya na papasok na yung kotse sa parking lot.



sa presinto gusto nung erpats nung bike rider pagawa ko motor nya, sagutin ko medical expenses, and bigyan ko ng school allowance yung bata for 1 week. sabi ko willing ako sagutin 1/2 ng medical bill but that's not an admission of guilt on my part. sabi ng pulis nung kaming dalawa na lang "mayaman ka siguro no? bat mo tutulungan sa medical expenses e di naman ikaw me kasalanan?"

next time na nagkita kami nung erpats sa presinto sabi ko "binabawi ko na ho yung offer ko na tulong. in fact ako ho maniningil sa inyo kase based sa police report at sa pics na nakuha sa scene of accident, ako ho ang me right of way. saka wala hong rehistro yang motor ng anak nyo."

tameme yung erpats. e kung tinanggap ba nya yung una kong offer e di me pera pa syang konti hehe. napawash over tuloy ako ng di oras.

btw, nagmomotor din ako before pero di ako kups magmaneho. mahal ko buhay ko bwehehe.

[ARB]

dehadista - happened to me also, it was about 10pm no other cars on the street, was about to turn left then suddenly may scooter with 3 people on board so I stepped on the brakes to avoid him, nag dirty finger pa. So the what I did was to followed him he was trying to speed up and I cannot see already the rear lights of the scooter because I was too near the scooter, he made a left turn but could not make it na hulog sila sa road with mud on the side, I stopped and asked who made the dirty finger, he was running away full speed so I went into reverse to catch the stupid rider and when I caught him I was about to get down and break his fingers he said that he is very sorry and would not repeat what he did. meanwhile the two other riders was trying to pick up their motorcycle from about knee deep mud!

I did not want these thing to happen but they think that they are always correct, what if I did not see them and na bangga nila ang sasakyan? T.Y. na lang?

[bukaszippermo]

Buti pa yung mga bumbay riders noong araw. Kahit walang helmet at naka sakay ng patagilid yung mga misis nila sa likod, ma ingat sila at safe na safe ang driving. Wala akong reklamo.

I don't want to be mean, but i smirked when I saw the photo above. Inisip ko " HA!! PWNED!!!" I can't help it.

I've been to extremes: I've experienced the traffic in India/Phil and Japan/US. When I went to New Delhi, mas expert sa gitgitan yung mga tao dun! Dun lang ako naka kita na halos 90% ng kotse sa daan walang side mirror. Either nabali na, or naka sabit na lang. The traffic there is probably 5 times worse than here. Then again, we're probably close to India. Or maybe we're worse. Kase even if grabe ang gitgitan dun, I noticed they never pass/beat a red light. Dito, minsan bubusinahan ka pa ng mga ogags sa likod mo pag di ka umabante kahit naka red light pa. Lalo na yung mga taxi, di sumusunod sa traffic light yang mga kupal na yan. Muntik nakong sumalpok sa isang taxi nung di nya sinunod yung RED light tapos naka GREEN kami nun. Pasalamat sya wala akong ma ibato sa kanya. Pero gigil na gigil ako nun, buhay ko na at stake sa katangahan nya.

Sa Japan isa lang masasabi ko, pag ang schedule ng bus dadating ng 3:42, dadating yun ng 3:42. Not 3:41 or 3:42. They are NEVER late or early. That says a lot already.

When will the government/LTO ever turn its ugly head. I guess that day will never come.

[silverbx986]

anytime, fast eddie. OOppss, OT na tayo :bwahaha:

[scarab]

....ingat lang sa mga reckless scooters na yan (yung reckless lang ha). may nagpost dito dati, after niya sindakin yung isang maangas na scooter rider binalikan siya nun na may 40 other scooter riders na kasama. parang pack of wolves kung umatake.