Beware sa aroganteng driver white uv or gt express ayala-tikling

[john5]

I was on my wy home last week galing duty sa makati med sumakay ako ng fx sa tapat ng RCBC isang mamang obese na driver may kausap sa cellphone while driving without seatlbelt naririnig ko conversation nila because i was seating beside him wala pang ibag laman fx dahil 1145 na ng gabi driver: nahuli ako ng mga p.i. Na pulis (kinuha lisensya ko)nakiusap ako na kakakrudo ko lang wala pa akong pera (referring sa lagay) tapos hindi daw pumayag pulis so according to him pabalang at pilosopo na nyang sinasagot mga pulis ( kaya siguro tuluyang kinuha lisensya nya) he was really hot tempered that time naka dalawang ikot sya sa valero hapit sa pasahero( medyo inis na ako) pero sa isip isip ko hayaan ko na nga baka nagbabawi lang dahil pang tubos, then may sumakay na maliit na babae sa harapan so dalawa na kame plus thenalmost 300lb driver ,masikip sa pwesto ko pero i have no choice but to lean slightly sa driver dahil nga babae katabi ko,to my surprise nag iba ng way si mamang driver,nagpa gas sa makati ave.

[john5]

May rider pa na nagpapagas pero tinapat nya ang fx kahit di pa tapos transaction ng kawawang rider(parang get out of my way!)so yung rider tiningnan na lang sya ng masama at umabante,then ako naman nakinig na ng mp3 sa iphone ko pampalipas inip sa dameng segway pagdating sa IPI i saw him na may sinasabi pala sa akin masama ang tingin "umurong ka naman!kanina pa ako hirap na hirap mag kambyo!" syempre arogante pagkakasabi niya at medyo badtripna din ako sabi ko "bakit sino bang malaki sa atin?" malapad din built ko kase i lift weights pero obviously he's bigger than me! Nagalit sya sabi namimilosopo ka pa! Sabi ko alam mo na palang masikip bakit nag pasakay ka pa sa unahan eh dame bakante sa likod, ang sagot nya "para kang nakaupo sa sofa" eh halos di na din nga ako makagalaw sa sikip pagdating sa rosario bigla nya ako inabutan ng bente baba na lang daw ako! Sabi ko baba talaga ako dahil sobra sikip daldal pa ng daldal so sabi ko baba ka,bumaba sya at he was provoking me to hit him, binaba ko ang bag ko to have proper stances pero inaantay ko lang sya mauna since i am a martial artist and self defense instructor and i mean no harm unless provoked takot din naman pala sabay layo at pasok sa fx nya making a bad sign sa akin and lots of trash talks so sa inis ko na lang, i banged his glass a little bit. Ang akin lang sana wag nya ibaling sa ibang tao init ulo nya sabi ko na lang sa kanya kaya pala nakukuha lisensya mo napaka angas mo!

[JJB]

May rider pa na nagpapagas pero tinapat nya ang fx kahit di pa tapos transaction ng kawawang rider(parang get out of my way!)so yung rider tiningnan na lang sya ng masama at umabante,then ako naman nakinig na ng mp3 sa iphone ko pampalipas inip sa dameng segway pagdating sa IPI i saw him na may sinasabi pala sa akin masama ang tingin "umurong ka naman!kanina pa ako hirap na hirap mag kambyo!" syempre arogante pagkakasabi niya at medyo badtripna din ako sabi ko "bakit sino bang malaki sa atin?" malapad din built ko kase i lift weights pero obviously he's bigger than me! Nagalit sya sabi namimilosopo ka pa! Sabi ko alam mo na palang masikip bakit nag pasakay ka pa sa unahan eh dame bakante sa likod, ang sagot nya "para kang nakaupo sa sofa" eh halos di na din nga ako makagalaw sa sikip pagdating sa rosario bigla nya ako inabutan ng bente baba na lang daw ako! Sabi ko baba talaga ako dahil sobra sikip daldal pa ng daldal so sabi ko baba ka,bumaba sya at he was provoking me to hit him, binaba ko ang bag ko to have proper stances pero inaantay ko lang sya mauna since i am a martial artist and self defense instructor and i mean no harm unless provoked takot din naman pala sabay layo at pasok sa fx nya making a bad sign sa akin and lots of trash talks so sa inis ko na lang, i banged his glass a little bit. Ang akin lang sana wag nya ibaling sa ibang tao init ulo nya sabi ko na lang sa kanya kaya pala nakukuha lisensya mo napaka angas mo!

The best is file a complaint sa LTFRB. That's why all PUVS (taxis/jeeps) have signs at their trunk to report to LTFRB for complaints! If proven guilty, suspended franchise nila. Problem lang is hectic at weekdays lang ang court hearing so sagabal sa schedule. But at least you give justice to everyone.

[shadow]

Haba ng kwento Wala bang plate number?

[john5]

Haba ng kwento Wala bang plate number?

Wala nga po boss,madilim na kase di pa visible plate no. Ni ungas

[FROZENICE]

may umepal na din saken ganyan ginigitgit ako ng todo syempre kotse ako fx sya
so ako iiwas hehehehe.... eh nagkataon na may bumaba na pasahero naka overtake ako
so ako na ang nasa harap binagalan ko sobra at di ko pinapa overtake...

pero magaling si kumag at di ko kayang lumaban sa fx niya kaya naka abante at
binabaan ako ng adjustable na sobrang kintab in action to hit my car or to me siguro...

then, my 40 S&W pointed to him directly and sabi ko lagn subukan mo lumapit ng isa
pang hakbang... ayun umalis din hehehehe.. muntik nko dun

i know to some its kinda unethical, pero i wont risk my life and beg a pardon sa ganun
klaseng driver... its either me or him who will end up behind bars or 6 ft below.. in my
case i choose not to be 6 ft below. :D

[BratPAQ]

may umepal na din saken ganyan ginigitgit ako ng todo syempre kotse ako fx sya
so ako iiwas hehehehe.... eh nagkataon na may bumaba na pasahero naka overtake ako
so ako na ang nasa harap binagalan ko sobra at di ko pinapa overtake...

pero magaling si kumag at di ko kayang lumaban sa fx niya kaya naka abante at
binabaan ako ng adjustable na sobrang kintab in action to hit my car or to me siguro...

then, my 40 S&W pointed to him directly and sabi ko lagn subukan mo lumapit ng isa
pang hakbang... ayun umalis din hehehehe.. muntik nko dun

i know to some its kinda unethical, pero i wont risk my life and beg a pardon sa ganun
klaseng driver... its either me or him who will end up behind bars or 6 ft below.. in my
case i choose not to be 6 ft below. :D

sus nagyabang ka pa dito.

"binagalan ko sobra at di ko pinapa overtake" proud ka pa sa ginawa mong ito? tapos naglabas ka pa at nanutok ng baril, mga tulad mo ayaw kong makasabay sa kalye, delikado ka.

[stavros]

may umepal na din saken ganyan ginigitgit ako ng todo syempre kotse ako fx sya
so ako iiwas hehehehe.... eh nagkataon na may bumaba na pasahero naka overtake ako
so ako na ang nasa harap binagalan ko sobra at di ko pinapa overtake...

pero magaling si kumag at di ko kayang lumaban sa fx niya kaya naka abante at
binabaan ako ng adjustable na sobrang kintab in action to hit my car or to me siguro...

then, my 40 S&W pointed to him directly and sabi ko lagn subukan mo lumapit ng isa
pang hakbang... ayun umalis din hehehehe.. muntik nko dun

i know to some its kinda unethical, pero i wont risk my life and beg a pardon sa ganun
klaseng driver... its either me or him who will end up behind bars or 6 ft below.. in my
case i choose not to be 6 ft below. :D

Hindi mo ba napansin na kinukuha na ng fx linya mo at nakipaggitgitan ka din? Defensive driving technique yan na pag anticipate mo din gusto gawin ng kasabay mo then maging mapagbigay na lang since alam mong lugi ka. May baril ka lang kaya nakipagpataasan ka ng ere, pano kaya kung wala?

[ans_lim168]

then, my 40 S&W pointed to him directly and sabi ko lagn subukan mo lumapit ng isa
pang hakbang... ayun umalis din hehehehe.. muntik nko dun

i know to some its kinda unethical, pero i wont risk my life and beg a pardon sa ganun
klaseng driver... its either me or him who will end up behind bars or 6 ft below.. in my
case i choose not to be 6 ft below. :D

Delikado yan, although I understand the puv driver got under your skin, the pointing of a gun is a definite . I always drive around the metro and encountered the same thing but I never provoke the other driver into a fistfight much less a gun pointing incident. Let's make our streets a safe place.

[FROZENICE]

sus nagyabang ka pa dito.

"binagalan ko sobra at di ko pinapa overtake" proud ka pa sa ginawa mong ito? tapos naglabas ka pa at nanutok ng baril, mga tulad mo ayaw kong makasabay sa kalye, delikado ka.

actually mabagal talaga takbo ko kaya siguro nabwisit saken...

the act of someone going towards you armed with that thing.... is definitely delikado,one same incident
happen to us and we where totally unarmed but ended up in the hosp and my cousin died after 4 days of coma.

thats what you get when you have nothing to protect yourselves....

Hindi mo ba napansin na kinukuha na ng fx linya mo at nakipaggitgitan ka din? Defensive driving technique yan na pag anticipate mo din gusto gawin ng kasabay mo then maging mapagbigay na lang since alam mong lugi ka. May baril ka lang kaya nakipagpataasan ka ng ere, pano kaya kung wala?

actually my bad... kaya i said that its unethical for me. pano kung wala?? if he gets closer e di sagasaan...
well im a type of person that will pull the trigger that wont think twice....a double tap it would be...

kaya lesson is the next time bababaan niyo ang kapwa driver be sure not to be armed with something
but be armed with smile nalang para walang gun point situation.

Delikado yan, although I understand the puv driver got under your skin, the pointing of a gun is a definite . I always drive around the metro and encountered the same thing but I never provoke the other driver into a fistfight much less a gun pointing incident. Let's make our streets a safe place.

it wont be a fist fight.... kapag fist fight lang pwede naman ako tumakbo... and be home safe.


ang problema kasi sa mga ibang tao / driver pag nakita nila yung counterpart nila eh medyo mas maliit
sa kanila at laking laki sa katawan nila at mukhang makakaya kaya lang nila eh nangbubuli na agad yan ang
problema sa karamihan pinoy matapang na agad porket malaki, eh nakakita ng baril umatras naman pala.


anyway, kinwento ko lang para mailabas ko guilt ko.

[pop3corn]

Haba ng kwento Wala bang plate number?

langya shadow ikaw ba na ba nag-troll ngaun d2. pero i like your style

[uls]

I was on my wy home last week galing duty sa makati med sumakay ako ng fx sa tapat ng RCBC isang mamang obese na driver may kausap sa cellphone while driving without seatlbelt naririnig ko conversation nila because i was seating beside him wala pang ibag laman fx dahil 1145 na ng gabi driver: nahuli ako ng mga p.i. Na pulis (kinuha lisensya ko)nakiusap ako na kakakrudo ko lang wala pa akong pera (referring sa lagay) tapos hindi daw pumayag pulis so according to him pabalang at pilosopo na nyang sinasagot mga pulis ( kaya siguro tuluyang kinuha lisensya nya) he was really hot tempered that time naka dalawang ikot sya sa valero hapit sa pasahero( medyo inis na ako) pero sa isip isip ko hayaan ko na nga baka nagbabawi lang dahil pang tubos, then may sumakay na maliit na babae sa harapan so dalawa na kame plus thenalmost 300lb driver ,masikip sa pwesto ko pero i have no choice but to lean slightly sa driver dahil nga babae katabi ko,to my surprise nag iba ng way si mamang driver,nagpa gas sa makati ave.

May rider pa na nagpapagas pero tinapat nya ang fx kahit di pa tapos transaction ng kawawang rider(parang get out of my way!)so yung rider tiningnan na lang sya ng masama at umabante,then ako naman nakinig na ng mp3 sa iphone ko pampalipas inip sa dameng segway pagdating sa IPI i saw him na may sinasabi pala sa akin masama ang tingin "umurong ka naman!kanina pa ako hirap na hirap mag kambyo!" syempre arogante pagkakasabi niya at medyo badtripna din ako sabi ko "bakit sino bang malaki sa atin?" malapad din built ko kase i lift weights pero obviously he's bigger than me! Nagalit sya sabi namimilosopo ka pa! Sabi ko alam mo na palang masikip bakit nag pasakay ka pa sa unahan eh dame bakante sa likod, ang sagot nya "para kang nakaupo sa sofa" eh halos di na din nga ako makagalaw sa sikip pagdating sa rosario bigla nya ako inabutan ng bente baba na lang daw ako! Sabi ko baba talaga ako dahil sobra sikip daldal pa ng daldal so sabi ko baba ka,bumaba sya at he was provoking me to hit him, binaba ko ang bag ko to have proper stances pero inaantay ko lang sya mauna since i am a martial artist and self defense instructor and i mean no harm unless provoked takot din naman pala sabay layo at pasok sa fx nya making a bad sign sa akin and lots of trash talks so sa inis ko na lang, i banged his glass a little bit. Ang akin lang sana wag nya ibaling sa ibang tao init ulo nya sabi ko na lang sa kanya kaya pala nakukuha lisensya mo napaka angas mo!

di ko kaya mag kwento ng ganyan hehe

anyway... ganyan talaga... hirap ng hanapbuhay ni driver eh kaya bad mood lagi

[renzo_d10]

*TS: Sana binigyan mo ng isa. Tutal suntukan lang naman, walang baril or kutsilyo na kasama.

*FROZENICE: Tsk.

[Ry_Tower]

Ngayon lang ako nakakita ng Frozen at nice na hindi cool at mabait.

[chrismarte]

TS sana kinarate mo na agad di naman aabot sa takbuahn yun kasi sabi mo 300lbs+

di ka naman nahirapan sumakay sa Rosario? la bang nagsabi na "koya pasabay" :naughty2:

mga ganung oras mahirap na sumakay dun papuntang Tikling

[ericson21]

^ oo nga ang hirap sumakay ng ganung oras dun, sobra, lalo na madaling araw. tsk tsk.

TS, sana nga binigyan mo ng isa. o kaya pag pasok nya sa fx, ginasgasan mo na lang hahaha. me gumanyan sakin na maangas na driver eh ng fx eh. (angono - megamall route). sabi ko lang naman eh "paki bilisan po sana ng konti kuya, puno na po tayo, wag na po kayong tumutok sa mga jeep." sabi ba naman saken "eh di ikaw na mag drive!" pagalit pang sinabe na maangas. sabi ko "sige kuya itabi mo at bumaba ka jan, ako na mag d-drive wag lang ako ma late." tapos di naman tinabi, haha.

[praetor91313]

not trying to start an argument but i humbly disagree with you bro. i'm also a responsible gun owner, i used to think like that but not anymore because of two encounters that i needed to draw my gun.

the first one was a couple of years ago when i was going to my girlfriend's(now wife) house, it was around 9pm nag cocommute palang ako non so i was walking near her house and passed by a couple of drunk guys nag iinuman sa kalsada ayon nag balak pag tripan ako. papalapit pa lang sila sa akin and from their approach i immediately knew they were up to no good, i was carrying IWB didn't point my gun at them but lifted my shirt and held the grip of my gun and told them to back off and they did. in that kind of situation by law i am already allowed to shoot them and protect my self especially some of them picked up their bottle to use it as a weapon lalo na naka inom sila kahit san corte di sila mananalo pag nag demanda sila. if i didn't have a gun i'm 100% sure i could've been seriously hurt or worse, i didn't shoot them because i don't want to kill anyone unless i really have to but if they didn't back off syempre di na ako mag dadalawang isip.

the other story is another long story so i won't post it anymore. anyway from that situation i learned that there are times that you don't have to fire your gun to eliminate the threat, and that my gun can become a tool to prevent situations like that to escalate any further.

btw i agree with you that frozenice was wrong for proviking the other guy.

A discussion between cool-headed, civilized people is always good.

First of all, I would like to clarify that I'm not a lawyer, but in my search on literature regarding responsible gun ownership, I've come upon several articles and and I try to discuss them whenever I can. After all, we can all learn from them.

When gun owners are threatened, we are faced with the decision on whether to use our weapon or not. Our decision may be a life-changing event. After all, you'll never know how the situation would end up, right? But once we commit to showing our weapon, we must be prepared to use it. You were prepared to shoot at the time to defend yourself.

My point was that we should never tote our weapons just to gain an upper hand in a traffic altercation. My question to sir frozenice is: if he took another step, would you really have taken his life?

You were inside your car and he was outside, what could he have done to you? Poke you with his "makintab na adjustable"? By the way, I never did get what "makintab na adjustable" is. Is it a wrench or a knife?

Anyway, just an added info: If circumstances forced us to use deadly force, we must be prepared to defend ourselves in a court of law.

We must always prove that we used it in self defense.

Under the law,

Anyone who acts in defense of his person or rights, provided that the following circumstances concur;

First. Unlawful aggression.

Unlawful aggression presupposes an actual or imminent danger on the life or limb of a person. Mere shouting, intimidating or threatening attitude of the victim, assuming that to be true, does not constitute unlawful aggression. Real aggression presupposes an act positively strong, showing the wrongful intent of the aggressor, which is not merely a threatening or intimidating attitude, but a material attack. Examples are the pointing of a gun or the brandishing of a knife or other deadly weapon.

Second. Reasonable necessity of the means employed to prevent or repel it.

Third. Lack of sufficient provocation on the part of the person defending himself.”

In your example sir foresterx, I think you won't have any difficulty defending yourself on a court of law. There was no provocation, you were just walking peacefully when several drunk men started making questionable actions against you. There were several of them and some of them were armed with broken bottles so you were justified to use deadly force. Third, there was no provocation on your part.

Now let’s look at frozenice’s example:

eh nagkataon na may bumaba na pasahero naka overtake ako
so ako na ang nasa harap binagalan ko sobra at di ko pinapa overtake...

pero magaling si kumag at di ko kayang lumaban sa fx niya kaya naka abante at
binabaan ako ng adjustable na sobrang kintab in action to hit my car or to me siguro...

then, my 40 S&W pointed to him directly and sabi ko lagn subukan mo lumapit ng isa
pang hakbang... ayun umalis din hehehehe....

There is unlawful aggression on his opponent’s part because he was approached with an “adjustable na makintab”. He can also claim in court that this constitutes a reasonable necessity of the means employed to prevent or repel the attack. However, he would be hard-pressed to prove that there was no sufficient provocation on his part, di ba?

Some more added info:

Saying “then, my 40 S&W pointed to him directly and sabi ko lagn subukan mo lumapit ng isa
pang hakbang...” constitutes a crime of grave threats.

A. Grave Threats under Article 282 - the act threatened to be done is a crime e.g. to kill, to burn or destroy property, to box or to inflict injuries
1. Conditional: the accused makes a demand so that he will not do what he threatened, such as a demand for money or another condition which may not be unlawful. (pointing a gun then saying sige, subukan mo lang lumapit isa pang hakbang…)

2 Unconditional- there is simply a declaration to do wrong or harm amounting to a crime. E.g.: “I am tired of looking at your face. I might as well kill you”

3. But if the threat was made in the heat of anger and the accused did not persist, it is Light Threats. E.g: In a heated quarrel the accused uttered: “ Uubusin ko kayong magpapamilya” but did not do anything more. If he however gets a weapon and moves towards his opponent, the crime is grave threats.

The penalty for this is arresto mayor and a fine not exceeding P500.

Art. 283. Light threats. — Any threat to commit a wrong not constituting a crime, made in the manner expressed in subdivision 1 of the next preceding article, shall be punished by arresto mayor.

Art. 285. Other light threats. — The penalty of arresto menor in its minimum period or a fine not exceeding 200 pesos shall be imposed upon:

1. Any person who, without being included in the provisions of the next preceding article, shall threaten another with a weapon or draw such weapon in a quarrel, unless it be in lawful self-defense.
2. Any person who, in the heat of anger, shall orally threaten another with some harm not constituting a crime, and who by subsequent acts show that he did not persist in the idea involved in his threat, provided that the circumstances of the offense shall not bring it within the provisions of Article 282 of this Code.

3. Any person who shall orally threaten to do another any harm not constituting a felony.

So in your case naman po, since you showed them your firearm, this alone would constitute light threats. But since there was unlawful aggression, your action was sufficient to prevent the threat, and there was no provocation on your part, you can safely say that you acted in self defense.

Any inputs from real lawyers would be appreciated.

[foresterx]

agree on your very informative post bro. btw are you a member of a gun forum?

[yapoy86]

di ko kaya mag kwento ng ganyan hehe

anyway... ganyan talaga... hirap ng hanapbuhay ni driver eh kaya bad mood lagi

pero hindi dahilan yan para mag angas ka.... parang isang guro.. dapat mahaba ang pasensya mo lalo na serbisyo publiko ang ginagawa mo.. bawal masunget...

[john5]

Ako i don't own a gun,i'm armed with my principles in life.hindi po ako nagsisimula ng gulo dahil takot akong mapaaway pero pagdating na sa pag aangas sa akin ng ganon na wala naman akong ginagawa maybe i should use my skills haha... I'm a psychiatric nurse as well as an educator kayamost probably i understand human behaviors pero syempre may hangganan pag iintindi. Opo medyo madali lang ako naka sakay nag jeep na lang ako