Can someone explain how this happened?

[CVT]

Well 2 problems

I was making a legal right turn on red and the mc is arguing he had absolute right of way because he was green

And 2 I entered the second lane as a bicycle that had just passed by decided to suddenly switch to the outermost lane

He's done an estimate for about 40% the cost of a brand new bike of the same model, my own mechanic perused the job order and theorizes he may have hit me on purpose because based on his opinion, the damages sustained on the job order are possibly but unlikely attributed to the bike falling onto it's side. He's suspecting the bike may have had pre existing damage and is looking for a way to cover previous damages. That's why I'm asking if he could've been moving to the right instead of avoiding me to force a collision.

Thanks for the input everyone! Much appreciated!

It is a "legal right turn" alright bro,- but "with caution"

Hindi talaga magwo-work iyang ganyang arrangement dito sa Pilipinas,- dahil ang utak nating mga drivers,- kasama na ako riyan,- nauna ako sa kanto,- uuna ako sa iyo que se joda kahit na ikaw ay green and go pa at mabagal ko pang kukunin iyan,- magpreno ka sa likod, okay?.....

Kaya ang ginawa ng iba sa intersection,- no right turn on red,- para tigil na lang at hindi katulad ng sinabi ko sa itaas.

Kung sa ibang bansa mo ginawa iyan,- talagang bubungguin ka nila, dahil sila ang may "right of way" at kasalanan mo pa,- tama naman!


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[Lew_Alcindor]

simple case of "tumingin ka pero hindi mo nakita".

"tinimbang ngunit kulang..." hahaha

[ice15]

Just my opinion... Fender yung tinamaan syo, if sana pinto may argument... Likod, panalo ka.

But still since he's a motorcycle rider, talo pa din tayo (cars)... Papagamot mo manlang plus (if you're lucky) pantaxi nya pauwi...

Honestly, naiinis ako sa Pinas and US where the car behind you expects you to turn right kahit red on an intersection kapag nasa right most lane ka.

Sa countries driving on the left side, red is red kahit turning left ka.

[dr. d]

let's see how the investigator will see it.
obviously, what we put here will not be included in his decision-making process.

[oj88]

I have a couple of questions:

1. I'm confused, is the other party a motorcycle (MC) or a bicycle?
2. If I understood correctly, the MC or bicycle came from an inner lane of the perpendicular street when suddenly, he switched to your lane as you're concluding your right turn at the outer lane, causing the collision?

[enzo6k]

And 2 I entered the second lane as a bicycle that had just passed by decided to suddenly switch to the outermost lane

lets say safe ka nakaliko pakanan, pero i think bigla ka nagswitch ng lane? hindi mo na napansin na may parating galing likod kaya na-cut mo, dahil naka-focus ka sa bike sa unahan na iniwasan mo.

[lowslowbenz]

Honestly, naiinis ako sa Pinas and US where the car behind you expects you to turn right kahit red on an intersection kapag nasa right most lane ka.

This is why I always wait for the green light, regardless of the circumstances. Bahala kayong bumusina dyan sa likod ....

[remzam]

Motorcycle ba o bicycle?



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[niky]

This is why I always wait for the green light, regardless of the circumstances. Bahala kayong bumusina dyan sa likod ....

Good policy.

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Because your right to turn on a red is always conditional of whether the intersection is clear or not. As long as there is someone crossing or about to cross, there is always danger.

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Not to say that the threadstarter knowingly did something wrong or dangerous, but extra caution must be applied when plying city streets.

Even if the rider had the last clear chance, you can still be found partially at fault, and will still have to shell out.

[hypnos]

Suppose the two of them are on the outer(right most) lane.
Is there a possibility for the bike to be at fault even if he has the green light?

I am just perplexed how the bike can be the offender.

Granted that one can turn right with caution on an intersection with a red light.
Drivers who have the smallest of bladders would argue that hey I was cautious, I saw him X meters away so she should have braked hard because I was almost parallel the road after my turn going at X km/h.

Furthermore, TS mentioned that the intersection box was clear.
Shouldn't a merging vehicle check the entire incoming lane not just the spot where you are about to merge?
Even in the US, merging vehicles have to match up their speed with the vehicles traversing the lane so as to go with the flow and not cause a domino braking.

If the bike was on the outer lane, it would still be possible for the bike to hit the front fender because TS is still not fully parallel to the road.
A portion of the turning vehicle's front driver side could still be exposed to the outer lane since PH roads are often as narrow as a vehicles body(not even including side mirrors).