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    #81
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i once asked one such motorcycle rider.
    his anser: "motor ako!"
    apparently, they feel they are entitled.
    Yes, some believe that as riders, they're entitled to cut through traffic. But looking at the other side of the coin, very few drivers treat them with the same respect as other cars, so they don't act like cars.

    Motorcycles splitting lanes is common because if you take a lane for yourself (like they do in other countries), some car will just bully you to the side anyway.

    I hate swerving motorcycles that cut it too close just as much as the next guy, but pragmatically, it's beyond my circle of control or influence (no, running them over isn't a civilized option). So instead of channeling my energy towards pointless hate, I just keep myself puzzled by trying to figure out the reasons behind their actions.



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    The best way to understand them is to experience riding one. We don't understand why they swerve instead of brake the same way they don't understand why big trucks make wide turns.

    For me how to drive your vehicle with another vehicle type is something that should be taught in driving school and tested when getting a driver's license.

    As for bad driving, most drivers of any mode of transport are guilty. If only the government were more strict on driver education during license application and renewal and on catching each and every violation being done everyday we'd probably make good progress in no time.

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    #83
    roxas blvd is one such road.
    the narrow space just beside the sidewalk curb is a favorite of motorcycles.
    kadalasan nga, hindi ako maka-abante sa green light, dahil may motor sa kanan na baka ma-sagi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eryxon View Post
    Dapat nga mag pasalamat pa ang mga 4 wheeler driver sa mga 2 wheeler rider dahil nakaka tulong sila/kami na makabawas sa traffic.
    In some ways, yes bro.

    Sana, nandito ka sa may area ng DOST,- dahil talagang walang disiplina ang mga motor dito, at sila ang isang dahilan ng matinding traffic.

    Aba e,- double counterflow na ang mga motor [meaning lagpas na sa linya nila] sa salubungang daan, tapos sasabayan pa ng mga motor na pilit mag-overtake sa iyo sa kanan at kaliwa,- wala kang magawa kung hindi umusad ng napakabagal o dili kaya ay huminto na lang... Iyan ang salot na ginagawa ng mga nagmo-motor dito sa lugar namin... Araw-araw iyan.

    Quote Originally Posted by eryxon View Post
    Kapag ako lang mag isa ang aalis hindi kotse ang dinadala ko kundi mutor dahil mas matipid at hindi umaakupa ng malaking space lalo mag isa lang ako. Kapag umuulan lang at madami kami na aalis dun ako gumagamit ng 4 wheel. Kung naiinis kayo sa mutor sana mabago ang pananaw ninyo dahil karamihan naman (hindi lahat) ay mag isa lang na sakay ng SUV/car na nag iisa lang. Alam naman natin na mas mas efficient ang 4 wheeler vehicle kung mas madaming sakay. Isan Car/SUV katumbas ng at least 4 motorcycle na kayang mag sakay ng 8 pasengers.

    Sana gawin batas din na bawal driver lang ang sakay ng isang private 4 wheeler vehicle. Excepted dito ang mga truck, delivery van etc. na pwedeng driver lang talaga ang sakay.
    I used to drive a motorcycle,- pero hindi katulad ng mga nagmo-motor ngayon ang diskarte namin na lusot sa kaliwa,- lusot sa kanan o automatic counterflow kaagad. At tsaka,- go with the traffic. And do not drive as if you own the road [may gusto nang lumusot sa iyo dahil mabagal ka na nga,- ayaw mo pang pagbigyan]. Share the road!

    Magandang batas iyan.... Parang car pooling law sa ibang bansa na may exclusive lane....

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    #85
    hindi kasi sinisita nang masigasig, ang mga motor.
    bakit ba sila susunod sa batas trapiko, kung wala namang sumisisita sa kanila!

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    #86
    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post



    In some ways, yes bro.

    Sana, nandito ka sa may area ng DOST,- dahil talagang walang disiplina ang mga motor dito, at sila ang isang dahilan ng matinding traffic.

    Aba e,- double counterflow na ang mga motor [meaning lagpas na sa linya nila] sa salubungang daan, tapos sasabayan pa ng mga motor na pilit mag-overtake sa iyo sa kanan at kaliwa,- wala kang magawa kung hindi umusad ng napakabagal o dili kaya ay huminto na lang... Iyan ang salot na ginagawa ng mga nagmo-motor dito sa lugar namin... Araw-araw iyan.

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    bro ma OT lang, ano mas matindi sa experience mo; DOST vs west service vs east service road? yun 2 service road kasi nabanggit ko mas nakakatakot kasi salubungan yung north and southbound MCs eh, pag nagkamali sila at nataon katabi mo malaki laki damage sayo, worst sayo pa isisi yun banggaan nilang tang*

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    bro ma OT lang, ano mas matindi sa experience mo; DOST vs west service vs east service road? yun 2 service road kasi nabanggit ko mas nakakatakot kasi salubungan yung north and southbound MCs eh, pag nagkamali sila at nataon katabi mo malaki laki damage sayo, worst sayo pa isisi yun banggaan nilang tang*
    Bro.,- iyong DOST ay sa East Service Road na nasa mouth ng Bicutan interchange.

    Sa akin,- mas grabe ang East Service Road sa segment ng kalye na ito dahil nga palaging naka-counterflow ang mga motor.

    Pero, pagdating sa may entrance ng FTI (northbound ito),- nagkakaroon ng island sa gitna,- and so, mas less complicated ang maniobra vs. sa mga nagmo-motor....

    Sa West Service Rd (between ito ng Sales Bridge and Merville (C5 Extension)),- mas madali ang pagmamaneho vs. nagmo-motor... Pero, doon sa maliit na rotonda sa Sales Bridge,- mauna na kayong lahat ng naka-motor, dahil gigitgitin ka nila para makauna,- kaya trapik palagi roon.... Around 430PM pa lang ito kaya I imagine mas grabe pag gumabi na....

    Tapos sa intersection ng Kaingin Rd at Multinational Ave.... Dahil sa sandamakmak na motor na nag-uunahan sa intersection,- more than 10 seconds na , hindi makausad ang mga sasakyan dahil saksak at gitgit at cut ang ginagawa ng mga motor para mauna silang mag-cross...

    Kaya,- mga 5-6 na sasakyan lang ang nakakatawid ng intersection sa 30sec na green light.... They are making the flow of traffic very inefficient in the intersections because of their manner of driving.

    Tanong,- iyan ba ang nakakaluwag ng trapik ang mga motor?

    Hindi na kailangang i-memorize iyan!

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    #88
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    hindi kasi sinisita nang masigasig, ang mga motor.
    bakit ba sila susunod sa batas trapiko, kung wala namang sumisisita sa kanila!
    On the contrary, I see policemen flagging down motorcycles for random spot checks every few intersections or so.

    I have never seen a car flagged down like that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post





    Bro.,- iyong DOST ay sa East Service Road na nasa mouth ng Bicutan interchange.

    Sa akin,- mas grabe ang East Service Road sa segment ng kalye na ito dahil nga palaging naka-counterflow ang mga motor.

    Pero, pagdating sa may entrance ng FTI (northbound ito),- nagkakaroon ng island sa gitna,- and so, mas less complicated ang maniobra vs. sa mga nagmo-motor....

    Sa West Service Rd (between ito ng Sales Bridge and Merville (C5 Extension)),- mas madali ang pagmamaneho vs. nagmo-motor... Pero, doon sa maliit na rotonda sa Sales Bridge,- mauna na kayong lahat ng naka-motor, dahil gigitgitin ka nila para makauna,- kaya trapik palagi roon.... Around 430PM pa lang ito kaya I imagine mas grabe pag gumabi na....

    Tapos sa intersection ng Kaingin Rd at Multinational Ave.... Dahil sa sandamakmak na motor na nag-uunahan sa intersection,- more than 10 seconds na , hindi makausad ang mga sasakyan dahil saksak at gitgit at cut ang ginagawa ng mga motor para mauna silang mag-cross...

    Kaya,- mga 5-6 na sasakyan lang ang nakakatawid ng intersection sa 30sec na green light.... They are making the flow of traffic very inefficient in the intersections because of their manner of driving.

    Tanong,- iyan ba ang nakakaluwag ng trapik ang mga motor?

    Hindi na kailangang i-memorize iyan!

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    ah yeah naalala ko na DOST nga pala sa bonifacio roundabout dami nga dyan.

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    #90
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    On the contrary, I see policemen flagging down motorcycles for random spot checks every few intersections or so.

    I have never seen a car flagged down like that.


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    i have not seen a motorcycle flagged down for a "road misconduct" for many years now. not even for flagrant disregard of road rules.
    but yes, there are many "motorcycle documents inspection corners" along my daily route.

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    #91
    Quote Originally Posted by Head-On View Post

    To All Riders,

    Please stop overtaking cars during turns, specially on right turns. Nakakagulat kayo lalo na sa mga naka malaking sasakyan. Ayaw namin maipit or sumabit kayo. You can overtake naman after the turn or sa bandang likod muna while lumiliko.

    If you agree with me and have rider friends and groups, paki-share na lang. This is for the safety ng lahat ng motorists.

    If you disagree with what I said, you are entitled to your own opinion. Safety habol ko dito hindi debate.

    Thanks po.
    one of so many reasons bakit maraming namamatay na riders

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    #92
    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post





    Bro.,- iyong DOST ay sa East Service Road na nasa mouth ng Bicutan interchange.

    Sa akin,- mas grabe ang East Service Road sa segment ng kalye na ito dahil nga palaging naka-counterflow ang mga motor.

    Pero, pagdating sa may entrance ng FTI (northbound ito),- nagkakaroon ng island sa gitna,- and so, mas less complicated ang maniobra vs. sa mga nagmo-motor....

    Sa West Service Rd (between ito ng Sales Bridge and Merville (C5 Extension)),- mas madali ang pagmamaneho vs. nagmo-motor... Pero, doon sa maliit na rotonda sa Sales Bridge,- mauna na kayong lahat ng naka-motor, dahil gigitgitin ka nila para makauna,- kaya trapik palagi roon.... Around 430PM pa lang ito kaya I imagine mas grabe pag gumabi na....

    Tapos sa intersection ng Kaingin Rd at Multinational Ave.... Dahil sa sandamakmak na motor na nag-uunahan sa intersection,- more than 10 seconds na , hindi makausad ang mga sasakyan dahil saksak at gitgit at cut ang ginagawa ng mga motor para mauna silang mag-cross...

    Kaya,- mga 5-6 na sasakyan lang ang nakakatawid ng intersection sa 30sec na green light.... They are making the flow of traffic very inefficient in the intersections because of their manner of driving.

    Tanong,- iyan ba ang nakakaluwag ng trapik ang mga motor?

    Hindi na kailangang i-memorize iyan!

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    Imagine kaya natin na lahat ng naka mutor na nabanggit ay hinid naka mutor at naka cage, Siguro mas grabe mangyayari. Buti nalang at mutor ang mga gamit nila kung hindi malamang madaling araw na di pa tapos ang traffic.

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    #93
    Quote Originally Posted by eryxon View Post
    Imagine kaya natin na lahat ng naka mutor na nabanggit ay hinid naka mutor at naka cage, Siguro mas grabe mangyayari. Buti nalang at mutor ang mga gamit nila kung hindi malamang madaling araw na di pa tapos ang traffic.
    Sige bro, mag-imagine nga tayo....😉

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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post
    Sige bro, mag-imagine nga tayo....��
    merry xmas mga riders, wala na buget naka motor pa, pano pag na aksidente, kamot ulo nlng, wala naman kyo comprehensive insurance pra sagutin ang 3rd party property damage...


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    #95
    Quote Originally Posted by remzam View Post
    I'm a motorcycle rider and a driver of a cage as well. I prefer riding the motorcycle especially if I'm just alone. Been riding motorized two wheels since I got my driving license.

    First, let me apologize for the unruly and undisciplined riders.
    You don't need to be the apologist for these bastards.

    I'm a rider too. I love the freedom that goes along with it, the adrenaline rush, and the arms - ripping acceleration. You're always in the zone, in the present moment, riding a speeding motor bike.

    Stupidity is not a vice exclusive only to riders, because I realize that there are as many bastards in cages when I'm riding as there are equally a good number of bastard riders when I'm driving. Stupidity cuts both ways.

    Sadik, I always wonder why turned down that offer to be a moderator in the motorcycle forum that we both joined. You could have made a great difference there, because, I reckon, there are so many bastard members in that forum.

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    Mura motorsiklo.

    Presyong cellphone lang ah.

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    #97
    This happened last week along Shaw Blvd. Pansin nyo yung guard sa right side signaling the fast approaching motorcycle to slow down...



    But the rider was having none of it... ayan tuloy, semplang.

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    ^ganyan talaga mga iyan, kita na nga nag-stop ang mga auto sa unahan nila (kadalasan sa mga bus/jeepney stops at intersections), hindi man lang naisip na baka meron tatawid.
    swerte pa ng mokong at hindi sya sumalpok dun sa van.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stålmannen View Post
    This happened last week along Shaw Blvd. Pansin nyo yung guard sa right side signaling the fast approaching motorcycle to slow down...



    But the rider was having none of it... ayan tuloy, semplang.
    Puwedeng gawing screen saver...

    Iyan ang mahirap sa kanila... Kapag lahat ng mga sasakyan,- nagpe-preno,- sila umaarangkada lalo para lumusot sa tagliran...

    Mabuti na lang at hindi grabe ang pagkaka-semplang niya.,.. Mabuti na rin at hindi ka sinabitan sa tagliran dahil panic na siya.....

    "Mauna na kayong lahat...."


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    'kala nila superman sila.
    hindi nasasaktan, hindi nasusugatan, hindi nababalian ng buto...
    ang hindi nila akala, ay hindi rin sila makita-kita kung mamalasin.

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