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  1. Join Date
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    #31
    Ispare nyo na ang mga doctor. Nareplyan na ni OTEP sa post#22 at post#24.

    Isa itong case na dapat bigyan ng benefit of the doubt pagdating sa mga siraulong nag duduktor duktoran o sa mga doctor na hindi naman emergency kasi buhay ng tao ang nakataya dito. OOopps tapos babalik na naman tayo doon sa marami namang doctor sa ospital eh, tignan nyo na lang iyong post# 22 ni Otep.

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    #32
    No problem naman exempting doctors on an emergency case from the UVVRP. But how do you differentiate emergency from non-emergency? Kung kailangan talaga sila at coding day at wala silang ibang sasakyan, mas mabilis siguro kung taxi na lang.

    Pero gaya nga ng sinabi ng isang poster dito, in a real emergency case, hindi na kailangang hintayin ang personal physician. Like others, we have doctors in the family too, some are private practitioners, but most are detailed sa hospitals, and I can tell you that all of them have circumvented the UVVRP. Nagmamalaki pa nga na naisahan nila ang MMDA.

    My father-in-law was rushed to the UDMC 2 months ago due to a stroke. Hindi na namin hinintay ang family doctor, nung ni-rush sa ER, we just let the ER staff make the decisions until he was stabilized. Our doctor visited him that day, 8 hours after we rushed him there. Same thing with my kid brother years ago, during his appendectomy. Since malapit na raw pumutok, hindi na namin hinintay yung relative naming surgeon and anesthesiologist practicing in that hospital. We just let the hospital staff do their job with their available personnel, including the operation. And those are real emergency cases.

    Its only sad na medyo na single out and doctors dito..but as far as I am concerned, whether Brain Surgeon, Architect, Engineer or isa kang simpleng Juan dela cruz...if you are trully on an emergency case..just put your blinkers on and honk your way through..even on a red light.

    I think that the Color Coding rule is least of a concern when anybody is truly in an emergency..my 2 cents.
    This one I agree 100%. Nuff said.

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    #33
    Well said Otep.

    It all boils down to the morals and convictions of the doctor. If I use my "privileged and noble profession" status in society just to be able to get one over a MMDA officer, sayang lang ang 13 years of medical education (to this day) ko. I didn't study and sacrifice that long just for that.

    The welfare of the patient is always in the highest regard of a physician. If he deems his patient's condition as one that he has to attend to at the soonest possible time, then let him be. He/she will never be able to please everyone. Who can anyway? But if it meant being able to save a life or alleviate a patient's suffering, then that is justified.

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    #34
    Cheers to the doctors in this thread.

    I don't think doctors would slave for 12-14 years, just so they can get the privilege of being exempted from color coding. having said that, one has to exercise responsibility, and not abuse this so-called "privilege". Besides, there are other ways to break traffic rules, i.e. not stopping at stop signs, not stopping at pedestrian crossings, breaking red lights etc. I'm sure, many of us are guilty of this. I've had trauma cases that were a result of traffic violations, and I had to attend to them during my coding days.

    If one begrudges doctors for having MD decals on their cars, and driving around on a coding day, one should hope that he will not require emergency medical services that require such "privilege" for a doctor to come to his help. My 0.02.

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    #35
    Quote Originally Posted by bayonic View Post
    not everyone who responds to medical emergencies are doctors ...
    paano kaming mga biomedical engineers? when the medical equipment is down ... walang magagawa ang mga doctors while the patient is on the table.
    please pardon my ignorance but i am completely curious: anong medical equipment ang kapag nag-down ay "walang magagawa ang mga doctors while the patient is on the table?"

    thanks in advance

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    #36
    Quote Originally Posted by TheShrike View Post
    I don't think doctors would slave for 12-14 years, just so they can get the privilege of being exempted from color coding. having said that, one has to exercise responsibility, and not abuse this so-called "privilege". Besides, there are other ways to break traffic rules, i.e. not stopping at stop signs, not stopping at pedestrian crossings, breaking red lights etc. I'm sure, many of us are guilty of this. I've had trauma cases that were a result of traffic violations, and I had to attend to them during my coding days.
    trauma team? action junkie

    i had this case dati, stab wound sa chest. ang ginamit ng assailant yung matalas na bagay sa nailcutter. crime of passion talaga. almost ruptured the pulmonary artery. needless to say, akala ko mauuna pa akong bumigay sa pasyente. ang toxic!

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    #37
    Quote Originally Posted by OTEP View Post
    What can I say, niky is right on the money.

    And that decal/badge/marking is not only for being exempt from the UUVRP. For three generations, all of our vehicles have worn a badge to identify it as a doctor's vehicle. Eh, wala naman UUVRP noong 1946 diba?

    One of the reasons for marking a doctor's vehicle is that the law, at least in writing, guarantees the doctor's vehicle the same rights as a fully-marked ambulance when responding to a medical emergency. As early as the second year of medical school, this will be taught already under the subject of Legal Medicine.

    As for abuse, yes it is open to abuse. But would you waste more than 10 years of your life trying to be a doctor just to be exempted from the color coding? Maglagay ka na lang ng decal ng pulis o kaya TV station!

    The only 'doctor' I know that loved abusing the UUVRP was NTV-777, and he got out of med school by the 2nd year so I don't think he counts.
    when i was shopping sa divvisoria before.dun sa katabi ng suking tindahan namin napansin ko yung isang van L300 nila na may permit sa pagka exempt sa coding na nakalagay sa windshield. so curious lang, kinausap ko may ari.pwede pala yun. pero 2 or 3 months lang yata validity period at may processing fee na 500+ or something. mag apply na lang sana mga doktor ng ganun. para mai assess mabuti ng kinauukulan kung dapat iexempt. para naman fair sa lahat.

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    #38
    I don't think doctors would slave for 12-14 years, just so they can get the privilege of being exempted from color coding. having said that, one has to exercise responsibility, and not abuse this so-called "privilege". Besides, there are other ways to break traffic rules, i.e. not stopping at stop signs, not stopping at pedestrian crossings, breaking red lights etc. I'm sure, many of us are guilty of this. I've had trauma cases that were a result of traffic violations, and I had to attend to them during my coding days.
    my thoughts exactly! am not against on this privelege given to doctors and besides how many cases we sighted daily? IMHO, hindi ko na iisipin pa na naisahan ako kung sakali man may ma-encounter ako. tanong ko lang po, kahit sinong doctor po ba pwedeng mag-avail sa privelege na ito or just those specialists?

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    #39
    RE: "not the only doctor".

    Like I've said, and OTEP has said... when possible, the doctor has to be there for their private patient. Even if the patient may have records at the hospital, in an emergency situation, the patient's personal physician is more familiar with their case, and can help provide life-or-death information during the operation.

    My aunt is not a surgeon. But she attends the surgeries of all her patients. Kagaya ng sabi ni Doc Otep... ethics and etiquette yun. But in some cases, it's also a practical necessity.

    I have a family of doctors... and, true, there are some who abuse the color-coding privelege for non-emergency reasons. Those who are rich enough (not all doctors are rich enough to afford more than one car... some I know don't even have a first car)... have a second car for coding days, but you can't always be sure that it's available or in service.

    But like I've said... you can't separate the abusers from the legitimate emergencies without holding up real emergencies. Not until they develop a way for police to remotely detect emergency vehicles or to have regulated emergency beacons that are linked to a central database. Unless the hospital flags the beacon on an ambulance, for example, as being "on emergency response", police will flag that vehicle down for abuse.

    RE: Blinkers and horn... yes, this works... but the badge gives the vehicle extra visibility and makes traffic enforcers less likely to flag them down. If an enforcer sees a car with blinkers and horn on and it's color-coded for that particular day, there's still a percentage chance they'll stop the car if it doesn't have the badge. (This is from experience).

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #40
    Understood.

    But to tell you honestly, my dr. brother just did this yesterday. No emergencies, nagalit nga ako eh! Coding kotse kasi and then he still wants to use the car kasi gusto nya i-try.

    Sabi ko ulit, tsikoteers dont like it!
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