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    From the April 2005 issue of the influential Consumer Reports magazine, the least reliable cars according to 400,000 Americans surveyed:

    Small cars: Volkswagen Golf(turbo),Volkswagen Jetta(turbo), Volkswagen New Bettle

    Sports cars/Covertibles: Hyundai Tiburon,Mercedes-Benz CLK, Volkswagen Cabrio,Mazda RX-8,Chrysler Sebring convertible

    Sedans: Mercedes-Benz S-class,Jaguar S-type,BMW 7-series,Jaguar X-type,Mercedes E-class,Mercedes-Benz C-class (V6),Volvo S60(AWD),Saab 9-3,Pontiac Grand Prix (supercharged),Volkswagen Passat(AWD),BMW 5-series

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    Puro VW sa small cars ah. Ano daw ang madalas mag break down?

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    tsktsk just goes to show high price does not = reliable car. no toyota, honda, nissan or mitsu whatsoever! hurrah for the japs! except for mazda..

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    Gusto ko pa naman sana yung 1.8T na Jetta... GTI na lang.

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    Ako gusto ko pa naman yung VW Golf(turbo) ganda kase nung shape eh..hehe
    Ano ba madalas nasisira?
    Wow BMW 7 series sirain..tapos Benz at Jaguar..Mga favorite cars ko pa naman yun..

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    this is a surprise...impression ko pa naman pag German e matibay. Well, except maybe for the beetle; pakiramdam ko people like it for sentimental, not technical, reasons. air cooled engines in Manila traffic? what were they thinking?!?

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    Benz S-class, BMW 7 Series? these cars breach the 5 million purchase price. and yet they are still not reliable..what a bummer

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    Yes, if you frequent foreign boards ng mga German cars, a common sentiment is "My insert any Toyota, Lexus, Honda, Acura car here costs 30% less and doesn't give me any problems"... hehe

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    afaik bimmers are far less reliable than a civic or rolla. prestige lng talaga binabayaran dyan hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBimmer
    tsktsk just goes to show high price does not = reliable car. no toyota, honda, nissan or mitsu whatsoever! hurrah for the japs! except for mazda..
    i think some nissan and mazda trucks/SUVs are included in the trucks/SUVs category (proceed to the other forum)

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    astig!!!..mas reliable pa pala mag KIA kesa sa mag benz..hmmmm....

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    Actually, the Golf, new Beetle, Mercs and BMWs all suffer from various electrical problems. But this is all relative. BMW has released a lot of new platforms lately, and there are always a lot of bugs to be ironed out in new products. Mercedes had LOTS of problems with the last E-Class, and they're still recovering from the fallout. AFAIK, people have ALWAYS complained about Bugs in the Golf.

    The RX-8 is the only sour note (so far) in Mazda's "revolution". But the only problems I've heard about are related to fuel consumption...

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renelmac
    astig!!!..mas reliable pa pala mag KIA kesa sa mag benz..hmmmm....
    I wouldn't go that far...

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    The advantage of Kia is, WHEN it does break down, the parts are dirt cheap...

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Labo ng survey na yun! Magko-commute na lang ako. benta ko na benz ko!

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    for the new generation of bimmers, the "achilles heel" is its iDrive computer box. they claim, however, that they already de-bugged the system for the new generation 3er's, 7er's and the 6er's. overall though, these bimmers are still very reliable.

    from my personal experience in owning an E36 3er, I am quite dissappointed by its relative unreliability in the medium to long term.

    Honda and Toyota, however, have made it a corporate mantra to be the most reliable car brand in the world. The "MIND SET" in their corporate culture really espouses reliability and dependability which are thus manifested in their products.

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    german cars kasi puro hi-tech electronics ang kotse kaya bugs ang problema whereas sa mga japanese cars, simple but sure ang mga cars nila.

    just my .02

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    can we quantify it further... less reliable in terms of WHAT?

    engine? electricals? body? suspension?

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    yung biyenan ng officemate ko meron bmw sedan 5 series.. twice na daw tumirik sa daan due to computer failure.. windows daw pala OS.. kahit daw ipa-reboot ng bmw ayaw pa din.. ayun ni-tow..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    can we quantify it further... less reliable in terms of WHAT?

    engine? electricals? body? suspension?

    ayun...the word is quantify...herhehrer..kanina ko pa iniisip kung ano eh..herhehrer...sabaw nanaman utak ko.cheng.

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