car park accident

[arvic]

Mga Peeps,

Hingi nmn po ako ng tulong nag park po ako sa isang paid parking area, ng pa uwi na ako nakita ko yung driver side door ko na may malaking dent plus scratches... nag tanong ako sa parking attendant wala daw syang nakita o na pansin na nabanga yung car ko.... Meron po ba ako habol sa parking management kahit alam ko na nakalagay sa ticket nila na wala silang liability kung ano man mangyari sa car mo sa loob ng parking area nila.???!!!

Ano kya po maganda gawin?

[niky]

You shouldn't leave the car-park without at least an incident report or affidavit. You can legally claim that they're liable, as the non-liability clause on the parking ticket constitutes an unsigned contract... in other words, you don't sign on the parking ticket, you don't necessarily agree to the conditions... and according to Philippine law, you cannot sign away your rights anyway.

For example, even if you sign a contract with a guy permitting him to kill you, he can still be charged with murder... :lol:

Unfortunately, since you've left the premises without such, your best bet is to go through insurance instead. I doubt the management will accept your claim without a report, and so long after the incident. It's worth a shot, but it's dubious.

[j_avonni]

Claim against the parking area owner would not prosper as it was not the one who caused damages to your car but an unknown party. Better claim against your insurance - if you have one.

[EL Chicane]

Halos lahat ng parking lot business ngayon (kahit paid parking) usually ang policy na is that they are not liable to any damages or theft in/on your car. Parang "park-at-your-own-risk" or "pasalamat-ka-meron-ka-pang-naparkingan-dito" policy.

Saka kung iisipin mo rin, pag pumasok ka sa parking lot nila, they don't inspect your car if you came in with a damaged or scratched door already. Kaya kung ikaw rin mismo yung may-ari nung parking lot, malay mo ba kung dati ng merong scratch at dents yung pinto niya at gusto ka lang kwartahan. Diba 'pre.

So malamang insurance na lang pag-asa mo pards. Good luck! Ma-karma sana yung mga ungas na yun na dumale sa tsikot mo.

[wrecker]

haay naku, dami talagang taong irresponsible... ako dati nadale sa simbahan pa... di manlang nag iwan ng contact info, kasisimba pa naman

[arvic]

malamang nga po insurance na ang pagbabalingan ko... hay.... actually sa ortigas area na dali yung car ko... halos professional mga tao dito!!! sa damit lng pala... they don't even bother leave any contact number... as if prang walang ngyari.... wish ko nlng eh mangyari din sa kanila ng mas malaki pa ang damage... hay uli!!!

ingat na ingat ka sa mga sasakyan katabi mo pero sila walang paki alam...

lahat ng damage na tamo ng car ko puro sa parking area... nakaka inis tlga...!!!

[1D4LV]

sawa na rin ako dyan. tignan nyo yung rear window pillars ng oto ko, parehong may small dents. tingin ko lang dyan sa mga driver/passengers ng mga ganyang sasakayan eh low life scumbags...
tsaka ko na lang papaayos...

[wilcats]

tsktsk... yan ung mga passengers/kids na wla pakelam mag bukas ng door! hehe! nayari narin ung frend ko nyan pero dun nmn sa condo nila. mga bata na sinisipa pinto pra bumukas sabay hampas sa car mo!!

kya ako as much as possible park ako mlapit nlg sa wall/post pra iwas sa ktabing car..

[Dieseler]

Usually the carpark ticket has a fine print disclaimer saying that they are not liable for any damage or loss. So the fact that you accepted the ticket and agreed to park in their place, eh di na daw nila problema.

But then, there are some senators / mayors who want this practice abolished. The last I heard regarding this was a year ago. Siguro nagiingay lang sa mga mall para bigyan sila ng 'contribution' para tumahimik hehehe...

[EL Chicane]

But then, there are some senators / mayors who want this practice abolished. The last I heard regarding this was a year ago. Siguro nagiingay lang sa mga mall para bigyan sila ng 'contribution' para tumahimik hehehe...

Mahirap mag-negosyo ng parking lot pag ganyan ang nangyari 'pre. Isipin mo, meron lang isang mag-claim ng damage, limas kagad isang linggo mong kita. Hehe. Dapat lahat ng papasok sa parking lot pi-pik-churan lahat ng sides, isusulat lahat ng location ng gasgas, tataas ang parking fee kasi dagdag security guards or surveillance camera. Hassle. Malamang baka sa dami ng mag-ke-claim ng damages, pambayad pa ng attorney kung magka-demandahan, mukhang magsasara na lang yung parking lot hehe.

[Dieseler]

Mahirap mag-negosyo ng parking lot pag ganyan ang nangyari 'pre. Isipin mo, meron lang isang mag-claim ng damage, limas kagad isang linggo mong kita. Hehe. Dapat lahat ng papasok sa parking lot pi-pik-churan lahat ng sides, isusulat lahat ng location ng gasgas, tataas ang parking fee kasi dagdag security guards or surveillance camera. Hassle. Malamang baka sa dami ng mag-ke-claim ng damages, pambayad pa ng attorney kung magka-demandahan, mukhang magsasara na lang yung parking lot hehe.

Tama ka. Dami naman kasing mga abusado eh.

Siguro a compromise can be made, like say, incidents of carnapping, sagutin dapat ng mga malls. Siguro naman pag nawala ang car mo sa paid parking eh iba na ang usapan grrr...

[baiskee]

Tama ka. Dami naman kasing mga abusado eh.

Siguro a compromise can be made, like say, incidents of carnapping, sagutin dapat ng mga malls. Siguro naman pag nawala ang car mo sa paid parking eh iba na ang usapan grrr...

lalong malabo...kung pagpapaayos lang nga sa oto ayaw akuin eh...papalitan pa nila.

primary reason they charge you is the "space" you're occupying.

[arvic]

Mahirap mag-negosyo ng parking lot pag ganyan ang nangyari 'pre. Isipin mo, meron lang isang mag-claim ng damage, limas kagad isang linggo mong kita. Hehe. Dapat lahat ng papasok sa parking lot pi-pik-churan lahat ng sides, isusulat lahat ng location ng gasgas, tataas ang parking fee kasi dagdag security guards or surveillance camera. Hassle. Malamang baka sa dami ng mag-ke-claim ng damages, pambayad pa ng attorney kung magka-demandahan, mukhang magsasara na lang yung parking lot hehe.

OT: I think i have a better idea.. no need to hire more security guard even high tech surveillance cam... have you heard yung insurance ng cell phone kada araw? the same principle will apply cguro.. kada parking mo meron insurance at the same time yung parking fee mo... what do you think? sa sobrang depress ko naka isip ako ng bagong negosyo... hahahaha!!!!1

[BoyFerrari]

OT: I think i have a better idea.. no need to hire more security guard even high tech surveillance cam... have you heard yung insurance ng cell phone kada araw? the same principle will apply cguro.. kada parking mo meron insurance at the same time yung parking fee mo... what do you think? sa sobrang depress ko naka isip ako ng bagong negosyo... hahahaha!!!!1

Ang hirap lang jan sa idea na yan, kung walang nangyari sa kotse mo, parati mong mai-isip yung laki ng binayad mo para lang mag-park for 2 hours. So malamang makikipag-sapalaran na lang yung iba, gasgas na kung gasgas.

[cardo]

I've heard in a legal forum, that this "rule" in the ticket is not admisable or void in court. Its a predefined contract kase, and you as a consumer is unaware of this. The problem is when do you opt to take legal action, the cost and time it consumes is not worth it. and the fact that they accpeted your car into their parking lot - liable na sila... and its their business di ba? business nila yun car parking. kung ayaw nila maging liable for damages, they have the right to inspect your car, then refuse and not accept your car

pero ewan ko... I'm not a legal authority

[111prez]

I've heard in a legal forum, that this "rule" in the ticket is not admisable or void in court. Its a predefined contract kase, and you as a consumer is unaware of this. The problem is when do you opt to take legal action, the cost and time it consumes is not worth it. and the fact that they accpeted your car into their parking lot - liable na sila... and its their business di ba? business nila yun car parking. kung ayaw nila maging liable for damages, they have the right to inspect your car, then refuse and not accept your car

pero ewan ko... I'm not a legal authority

a "predefined contract" is not necessarily inadmissible in court. these "predefined contracts" are referred to as CONTRACTS OF ADHESION. these are contracts where the terms are pre defined and the other party is essentially on a "take it or leave it basis." these contracts are still valid but will be construed strictly against the person making the contract. if you sign your agreement to such contracts, then you are deemed to have agreed to its terms and conditions also. one other example of such contracts are airline tickets, ferry tickets or even bills of lading or airway bills (yung sa mga courier companies)

however, the parking ticket does not exempt the parking owner from their acts of negligence. in the case of a car stolen from the car park, so long as you can prove that the car park management was negligent, then you will win your case.

however, be wary of your own negligence like leaving your car park ticket in the car for example. another example is failing to lock your own car. for sure, the car park owner will use all these defenses against a claimant

[bigbrother]

Sa SM Megamall parking lot level 3.... seen on my own two eyes. agawan sa parking lot actually, the revo actually is the 1st one to park but the red lancer unknowingly didnt see the revo waiting just park his car, upon doing so within a few minute the revo also found a parking space adjuscent near to the red lancer. sa tingin ko sa sobrang pikon ng driver ng revo the (huge) person got down from his car then scratch the red lancer with his key... then automatically go to his car and drove away to the exit... Saw everything happen I immediatelly call the attention of the security to halt the revo vehicle, but to no avail the security wala magawa... pinabayaan. HABA TALAGA YUN SCRATCH From front door to the end. Actually this happen I think almost 2 yrs ago.

[chieffy]

bad trip nga iyan...para lalong di ka maabala at mainis, mag claim na lang sa insurance para less hassle...

[quiksie]

pareho taqyo sa ortigas din ako nadentan. 1 week palang kotse ko tapos nagpark kami sa pay parking pagbalik namin may dent at sumama ang pintura nung kotse ng nakatama sa akin. Buti nakuha ng dent remover at walang gasgas.
Pag mag park ka make sure na malayo ang kotse, both sides of you. Tantsahin ang distance ng doors ng katabi mo kotse kung bubuksan

[geode]

i remember dati about a case where the complainant sued the parking area/admin kasi nanakaw ung ride nya while it was parked. nagrason ung parking admin na un nga na it says daw sa ticket na they're not liable for the loss pero nanalo pa din sa kaso ung complainant. dito ko din nabasa sa tsikot un ... around 5/6 months ago ata un.