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    #21
    o, ano na nangyari sa mga lintek na ASG na yan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark_t View Post
    Pare wag ka mahiya, kakaunti lang ang sundalo natin at hindi lang pina paalam
    sa mga taong bayan. Madami talaga mga yan, ang kalaban
    natin ay OIC-Organization of Islamic Countries.

    Ang M203 ng ARMY 2 lang pumuputok sa 10. Yon sa kanila made in malaysia
    lahat pumuputok. Yon NVG natin 10 meters lang kaya sa dilim, yon kanila
    made in Canada.

    Sacripisyo ginagawa ng mga sundalo natin. Huwag ka mahiya.

    Paano na tayo?
    We will be better armed than our ARMY! Ganoon
    yon. Mahalin mo pamilya mo dahil sila makakasama mo sa laban.
    No sense in feeling helpless. Marami kang magagawa.
    Kung kaya mo bumili ng kotse, kaya mo rin ibili sarili mo at asawa
    mo ng kit niya.

    Wag ka matakot sa mga Alipin ng mga arabo. Kaya natin yan.

    Galing sila sa dagat, at ibabalik natin sila sa dagat.
    i read somewhere once na the main purpose of all these terrorist attacks is that fundamentalist muslims would very much like to establish an islamist society, or islamist hegemony across all the nations on earth. that is why ang laki ng galit nila sa amerikano... americans being major democratic/christian powers.

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    #23
    May state of emergency at curfew na sa Jolo. Wala pang balita kung may napugutan na.

    Si Gordon, nasa national TV, made an appeal ( w/ matching tears pa) to free and spare the lives of the 3 ICRC workers.
    Last edited by chua_riwap; March 31st, 2009 at 05:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    May state of emergency at curfew na sa Jolo. Wala pang balita kung may napugutan na.

    Si Gordon, nasa national TV, made an appeal ( w/ matching tears pa) to free and spare the lives of the 3 ICRC workers.
    goddamn why isn't the army going into the jungle going rambo on those ASG jerks?? i don't think its about preserving lives anymore anyway... it's about showing who's got the pants in this country.

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    Not rambo.... rather snipe them down. Pick them off from a distance. A few mercenary sniper teams (sniper and observer) would be enough to reduce their numbers to zero very quickly.

    How to find them? ... just follow the news team to their "meeting" area and them follow them back to where they call home.

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    #26
    They're compromising hundreds of lives because of the stupid pullout. Why not just sacrifice those 3? Parang pinagpalit mo ung local candy vs. Skittles

    Dapat ang pugutan si Gordon eh, pumapel pa. Sa Subic ka lang malakas Dick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucius View Post
    They're compromising hundreds of lives because of the stupid pullout. Why not just sacrifice those 3? Parang pinagpalit mo ung local candy vs. Skittles

    Dapat ang pugutan si Gordon eh, pumapel pa. Sa Subic ka lang malakas Dick
    bro, buhay pa rin yan. wag naman natin sila isacrifice. gawin pa rin nila ang safest way.

    pero once maretrieve na ang mga hostage, OPEN FIRE na dapat!

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    #28
    ewan ko ba.... kung tutuusin, kaya naman ubusin ng militar yan eh.... palibhasa meron nakikinabang na mga opisyales sa existence ng mga yan kaya buhay pa rin..... sira na naman tayo sa paningin ng international community.....

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    #29
    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    Why hasn't our government hire experienced mercenaries to hunt these guys down? It would be cheaper and requires no paperwork as well.
    Marami ding nakikinabang sa kidnappings aside from the Abu Sayyaf. Sa negotiations, magkano kaya itinaas ng ransom? "Interest rates"?

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    #30
    a lot of people are making a lot of money because of these incidents. no wonder high officials ng AFP are having luxurious lives. congressman nga, approximaetly Php 35K lang monthly salary tapos may rest houses at SUVs. ganun din sa AFP, isa 'to sa malamang na pinanggagalingan ng pondo nila pambayad sa newly built houses at newly acquired SUVs.

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    #31
    Tawagin na si Arnie, jessie Ventura et al...kung kaya nila ang predator kaya din nila yan

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    ^^the asg is a "creation of the State"...to divert some important issues affecting the leadership to a seemingly more pressing and urgent problem of kidnapping. just probe deeper into the timing of kidnapping. there is always a twin or multiples of national issues accompanying kidnapping. when the government couldn't give us the answer...innocent souls are kidnapped.

    konti lang ang asg...asg is not Mindanao. why the hell the AFP cant pulverize them? the answer is simple: THE ASG SHIELDS THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF. it's comes with a premium...money had been laundered. if money comes as one of the perks, it's a temptation too gargantuan to resist. kawawa lang ang mga matitinong sundalo na napapasabak sa crisis.

    how many kidnappings were there and declared over? why not attack them during the lull?

    just my simple thoughts on the problem.

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    Wala pa ba yun mga technology tulad yun mga nakikita natin sa mga pelikula? yun makikita mo sa satellite mga tao kahit na sa gubat? thermal imaging ba iyon? Kung meron dapat ang US ang tumulong sa atin sa pag hanap sa mga ASG na iyan. Wala na daw sa dati nilang pwesto mga ASG na iyan e.

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    #34
    Quote Originally Posted by ab_initio View Post
    ^^the asg is a "creation of the State"...to divert some important issues affecting the leadership to a seemingly more pressing and urgent problem of kidnapping. just probe deeper into the timing of kidnapping. there is always a twin or multiples of national issues accompanying kidnapping. when the government couldn't give us the answer...innocent souls are kidnapped.

    konti lang ang asg...asg is not Mindanao. why the hell the AFP cant pulverize them? the answer is simple: THE ASG SHIELDS THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF. it's comes with a premium...money had been laundered. if money comes as one of the perks, it's a temptation too gargantuan to resist. kawawa lang ang mga matitinong sundalo na napapasabak sa crisis.

    how many kidnappings were there and declared over? why not attack them during the lull?

    just my simple thoughts on the problem.
    possible eto... pero yung sinabi mo na "asg shields the commander in chief", that is shocking! pero i respect your point of view... kasi, noon pa yan sila, pero hindi maubos-ubos. even milf!

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    #35
    Hindi talaga uubusin ng military ang mga ASG at MILF, kasi pag

    [SIZE="5"]"Walang Giyera, Walang Pera!"[/SIZE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    Wala pa ba yun mga technology tulad yun mga nakikita natin sa mga pelikula? yun makikita mo sa satellite mga tao kahit na sa gubat? thermal imaging ba iyon? Kung meron dapat ang US ang tumulong sa atin sa pag hanap sa mga ASG na iyan. Wala na daw sa dati nilang pwesto mga ASG na iyan e.
    possible ito Sir...meron technology to place them under the government's radar but the question is: are they really sincere in destroying the asg? ang nakita kong nagseryoso lang dito ay ang mga sundalong namatay sa bakbakan or yung nasa frontline ng giyera. pwede ba, style nila bulok? they are insulting the nation's intelligence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ab_initio View Post
    possible ito Sir...meron technology to place them under the government's radar but the question is: are they really sincere in destroying the asg? ang nakita kong nagseryoso lang dito ay ang mga sundalong namatay sa bakbakan or yung nasa frontline ng giyera. pwede ba, style nila bulok? they are insulting the nation's intelligence.
    Oo nga,tandaan ko may isang incidente dati napaligiran na ng mga sundalo sa isang lugar(hospital o school) sa Basilan ang mga ASG, tapos may nagutos na magwithdraw mga sundalo sa lugar kaya nakatakas ang mga bandido

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    Small encounters to keep the money flowing.....

    7707:band:

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    #39
    o, may pinalaya na sila. good thing, ang filipina ang inuna. bad thing, hawak nila ang foreigners...

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    ^^ Si Lacaba yung ini-released.

    Naiwan na lang yung 2 foreigners.



    http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakin...s-worker-freed
    2 April 2009



    ZAMBOANGA CITY – (UPDATE 5) The Filipina Red Cross worker who has been kidnapped, along with two of her colleagues, has been freed, authorities have said.

    Chief Superintendent Felizardo Serapio Jr., head of the Western Mindanao police's directorate for integrated police operations, said Engineer Mary Jean Lacaba of the International Committee of the Red Cross was in their custody.

    “Magulo pa sa ngayon, she’s already with us,” Serapio told the Philippine Daily Inquirer by phone.

    But Serapio said they were still trying to determine the exact time of her release and where she was set free. Senator Richard Gordon, chairman of the Philippine National Red Cross, announced Lacaba's release on television but did not elaborate.

    Lacaba was released by the Abu Sayyaf around 7:15 p.m. but no information was immediately available on her two companions, Swiss Andreas Notter and Italian Eugenio Vagni, according to a source who was not authorized to speak to media. Lacaba was freed in Barangay Paligi, a village bordering Indanan and Parang towns, according to the Philippine Daily Inquirer informant, who has direct knowledge of the release.

    The informant said Lacaba was handed over to Sulu Vice Governor Nuranna Sahidulla, who went near Paligui after having been told by Congressman Yusop Jikiri to go there.

    “(She was released) somewhere near the Barangay of Paligui, it’s a fishing village just adjacent to Barangay Kuppong, and Vice Governor Nuranna Sahidulla was already notified by Sulu Congressman Yusop Jikiri to secure her from the area,” the source said.

    Sahidulla, he said, was escorted by Brigadier General Eugene Clemen, commander of the 3rd Marine Brigade. The informant said the Abu Sayyaf group that handed her over was led by Abdul Gafur Jikiri who could not be contacted despite repeated attempts.

    “The governor (Sakur Tan) has no knowledge about all these things here, in fact he was surprised about the report,” the source added. “She’s fine and she is undergoing medical treatment,” Serapio said without elaborating.

    Serapio said that Lacaba would immediately be brought to this city “first thing early in the morning tomorrow (Friday)."

    But a source from the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) said they wanted to get hold of her as soon as they could.

    “And we are not going to allow any agencies from the Philippine government to conduct the debriefing, it’s a policy of the ICRC that the debriefing will be done by the ICRC,” the source said.

    The ICRC informant said Lacaba was expected to be flown out of the country soon.

    Cedric Piralla, ICRC head of delegation in Davao City, where Lacaba came from, said they could only confirm her release if they saw her. “I am sorry but I cannot confirm or deny if Mary Jean is free, we need to see her in person,” Piralla said.

    As of posting time, Lacaba is undergoing check up and debriefing at the marine camp, said assistant secretary for public affairs Brian Yamsuan of the Department of Interior and Local Government in a phone interview with INQUIRER.net.

    Yamsuan said they have yet to contact the kidnappers again on whether Vagni and Notter would be released soon.

    Clemen, officer-in- charge of the Joint Task Force Comet, in a separate interview with INQUIRER.net said that Lacaba was now at the hospital of the 3rd Marine Brigade in Sulu.

    Fadzlur Raman, spokesman of the Task Force ICRC crisis committee, said that Lacaba was in good and healthy condition.

    It has been 78 days since the three Red Cross workers have been held captive by the Abu Sayyaf in the province of Sulu.

    Task Force ICRC, headed by Sulu Governor Tan, was the multi-agency team that has been negotiating for the release of the hostages who were seized January 15.

    With reports from Abigail Kwok, Katherine Evangelista and Erika Tapalla INQUIRER.net; Michael Ubac, Inquirer
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