Counterflowing Jaguar driver enrages netizens

[cast_no_shadow]

Sabe senyo eh hindi talaga nag counterflow.

Case closed!


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[Juan Martinez]

Sabe senyo eh hindi talaga nag counterflow.

Case closed!


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cast_no_shadow, ang sabi ko he could not have any malice when he counterflowed. yan ang sinasabi ko. may latin dyan eh- "actus non facit reum nisi mens sit rea". japeeps, you read that is found in the book of Luis B. Reyes, Criminal Law I. if the mind is not criminal, the act is not criminal. but these things are not written in stone. if you dig deeper into criminal law, lack of malice is not a defense in special laws. but that is another story.

[jut703]

Paikot-ikot na 'tong thread. As has been said by different people over and over again, THIS FORUM IS NOT A COURTROOM.

This is not the place to show off lawyer-ing. There is no impartial jury here, so I don't see why any conclusion has to be made.

If anything, the only jury here is the consensus of the majority. Malinaw naman sa first page palang, the majority find the Jaguar driver at fault.

There's nothing wrong with expressing a different opinion (regardless of how illogical the reasoning may be to other lay men). But not letting go of the issue and spending the past 5 pages in circles isn't helpful to anyone.

Let this serve as a Moderator's Warning - this thread is getting out of hand, and once it becomes nothing more than an avenue for mudslinging and circular argument, we'll close it.

[jut703]

Juan Martinez has made his point - he claims that the Jaguar driver did not maliciously try to counterflow or break the rules. He's made over a dozen posts defending his stand, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Everyone else disagrees, and that's fine as well. If his agreements will work with a judge, then great. Last I remember though, this was just an internet forum. Hardly any consensus is ever achieved here, especially on non-car topics.

So if his point is to convince everyone that his stand is valid, it ain't gonna happen. Likewise, the efforts of everyone else to get him to just agree with the common sentiment also isn't gonna happen. Stalemate.

You can argue all day long if you want, just keep it clean and avoid personal attacks. Oh, and sarcasm runs aplenty in threads like these - ang mapikon, talo.

Happy prosecuting.

[Juan Martinez]

Juan Martinez has made his point - he claims that the Jaguar driver did not maliciously try to counterflow or break the rules. He's made over a dozen posts defending his stand, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Everyone else disagrees, and that's fine as well. If his agreements will work with a judge, then great. Last I remember though, this was just an internet forum. Hardly any consensus is ever achieved here, especially on non-car topics.

So if his point is to convince everyone that his stand is valid, it ain't gonna happen. Likewise, the efforts of everyone else to get him to just agree with the common sentiment also isn't gonna happen. Stalemate.

You can argue all day long if you want, just keep it clean and avoid personal attacks. Oh, and sarcasm runs aplenty in threads like these - ang mapikon, talo.

Happy prosecuting.

sir, ang sa akin lang para matapos na'to. let us respect each other's opinion. I highly respect their opinions and I hope they extend the same courtesy. thank you

[bloowolf]

sir, ang sa akin lang para matapos na'to. let us respect each other's opinion. I highly respect their opinions and I hope they extend the same courtesy. thank you

That being said, again, I move that this thread be closed.

[Yuki13]

That being said, again, I move that this thread be closed.

I second the motion, your honour.:D

[ClaNker]

Yes we respect each other's opinion.

Majority kaming pumanig sa tama and in the end we were proven to be true.

Dalawa lang ata ang pumanig sa mali dito, ang masaklap eh ipaglaban hangang kamatayan.

That being said, I third the motion.

[Juan Martinez]

^ anong proven to be true? you even commented to the effect na kung "indio" pa yung tao... anyway, you are entitled to believe what you want to believe. we were wrong to assume that he was rich and therefore he could have easily trifle our laws.

[Juan Martinez]

in the spirit of solidarity, let us have a truce here. no more recriminations, if any. and, mods, please, for the sake of posterity, do not close this thread. we shall pass this world only once. if we kick the bucket sooner or later, knock on wood, at least, we have something here that would last, if not forever, long after we've all gone. history be the judge.

[mfabajon]

mfabajon, kung matalino ka walang VAGUE sayo. and by the way, I read the the meaning of troll in the dictionary, it refers to one who posts inflammatory articles. you read all my posts here if I posted inflammatory articles. MAYBE, you were inflamed because I took the road less traveled by taking the position that that impostor COULD NOT HAVE COUNTERFLOWED MALICIOUSLY. read again: that impostor COULD NOT HAVE COUNTERFLOWED MALICIOUSLY, which is against the opinion of some people here. that is why I'm asking let us agree to disagree for a moment.

On the contrary Attorney, I really just find this amusing. I am lmao just about now. You're so much fun.

[Juan Martinez]

On the contrary Attorney, I really just find this amusing. I am lmao just about now. You're so much fun.

^ this is really amusing. :D

[mfabajon]

xagent_orangex, sabi mo di mo "ma-arok" yung pino - post ko dito. so, paano mo masasabi na mali yung concepto ko. Ang advice ko sayo you read. you read Hobbes, you read nietzche, you read Espinoza, you read hegel, you read bacon. you make your mind work. after reading the works of these authors, let us talk. Sabi nga ni miriam defensor santiago, a person has to make his mind work so that his mind will not be stupid forever.

This is the funniest rebuttal in this forum. I'll show this to my students. Hahaha. I'm teaching humility this Sunday.

[mfabajon]

japeeps, invite your lawyers and judges friends so that we can talk. it is really difficult to talk to a layman like you about jurisprudence and legal principles. what comes to mind was the impeachment trial of president estrada when joker arroyo had a verbal tussle on some finer points of the law with former senator Francisco Tatad. Joker cut off Tatad (who is not a lawyer, but a brilliant fellow. he was one the spokesman of the late president marcos) by saying, "I'd rather argue with a lawyer." now, japeeps I ask you, you invite your judges and lawyer friends here so that we can talk about the law. I don't want to argue with you about it. ok?

"Difficult to talk to a layman like you". LOL. The Joker was right about civilized men. He said when the chips are down, they eat each other. That's the Joker from the movie Dark Knight by the way. Hahaha. Funny what decent people can become with the right push.

[Juan Martinez]

"Difficult to talk to a layman like you". LOL. The Joker was right about civilized men. He said when the chips are down, they eat each other. That's the Joker from the movie Dark Knight by the way. Hahaha. Funny what decent people can become with the right push.

mfabajon, it seems you do not know what I'm trying to drive at. so it's better for us not to interact anymore, comprende?

[mfabajon]

in the spirit of solidarity, let us have a truce here. no more recriminations, if any. and, mods, please, for the sake of posterity, do not close this thread. we shall pass this world only once. if we kick the bucket sooner or later, knock on wood, at least, we have something here that would last, if not forever, long after we've all gone. history be the judge.

What truce? Is this forum now a battlefield? Haha. Come on mod, close the thread already. There's nothing new being said anymore. History is a busy judge. He'll be late as usual.

[claRkEnt]

after 35 pages of repeated arguments, i therefore conclude the following :
1. that the car with the dashcam counterflowed.
2. all this troubles could have been avoided if only he avoided going to BGC. (just like in saudi if other nationals meet an accident, the accident would not have happened if they didn't go to saudi).

*closing the thread doesn't mean it would disappear. it would just still remain in the annals of tsikot history

[vvti2.0]

after 35 pages of repeated arguments, i therefore conclude the following :
1. that the car with the dashcam counterflowed.
2. all this troubles could have been avoided if only he avoided going to BGC. (just like in saudi if other nationals meet an accident, the accident would not have happened if they didn't go to saudi).

*closing the thread doesn't mean it would disappear. it would just still remain in the annals of tsikot history

Agree ako dyan paps. Hahahah!

[joemarski]

after 35 pages of repeated arguments, i therefore conclude the following :
1. that the car with the dashcam counterflowed.
2. all this troubles could have been avoided if only he avoided going to BGC. (just like in saudi if other nationals meet an accident, the accident would not have happened if they didn't go to saudi).

*closing the thread doesn't mean it would disappear. it would just still remain in the annals of tsikot history

totoo 'yan! karamihan talaga sa mga "aso" ganyan nga ang ugali at asal.

tutal, ganyan din ang ugali ni JagWar, bakit di na lang parusahan 'yan tulad ng parusang Saudi...
putulan na lang... kahit ulo lang, puwede na!

[jaggerx3]

Basta mali mag counterflow! Case closed!