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  1. Join Date
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    #21
    ganun ba?!?!?! hindi na maganda ang service, sub standard na ang tools, mahal pang maningil, teka anu pa ba....personally I haven't taken my car to this shop pero after receiving this pm from a certain Yvette Vergara , I would definitely avoid it like a plague. Can we add blackmail to this shop's services?

    dear mr. moderator,

    it's very unfair for tsikot.com to allow black propaganga to discredit some car shops for competitors in the business to get ahead. that's foul. any crazy dude can say any lie to discredit any establishment / business. now , if there is no law in the internet regarding censorship and you as moderator can allow such people to badmouth just about ANYONE. what can we do ? is there a legal way to subpoena such libellous remarks? none right? you can always say Iam a gypsy and you can't do anything about it he he. well think again because we are organizing a big group to put an end to your public bulletin board allowing all kinds of smear campaign . we are funding hackers cause you keep on smirking to the fact that wala naman kayo magagawa sa amin . just wait for us . this is our final request that if you do not remove the bad stuff about ALPERZby posting AVOID ALPERZ by your jestcuster guy, we will find a way to end you! and WE WILL NOT STOP IF YOU DO NOT DELETE THOSE LIES. an eye for an eye ?
    Last edited by OTEP; December 16th, 2006 at 06:31 AM.

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    #22
    Nornally I wouldn't post PM msgs address directly to me. But the last part of the message really pissed me off. And mind you I don't get piss off easily . :D
    Last edited by afrasay; December 16th, 2006 at 03:23 AM.

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    #23
    blackmail nga sir afrasay. this is a public forum and anybody can post whatever they want as long as they abide by the rules and regulations set by the forum moderators and admins.

    what should have yvette vergara of alperz (fictitious name? i won't be surprised if it is) had done was to invite the original poster as well as other aggrieved customers to come over to their office to discuss their complaints. alperz can even post their own remarks to explain their side. this is better than making threats.

    if they are going to hire the services of hackers then their PM to you will serve as evidence in court.

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    #24
    This is a public forum and the forumers are free to post what's on their mind. You can always redeem yourselves. Kahit Autotechnika, Speedyfix, Mang Mario, Cruven, etc. may mga napost nang hindi maganda about them. Yet they are still being recommended by Tsikoteers without having to resort to 'blackmail' tactics. I guess it also helps that Autotechnika and Speedyfix are also forum members and they actually post things beneficial to forumers (e.g. tips and tricks).

    Pagbutihin niyo lang ang serbisyo and word will also get around. O baka naghahanap lang kayo ng dahilan maging cyber terrorist? On that basis alone, kayo na mismo ang sumira sa pangalan niyo. Tsktsktsk...


    it's very unfair for tsikot.com to allow black propaganga to discredit some car shops for competitors in the business to get ahead
    Again, this is a public forum and the forumers are free to post what they want so long as they adhere to the relatively simple rules of the board. If it's just black propaganda, the issue will just die down. If the shop is truly crappy (e.g. Z*fra or R*pide) then the truth must hurt sometimes.


    if there is no law in the internet regarding censorship and you as moderator can allow such people to badmouth just about ANYONE
    The threadstarter is relating his/her experience, Tsikot.com is neither confirming nor denying the truth to this matter. This is just a venue. If this is indeed just badmouthing then, as previously stated, the issue will just die a natural death. Of course being a free forum, you can always post and air your side as well instead of sending threatening remarks to our moderators. If you don't know who afrasay is and you talk to him like that, magtago ka na.


    well think again because we are organizing a big group to put an end to your public bulletin board allowing all kinds of smear campaign
    Cyberterrorist.org? Again, this is a PUBLIC bulletin board. You can always air your side as well instead of sending threatening remarks. Gusto mo pa ba ipost ng threadstarter yung resibo niya mula sa shop niyo? Other shopowners here actually scour through their records and ask their employees when a forumer airs his/her discontent. Not send blackmail PM's.


    just wait for us .
    Ok. Nasa Padi's Point lang kami.


    this is our final request
    Nagkaron ba ng initial?


    if you do not remove the bad stuff about ALPERZby posting AVOID ALPERZ by your jestcuster guy, we will find a way to end you! and WE WILL NOT STOP IF YOU DO NOT DELETE THOSE LIES. an eye for an eye ?
    Ok. Is this a death threat? Eh kung ayusin niyo na lang yung naging problema ng thread starter imbis na nagpopost kayo ng mga ganito? Siya ang i-PM niyo.
    Last edited by OTEP; December 16th, 2006 at 06:42 AM.

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    #25
    Galit na galit tong mga taga Alperz a. Kung maganda ang serbisyo nyo at hindi kayo nanloloko ng tao walang magrereklamo ganyan lang kasimple. Para namang hindi kayo nag-iisip o wala kayong isip? Kayo na ang nanloko kayo pa ang galit.

    Mabuti nga may mga forum na ganito naiiwasan mga kagaya nyong manloloko, mga manggagantso!

    ALPERZ SUCKS!
    Last edited by Syuryuken; December 16th, 2006 at 10:16 AM.

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    #26
    Ganda naman timing... ok na yung newly posted remarks ng isang "SATISFIED CUSTOMER" tapos bigla namang may threat via PM... ano kaya yun?

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    #27
    I remember wiretap_md complaining about Autotechnika recently. Wala namang pinadalang threatening remarks ang Autotechnika to any forum mod.

    I think what they did (via torque2006) was apologize, adjust their policies and check their records of wiretap's Nissan Patrol. They even had him return to the shop for corrective work at no charge.

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    #28
    Nice move alperz.. you just stirred up a hornet's nest

    Thank you for showing us how professional you can really be.

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    know yourself and your enemy and you will never have to fear the outcome of a thousand battles. -sun tzu

    and here you are picking a fight with people you dont even know. galing.
    Last edited by Chip; December 16th, 2006 at 10:07 AM.

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    #29
    wow.. no one will go to your shop now.

    Good luck with business.

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    #30
    Tsk tsk...

    How professional...

    and to make things worse... (as posted by anton_lancer89 in mymitsu)

    RA8792 E-Commerce Law:

    Hacking or cracking, refers to unauthorized access including the introduction of computer viruses, is punishable by a fine from 100 thousand to maximum commensurating to the damage. With imprisonment from 6 months to 3 years.

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