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  1. Join Date
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    nakabili kami ng 2nd hand na kotse sa halagang 160k. (honda jazz / fit 2002 model) ok naman siya ng tinest drive, tahimik makina, maganda takbo. ang dineclare lang ng seller na problema is yung faded paint at sirang susian ng mga pinto. Long drive pauwi, lumabas ang mga sira, pinacheck sa mekaniko:

    1. valve cover gasket
    2. cv joints
    3. manipis na rotor discs
    4. maingay na compressor
    5. namamatay aircon pag nag shift sa reverse
    6. matunog na steering
    7. may mahabang guhit na malalim sa windshield
    8. shock mounts
    9. may mga leaks sa rear seats kapag umuulan

    Ang tanong ko po, acceptable pa ba ang presyo ng pagkabili namin para dun sa mga ipapagawa? halos aabutin daw ng 20k ang total ng parts at labor, wala pa yung sa repaint. gusto na kasi sana ibalik na lang sa pinag bilhan. salamat po sa mga sasagot!

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    what is the going second gand prices of Jazz ba? it seems too good to be true for 160k eh. dunno if you brought a mechanic or a competent friend when you bought the vehicle

    if nireport mo agad sa seller yung mga issues eh there might be a chance na maibalik pa, pero don't get your hopes too high

    ask for another mechanic's opinion, parang bitin sa 20k. ibabalik ko yan if I were you

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    Quote Originally Posted by ParticleX View Post
    what is the going second gand prices of Jazz ba? it seems too good to be true for 160k eh. dunno if you brought a mechanic or a competent friend when you bought the vehicle

    if nireport mo agad sa seller yung mga issues eh there might be a chance na maibalik pa, pero don't get your hopes too high

    ask for another mechanic's opinion, parang bitin sa 20k. ibabalik ko yan if I were you
    180k to 200k po ang mga honda fit, nireport po namin agad yung issue na nasira pagkauwi (cv joint), pero ayaw makipag usap ng seller kasi maayos daw ng kinuha namin, inisip ko na lang baka nga dahil nalong drive eh bumigay lang yung cv joint. and nung pina check na sa mekaniko eh dun na lang nakita yung iba pang dapat palitan. ang kaso, wala na balak makipag usap si seller, dahil pinipilit nya na maayos daw yun ng kinuha namin.

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    Namamatay na aircon on reverse? As in pati fan namamatay?

    Guhit sa windshield? Basag?

    Suspension, brakes issues are normal for used cars...

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    dapat kasi bago mo binili eh pina check mo muna mabuti.para walang sisihan maski ako ang may ari hindi ako papayag na ibalik sa akin kasi nga tinest drive mo sigurado yan at ginusto mo bago mo bayaran at sigurado dika naman pinilit ng seller na bayaran mo ung tsikot niya.kaya kung ako sayo paayos mo nalang..

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    Wala ng habol sa seller yan. "As is where is" basis yan. Kaya hindi na nakikipag usap yun seller.

    Charge to experience mo nalang sir, next time kapag bibili kayo preowned, make sure to test drive and bring your own mechanic.

    Paayos niyo nalang o benta niyo nalang ulit kahit palugi

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    AS IS WHERE IS pag 2nd hand. wala na habol yan. dapat chineck mo ng husto.

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    sold price isnt that bad. it couldve been lower if you inspected before purchase and haggled.

    repair price isnt bad also...

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    Di mo na masoli yan. Kung mura mo naman nakuha, atleast may allowance ka ipaayos. Paayos mo na lang. Pero subukan mo pa 2nd opinion para sure ka sa sira

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    Quote Originally Posted by echikuo07 View Post
    nakabili kami ng 2nd hand na kotse sa halagang 160k. (honda jazz / fit 2002 model) ok naman siya ng tinest drive, tahimik makina, maganda takbo. ang dineclare lang ng seller na problema is yung faded paint at sirang susian ng mga pinto. Long drive pauwi, lumabas ang mga sira, pinacheck sa mekaniko:

    1. valve cover gasket
    2. cv joints
    3. manipis na rotor discs
    4. maingay na compressor
    5. namamatay aircon pag nag shift sa reverse
    6. matunog na steering
    7. may mahabang guhit na malalim sa windshield
    8. shock mounts
    9. may mga leaks sa rear seats kapag umuulan

    Ang tanong ko po, acceptable pa ba ang presyo ng pagkabili namin para dun sa mga ipapagawa? halos aabutin daw ng 20k ang total ng parts at labor, wala pa yung sa repaint. gusto na kasi sana ibalik na lang sa pinag bilhan. salamat po sa mga sasagot!
    if there is no written or verbal or even implied warranty, then it was an as-is-where-is purchase.
    wala habol.

    so, adding 20K to the 160K, makes 180K. isn't that just about the going rate for that model?
    perhaps, you feel bad because you feel na na-isahan ka.
    but if you look at it from the money angle... it's not really bad.
    i have heard of worse scenarios, from "later-model" cars.
    Last edited by dr. d; October 1st, 2017 at 07:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    Namamatay na aircon on reverse? As in pati fan namamatay?

    Guhit sa windshield? Basag?

    Suspension, brakes issues are normal for used cars...

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    yes po, parang dahil sa cutter, dun yata sa naglagay ng tint dati, isang diretso na guhit po na malalim e, yung sa aircon, namamatay po yung compressor pag reverse, kumbaga nawawala yung lamig, pero naka fan pa din sya.

    maraming salamat po sa lahat ng nagbigay ng opinyon at kasagutan. mukhang masakit nga lang po sa kalooban dahil parang isang bagsakan lahat ng sira, though aware naman po kami na 2nd hand sigurado may mga sira, nakakatakot lang kasi na baka umabot na ng 200k ang gastos eh di pa ubos yung sira. pero mukhang aabot nga ng 200k dahil kailangan na din irepaint haha. anyways, lesson learned na din na wag magmadali sa pagbili at magsama ng mekaniko na marunong. thank you po ulit sa lahat

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    Pagawa nyo lang po sir.. na-experience ko na din yan masaklap kamag-anak ko pa nabilhan ko. pero di narin pumayag na ibalik namin.. kaya no choice pagawa nalng namin masakit sa kalooban tlga tagal ko din maka-move on hehehe.. kung 160k bili nyo pwede na tapos plus pagawa nyo halimbawa 20k to 30k gagastusin nyo so aabot na sya ng 200k lahat.. pwede narin kc 200k t0 210k presyuhan ng mga Jazz na 2002 model na good condition na din.

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    about the windsheild, nakita mo dapat yan early...

    di naman ata basag so gamitin mo munang ganyan.

    ***

    personally eto list of repairs ko for 2nd hand cars...

    1. brakes check - change pad (if required), check for leaks. Depende sa itim ng fluid, pinapalitan k din ng bago (ingat sa pag palit ng fluid, may experience ako na nag leak yung rubber ng pistons ng brakes ko since di nag matach yung old and new fluids ko)

    2. aircon - linis/check. just to be sure

    3. alignment

    4. bushings and suspension

    cosmetic repairs, sounds and seat covers will go last.

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    20K might not be enough for the repairs you listed. In my opinion medyo talo ka pre. Pero andyan na yan, i dont think the seller would agree to get the car back. Paayos mo na lang and sulitin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean-archer View Post
    20K might not be enough for the repairs you listed. In my opinion medyo talo ka pre. Pero andyan na yan, i dont think the seller would agree to get the car back. Paayos mo na lang and sulitin.
    Tama paayos mo kunti tapos binta mo.and bili ka bago..

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    brad 200k for repairs?

    cut your losses. not worth spending 200k on a 150k junk.

    sell the junk fast...



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    Quote Originally Posted by echikuo07 View Post
    nakabili kami ng 2nd hand na kotse sa halagang 160k. (honda jazz / fit 2002 model) ok naman siya ng tinest drive, tahimik makina, maganda takbo. ang dineclare lang ng seller na problema is yung faded paint at sirang susian ng mga pinto. Long drive pauwi, lumabas ang mga sira, pinacheck sa mekaniko:

    1. valve cover gasket
    2. cv joints
    3. manipis na rotor discs
    4. maingay na compressor
    5. namamatay aircon pag nag shift sa reverse
    6. matunog na steering
    7. may mahabang guhit na malalim sa windshield
    8. shock mounts
    9. may mga leaks sa rear seats kapag umuulan

    Ang tanong ko po, acceptable pa ba ang presyo ng pagkabili namin para dun sa mga ipapagawa? halos aabutin daw ng 20k ang total ng parts at labor, wala pa yung sa repaint. gusto na kasi sana ibalik na lang sa pinag bilhan. salamat po sa mga sasagot!
    Since you said 2002 model na Fit yun at 160k lang, malamang Japan surplus converted unit ang nabili mo. This often means that the steering system, front suspension and aircon system have been raped/violated/cannibalized.

    Sure ka 20k lang daw lahat yan maayos na? O 200k? Hehe~ If 20k nga lang daw, pagawan mo na. I spent around 120k thereabouts to get our Japan surplus Granvia to roadworthy condition. This included replacing pretty much the entire front suspension (upper and lower arms and shocks) plus the sagging coil springs in the rear. Of course most importantly, the converted steering rack had to go too. Radiator overhaul was done just to play safe. AC compressor needed overhauling, AC ducts (they used orange PVC tubes!) and cooling coil needed replacing, and general cleaning for the AC system. Roof needed repainting since it was faded and rusting in some places. Windshield was leaking rainwater so I had to have it resealed. Brake master cylinder and rear drum assembly also needed replacing. Of course I also replaced the old non-working stereo, exhausted battery and installed HIDs too. Was it worth it? Yes! Ride quality is the best among all the cars in our garage, bulletproof 1KZ engine has never failed me even in long drives (Laguna, Tagaytay, Pampanga and Baguio) and has so far covered 11tkms since we got it around September last year.

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    Ibenta mo na agad yan paps.

    Dati muntik narin ako mapabili ng 2nd hand na lancer hotdog at 70k. Chineck ko muna at drive test. ayun maganda pa manakbo yung owner type jeep namin dati haha.

    mas maganda gawin, get a brand new car. maybe accent crdi or honda city. Or Kei car para affordable talaga.

    Ganun din kasi magagastos mo monthly kakapaayos. Para kang naghuhulog sa brnadnew car. And at the end of the day, you will end up buying a brand new car dahil sa sobrang stress at sakit sa ulo.

    Nasabi ko nga na muntik na ko mapabili ng 2nd hand na lancer na 70k sa OLX na fresh in and out. haha

    Nag down ako sa celerio ng 58k and 10k monthly. At ngayon 10 months nalang matatapos na sya. I am opting na bayaran na lahat ng balanse para matapos na.

    So far satisfied naman ako kahit maliit ang oto ko. Fluids, air box filter, and 1 gulong palang napalitan ko. Baterya pala kakabili ko lang kahapon. Bumigay na after 4 years and a couple of months.

    And sa long drives, walang kaba. twice narin ako umakyat ng Baguio yung 1 liter ko na kotse.

    OK lang bumili ng 2nd hand na medyo laspag na sa presyong pamigay at kung mechanically inclined ka.

    Just to add. Ok din ang 2nd hand basta modelo pa. Or kung kilala mo personally ang dating may ari at alam mo ang history ng kotse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kris_13 View Post
    Ibenta mo na agad yan paps.

    Dati muntik narin ako mapabili ng 2nd hand na lancer hotdog at 70k. Chineck ko muna at drive test. ayun maganda pa manakbo yung owner type jeep namin dati haha.

    mas maganda gawin, get a brand new car. maybe accent crdi or honda city. Or Kei car para affordable talaga.

    Ganun din kasi magagastos mo monthly kakapaayos. Para kang naghuhulog sa brnadnew car. And at the end of the day, you will end up buying a brand new car dahil sa sobrang stress at sakit sa ulo.

    Nasabi ko nga na muntik na ko mapabili ng 2nd hand na lancer na 70k sa OLX na fresh in and out. haha

    Nag down ako sa celerio ng 58k and 10k monthly. At ngayon 10 months nalang matatapos na sya. I am opting na bayaran na lahat ng balanse para matapos na.

    So far satisfied naman ako kahit maliit ang oto ko. Fluids, air box filter, and 1 gulong palang napalitan ko. Baterya pala kakabili ko lang kahapon. Bumigay na after 4 years and a couple of months.

    And sa long drives, walang kaba. twice narin ako umakyat ng Baguio yung 1 liter ko na kotse.

    OK lang bumili ng 2nd hand na medyo laspag na sa presyong pamigay at kung mechanically inclined ka.

    Just to add. Ok din ang 2nd hand basta modelo pa. Or kung kilala mo personally ang dating may ari at alam mo ang history ng kotse.
    Tama.. boss maganda ba ang 2018 honda city vx navi compare sa mazda 2 rs 1.5 ? Patulong nmn boss i was planing to buy my 1stcar.. minsan nga nalilito na aq eh mag vios 1.3 a/t para fair.thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rey101 View Post
    Tama.. boss maganda ba ang 2018 honda city vx navi compare sa mazda 2 rs 1.5 ? Patulong nmn boss i was planing to buy my 1stcar.. minsan nga nalilito na aq eh mag vios 1.3 a/t para fair.thanks
    Kung sa presyo kasi di nagkakalayo ang vios, accent crdi, at city. Kung vios vs city. sa city ka na. Pero ibang usapang kasi ang accent kasi crdi sya.

    Nanonood ako ng mga review sa youtube. Ang pinagpipilian ko kasi next year is City or accent crdi. Yung manual ang plano ko.

    Isama mo na rin yung suzuki ciaz

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