ALERT: Goons with Guns - Isuzu Trooper "MLP-636"

**fireblade** · January 20th, 2010 11:17 AM

Update!

Spoke with the nephew of the registered owner. According to Mr. Dante Bonifacio they sold it to a buy and sell with an open deed of sale. End of the story, they dont even have an acknowledgement from the dealer. They purchased a new SUV right after Ondoy and they needed to sell the Trooper immediately.

**rai711** · January 21st, 2010 03:37 AM

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**cktlcmd** · January 21st, 2010 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by shadow

eh sabi bumababa yun guy sa Civic to "explain" yun side niya doon sa Trooper...why would he do still do that? nakalagpas na diba...so if he just opted to just go on his way eh di tapos na. IMO hinde lang niya gusto mag explain but rather bumaba and wanted to confront yun Trooper. so the guy in Trooper just pull out his gun. mali pa if a guy went out his way after an altercation would you think na mag explain lang daw siya. come on.

tingin ko mayabang din yun Civic owner or something, tingin ko talaga hinde lang niya gusto mag explain but rather to confront yun Trooper. eh nagulat meron palang baril yun Trooper ayun nilabas na lang niya tuloy yun camera niya...

let me ask all of you after an altercation with another vehicle will you go down and approach the other car just to explain your side? you go down bec you're on attack mode and want to confront the other vehicle.

I also believe this is the case.

**ozcity** · January 21st, 2010 10:05 AM

eh sabi bumababa yun guy sa Civic to "explain" yun side niya doon sa Trooper...why would he do still do that? nakalagpas na diba...so if he just opted to just go on his way eh di tapos na. IMO hinde lang niya gusto mag explain but rather bumaba and wanted to confront yun Trooper. so the guy in Trooper just pull out his gun. mali pa if a guy went out his way after an altercation would you think na mag explain lang daw siya. come on.

kung ganyan nga ang nangyari na binabaan yung trooper..may "asta" nga yung naka civic...e kaso may bakal pala yung naka trooper...

..kasi ako kung bababaan ako , parang naghahamon na yun

**HBOY** · January 21st, 2010 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by fireblade

Update!

Spoke with the nephew of the registered owner. According to Mr. Dante Bonifacio they sold it to a buy and sell with an open deed of sale. End of the story, they dont even have an acknowledgement from the dealer. They purchased a new SUV right after Ondoy and they needed to sell the Trooper immediately.

I dont think that's the end of the story. Walang nagbebenta ng kotse (kahit open deed of sale pa ang bentahan), ng wala kang pinanghahawakan na identity nung bumili sa iyo. It is quite irresponsible of the previous owner to sell the car without anything to hold on to on who bought his car.

Eto na ang scenario. Open deed of sale, ginamit ang kotse sa kalokohan. Sino mananagot?. walang pinanghahawakan na nabenta ang kotse nung dating may ari. Patay ka. Ikaw ang liable. The burden of proof that the car is no longer in the possesion of the previous owner is now on him... tsk.tsk.. kaya ako, i make sure i have ids of the person buying my car and written proof na sya ang bumili.

**xtremerider** · January 21st, 2010 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by HBOY

I dont think that's the end of the story. Walang nagbebenta ng kotse (kahit open deed of sale pa ang bentahan), ng wala kang pinanghahawakan na identity nung bumili sa iyo. It is quite irresponsible of the previous owner to sell the car without anything to hold on to on who bought his car.

Eto na ang scenario. Open deed of sale, ginamit ang kotse sa kalokohan. Sino mananagot?. walang pinanghahawakan na nabenta ang kotse nung dating may ari. Patay ka. Ikaw ang liable. The burden of proof that the car is no longer in the possesion of the previous owner is now on him... tsk.tsk.. kaya ako, i make sure i have ids of the person buying my car and written proof na sya ang bumili.

+1000. Kung ito man ay naibenta sa used car showroom, dapat ang deed of sale ay naka identify yun may ari ng showroom dahil sya ang bumili dun sa pevious owner.

Ang malaking tanong??? sino ang bagong may ari nitong Trooper...

**claRkEnt** · January 21st, 2010 01:01 PM

well, with the picture of that a**hole all-over the place (internet forums, newspaper), madali na yan if the authorities will really have the will to haunt him down.

**jet_sinker** · January 21st, 2010 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by HBOY

I dont think that's the end of the story. Walang nagbebenta ng kotse (kahit open deed of sale pa ang bentahan), ng wala kang pinanghahawakan na identity nung bumili sa iyo. It is quite irresponsible of the previous owner to sell the car without anything to hold on to on who bought his car.

Eto na ang scenario. Open deed of sale, ginamit ang kotse sa kalokohan. Sino mananagot?. walang pinanghahawakan na nabenta ang kotse nung dating may ari. Patay ka. Ikaw ang liable. The burden of proof that the car is no longer in the possesion of the previous owner is now on him... tsk.tsk.. kaya ako, i make sure i have ids of the person buying my car and written proof na sya ang bumili.

+1 agree as well.

**shadow** · January 21st, 2010 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by xtremerider

+1000. Kung ito man ay naibenta sa used car showroom, dapat ang deed of sale ay naka identify yun may ari ng showroom dahil sya ang bumili dun sa pevious owner.

Ang malaking tanong??? sino ang bagong may ari nitong Trooper...

I guess our in-house investigator would have that answer soon...

**fireblade** · January 21st, 2010 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by HBOY

I dont think that's the end of the story. Walang nagbebenta ng kotse (kahit open deed of sale pa ang bentahan), ng wala kang pinanghahawakan na identity nung bumili sa iyo. It is quite irresponsible of the previous owner to sell the car without anything to hold on to on who bought his car.

Eto na ang scenario. Open deed of sale, ginamit ang kotse sa kalokohan. Sino mananagot?. walang pinanghahawakan na nabenta ang kotse nung dating may ari. Patay ka. Ikaw ang liable. The burden of proof that the car is no longer in the possesion of the previous owner is now on him... tsk.tsk.. kaya ako, i make sure i have ids of the person buying my car and written proof na sya ang bumili.

Gave an advice or two to the nephew of the owner. Here is their complete story based on our conversation. The Trooper was displayed outside their office in Marikina. A lot of dealers went until they really had to sell it immediately for only 500,000. The owner signed an open deed of sale with the dealer who just walked in. The dealer promised to come back with the notarized deed of sale when they get to sell it. Unfortunately, poor owner did not give any receipt at all. I asked them, "kahit mobile phone nung nakabili wala ka"? They answered on the negative. Lesson learned, never ever sell a vehicle without a copy of a contract or ID of the buyer.

Now the burden of proof lies with the previous owner. She has to establish the fact that she sold it. Otherwise, it will just be her word that she sold it.