negative camber

[badkuk]

a lot of cars i've seen seen to have a negative camber, at least on the rear wheels. makikita mo talaga that the wheels lean into the body. akala ko nung una, baka maluwag lang ang pagkakabit ng lug nuts; pero sobrang coincidence naman that both wheels are angled that way.

any benefits in doing so, considering it's just everyday driving?

[1D4LV]

actually wala... it just makes your tire wear out faster.
pero kung racing or drift, meron. better handling.

[ozcity]

baka lowered...to avoid fender rubbing...

[niky]

A lot of new cars have the rear wheels cambered in as stock to counter a tendency to oversteer.

New cars, see, have much stiffer bodies and suspensions than old cars. A stiffer body means keener handling. Unfortunately, too stiff a body and suspension and a car will have the tendency to snap-oversteer under sudden braking in turns, because the rear wheels lose contact with the road.

This is great for racecar drivers and boyracers, but for 99% of drivers out there, it's downright scary.

To counter this, manufacturers are putting negative camber on the rear wheels of cars with a stiff chassis, like the Mazda3. On other new cars, like the Honda City, the beam axle in the rear doesn't give you adjustable camber, so they resort to other methods, like using thinner anti-roll bars and sway bars to "soften" the rear suspension laterally without losing vertical stiffness.

[AG4]

a lot of cars i've seen seen to have a negative camber, at least on the rear wheels. makikita mo talaga that the wheels lean into the body. akala ko nung una, baka maluwag lang ang pagkakabit ng lug nuts; pero sobrang coincidence naman that both wheels are angled that way.

Camber
If you were to stand directly behind or in front of one of your tires to view its vertical angle, you would be looking at its camber. Actually, camber is most often set between 0 and -2 degrees, so you'd be hard pressed to see any lean at all. Negative camber refers to a wheel that is leaning inward with its top closer to the vehicle than its bottom. Positive camber, surprise-surprise, is the opposite, and means that a wheel leans out with its top further from the vehicle than its bottom. Many of the original Volkswagen Beetles had noticeable negative camber in the rear tires which made them look like they were squatting all of the time. A slight amount of negative camber setting is desirable because as a vehicle turns the outside wheels get pushed into a more positive camber state. This results in a camber of zero, or a straight up-and-down wheel, while cornering, which provides the largest contact patch and the greatest traction for handling.

-edmunds tech center

Ricers/Boy Racers exaggerate this for looks... the "trying hard to look like a racecar look".
Too much camber will wear out the inner part of your tires.

akala ko nung una, baka maluwag lang ang pagkakabit ng lug nuts

wheels rotate, so if the lug nuts are loose and the wheel is not bolted down to the hub, as the wheel rotates it will wiggle.

[slicker_boi]

Negative camber makes cars more stable in cornering. When turning, the tendency is better contact patch from the outer tires.

[aceshark]

naalala ko tuloy yung camber nung classic beetle...

[badkuk]

hmmm, are there tires that are designed specifically for this? ambilis kasi talaga mapupod pag grabe ung angle

[slip-slick]

naalala ko tuloy yung camber nung classic beetle...

super positive camber naman ung sa bug.. ganun ba talaga pag ka design nun? ung mga 2deg camber nga, lakas na ng kain sa gulong, e ung sa bug, parang 20deg camber ung sa likod..

[AG4]

super positive camber naman ung sa bug.. ganun ba talaga pag ka design nun?

Older Beetles had swing axle rear suspension, when there is little load it has positive camber, when you put some load it becomes zero camber, if you put a heavier load the rear suspension camber becaomes a bit negative.


Newer Beetles have Porsche style suspension with semi-trailing arms and half-shafts with CV joints on both ends, so regardless of the load, the wheels stay almost vertical.