Kwentuhan: Storya/Problema mo sa 2nd hand car mo

[1D4LV]

Mahal na tuition nga yan.
Pansin ko lang madalas nakaka bili ng best buy na auto e mga 2nd hand car dealer din, kasi sila unang aalokin ng mga mabilisang binta,

based on experience, yes. mas ok bumili sa dealers.... the worst thing they can do lang is to tamper your odo. pero kung titignan mo, ganun pa din, you will never know the condition of your engine's innards until it explodes in your face. unless during vehicle inspection, bubuksan mo talaga makina.

kung afford pa rin talaga, mas ok pa din kumuha ng brand new..... talo talo na lang sa depreciation.

[gearhead000]

based on experience, yes. mas ok bumili sa dealers.... the worst thing they can do lang is to tamper your odo. pero kung titignan mo, ganun pa din, you will never know the condition of your engine's innards until it explodes in your face. unless during vehicle inspection, bubuksan mo talaga makina.

kung afford pa rin talaga, mas ok pa din kumuha ng brand new..... talo talo na lang sa depreciation.

I was about to ask this - kung okay ba bumili sa 2nd hand dealers or directly sa owners. Feeling ko nga mas okay na siguro sa dealer. Syempre alam na nya presyuhan so for sure natawaran na rin sa owner yan, then konting patong na lang. Then kabisado na rin nila tumingin ng fresh at ng lemon. Tapos kahit papaano siguro me konting warranty rin. Agree ba kayo or hindi?

[xninjax]

2004 Altis (not much problems. I guess these are just wear and tear)
bought 2010
- replaced aircon magnetic clutch after 1 year - 3K
- replaced aircon evaporator after 3 years - 8K
- replaced radiator after 4 years- 6K


2005 Mazda 6
bought 2015
- replaced tie rod/rack end/support (etc na pang-ilalim) after i bought it - 25K
- replaced 4 tires - 20K
- fix aircon hoses - 2K
- replaced radiator after masira ung kabitan ng hose nung nagrepair sa aircon - 6K

[dishcom]

I was about to ask this - kung okay ba bumili sa 2nd hand dealers or directly sa owners. Feeling ko nga mas okay na siguro sa dealer. Syempre alam na nya presyuhan so for sure natawaran na rin sa owner yan, then konting patong na lang. Then kabisado na rin nila tumingin ng fresh at ng lemon. Tapos kahit papaano siguro me konting warranty rin. Agree ba kayo or hindi?

Malaki yung factor na ok ang auto kung galing sa dealer. Sabihin na natin na hindi naman sila bibili ng auto na hindi nila mabibinta... syempre may mga buyer na ma alam din sa auto or nag dadala ng marunong talaga sa auto. So panu nila mabibinta doon kung palpak ang nabili nila.

[kurochan_24]

Malaki yung factor na ok ang auto kung galing sa dealer. Sabihin na natin na hindi naman sila bibili ng auto na hindi nila mabibinta... syempre may mga buyer na ma alam din sa auto or nag dadala ng marunong talaga sa auto. So panu nila mabibinta doon kung palpak ang nabili nila.

Sir, question na rin. Kahit po ba sa dealers dapat me kasama pa rin akong mechanic, or mas mapagkakatiwalaan sila na at di din nila gusto mapahiya sa buyers kaya mas sure na okay ang kotse maski sabihing second hand? At saka sila napo ba bahala sa mga rehistro etc?

Natetempt na po ako bumili sa me pangalang dealer.

[1D4LV]

Mahal na tuition nga yan.
Pansin ko lang madalas nakaka bili ng best buy na auto e mga 2nd hand car dealer din, kasi sila unang aalokin ng mga mabilisang binta,

based on experience, yes. mas ok bumili sa dealers.... the worst thing they can do lang is to tamper your odo. pero kung titignan mo, ganun pa din, you will never know the condition of your engine's innards until it explodes in your face. unless during vehicle inspection, bubuksan mo talaga makina.

kung afford pa rin talaga, mas ok pa din kumuha ng brand new..... talo talo na lang sa depreciation.

[Mentis]

Anyway, expect things to repair talaga pag 2nd hand cars. Part ng wear & tear talaga yan ng aging mechanical moving equipments kahit gaano kaingat pa ang 1st owner sooner or later may lilitaw na problema. Kaya nga dapat din talaga i consider ng isang taong nagbabalak bumili ng car ke brand new o 2nd hand ang financial capability nya for keeping it.

[1D4LV]

Anyway, expect things to repair talaga pag 2nd hand cars. Part ng wear & tear talaga yan ng aging mechanical moving equipments kahit gaano kaingat pa ang 1st owner sooner or later may lilitaw na problema. Kaya nga dapat din talaga i consider ng isang taong nagbabalak bumili ng car ke brand new o 2nd hand ang financial capability nya for keeping it.

and observe due diligence talaga..... pag nasa iyo na yan, wala ka ng choice.

[1D4LV]

Anyway, expect things to repair talaga pag 2nd hand cars. Part ng wear & tear talaga yan ng aging mechanical moving equipments kahit gaano kaingat pa ang 1st owner sooner or later may lilitaw na problema. Kaya nga dapat din talaga i consider ng isang taong nagbabalak bumili ng car ke brand new o 2nd hand ang financial capability nya for keeping it.

and observe due diligence talaga..... pag nasa iyo na yan, wala ka ng choice.

[jodski]

Mazda 323 1994
Acquisition cost 70k
Mga pinaayos at pinapalitan during for the past 4 years:
1) 4 brand new tires na Kumho Solus 10,500

2) Cv joint right side and labor 4k

3) Replacement of the ac condenser, evaporator, compressor magnetic clutch, belts, condenser fan motor and extra fan plus labor 25k

4) 4 pcs shock absorbers plus labor 12k

5) Full engine overhaul and replace crankshaft, timing belt, and valves 25K

6) Replace rear wheel bearing left side 4k

7) Brake components and repair kits 4k

8) Replace hydrovac and clutch master 15k

9) Radiator repair 1k

10) Replace shifter bushings and crossmember bushings plus labor 2,500

11) Change oil parts 1k

12) Battery 6k

13) Installed grounding kit 500

14) Sony xplode head unit and pioneer speakers 8k

15) Carb repair 3k

16) Replace valve seals and top overhaul labor 12k

[jodski]

17) Replace crankshaft pulley and waterpump 10k

18) Replace spark plugs 600

19) Replace air filter element 300

All the lessons learned sa repairs nito was my baseline in choosing the Ertiga as the replacement ca

[jut703]

2004 Mazda 3
Got it at 95,000 km.

Problems:
1. Busted AT - replaced by seller (part of our agreement), I just contributed ATF. I'll be sending it back for a backjob because the shifter is stiff when shifting from M to D but otherwise it works well now.

2. Repaired/replaced suspension bits (shocks, mounts, tie rod) - not yet necessary but I'll have to replace it sooner or later anyway.

3. Changed oil and fuel filter, spark plugs

4. Upgraded to HID retrofit because stock headlights had weak output

5. Repaired bumper clips (broken again; lesson learned - never trust Banawe freelancers)

6. Aircon cleaning (didn't solve the minor whining problem which is probably a sign of an old blower)

Is it a stressful experience? A bit. We've spent quite a lot in fixing the car, and you really have to allot some time to it (I've spent most of my weekends for the past month).

But it's worth it. For a little over 300k including repairs, I have a fully functional TOTL sedan that actually has more toys than my brand new Altis (rain-sensing wipers, automatic HID headlamps, moon roof). Runs very well too, no problem hitting 180 on the highway. Haven't pushed it to its top speed but I'm expecting 190-195 perhaps.

You learn a lot about cars too. I admit it's not for everyone - those who know nothing about cars and have no interest will probably just pay exorbitant amounts for a brand new car because they don't wanna be bothered with repairs.

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[unmarked]

Nakakalumpo naman mga experience nyo! Haha i would consider myself lucky pala.

07 Altis 1.6G AT - 100k (acquired 2013)
Bargain deal.

Ondoy victim, pero owned by my father. New ecu, all liquids pinalitan, still drives like a dream. He wanted a ford ranger and was going to trade it in for 250k (2013). That time for the same model kaya pa pumalo ng 350 to 400k so biniro ko si erpats kunin ko 100k kesa naman malugi ka at least our family gets to keep the car. Pumayag!
All in all compared sa inyo hindi to sakit ng ulo:

2nd day of driving (gf driving) bumanga sa pader - 3k fender bender + sabog ung gulong 800 petot na 2nd hand

Spiral cable for busina 4k ko nabili sa banawe kasi ung nabili ko sa kasa na 1k hindi compatible dahil pang ibang year nabigay saken. Found out pwede lang pala ako bumili ng clip adaptor barya lang sana ginastos ko.

Evaporator bumigay, 10k

After 2 months

Compressor bumigay, 10k

Driver side power window, 1k pero band aid fix laging nasisira. Had to rewire the driver side window to the passenger side power window button 250 lang sa technician.

All in all having a car made me more responsible financially. For some reason ms may financial freedom ako ngayon than when I was commuting. It goes down to planning i guess. Always have an emergency fund. Hope i was able to contribute.

[jodski]

Hahaha hindi naman masyado nakakalumpo. I consider it exercise na lang pag kinakalas yung car. Grown ups Lego hehehe

[unmarked]

I have a friend who has spent money that far exceeds ung value ng auto nya (lancer singkit). I dunno if i can put up with that, parang money pit. Ika nga, charge to experience na lang.

[Juan Martinez]

i bought a 2001 pajero fieldmaster in the later part of 2014. i got it at 470k (it's the reason i joined tsikot because of the fm thread). since then i already replaced all the suspension parts except the adjustable shocks. i replaced also the starter, compressor, radiator, tires and rims, battery, alternator, stereo (with subwoofer), leather seats. installed fog lamps (and upgraded the headlamps), turbo timer, volt meter, dash cam, backing up sensor. i'll install a tpms soon. retrofitted it with a bumper overrider. i haven't tinkered with injection pump or the engine because it has yet to give me a headache (sooner or later it will). it actually costs me a little fortune, but i don't have regrets. it stresses me out though if i hear noise or vibration that's out of the ordinary.

[FamiliaGuy]

1997 Mazda 323 Gen 2.5
Acquired last May 2015
Acquisition cost 60k
Odo reading * 197k

Neglected car, owner has a lot of cars kaya binenta(di na nagagamit), Orig CR is missing(photocopy lang ang cr), CR is under the name of the owner's company(lahat ng kotse nya naka pangalan sa kompanya nya).

known issues were kalampag and white smoke and lost orig cr.

1) 1st day, change oil sa shell - 1.8k
2) On the same day, replaced engine support, front bushings and ball joints - 4.5k
3) A week later, we decided to do a top overhaul to solve the white smoke(mechanic suggested to do a general overhaul since engine is already old and nearing the end of it's life. - 25k - 30k total cost
4) replaced CV boots - can't remember since naisabay sa overhaul yung labor at pinambili.
5) a week after successful overhaul, bumibitaw ang clutch kahit nakadiin - repair kit + labor less than 500 yata
6) Car registration has expired last June, due to budget constraints July ko na na-rehistro - 5.1k including penalty
7) 2mos after the successful overhaul, AC died, culprit is leaking ac lines. - 2.7k
8) last october lumusot ulit ang clutch, shell mechanic advised to replace the primary clutch assy(not sure kung yun nga yun) cost aroung 1.7k kasama brake fluid
9) did another oil change last month - 1k
10) 4yrs old battery died - 2.7k

Total Repair cost more or less 50k

Stress Level 5/10

Nilagay ko na sa mindset ko na kapag segunda mano ang sasakya na kinuha, expect to have repairs. Saka 1st car ko kasi kaya hanggat maaari ayaw ko mag-sisi, Sinisikap ko na lang ipagawa ang mga dapat ipagawa kasi eventually kung maayos na lahat ng dapat ayusin, magiging ok din ang kotse. Iniisip ko na lang, at least wala akong binabayarang 15k+ monthly for 5yrs.

Next project ko for my car:

Tires - need ng palitan yung apat,
Underchassis - kumalampag na naman yung dati nameng pinalitan na bushing(not sure kung busing pa rin ang cause)
CV Joint - tok sound when doing a full-turn on the steering wheel
Power steering leak - di ko pa napapatignan kung sa ps pump o sa rack and pinion nanggagaling ang tagas.
Radiator Flushing/Overhaul - wala namang history ng overheat yung kotse, preventive maintenance lang kasi nga matanda na rin yung sasakyan.

Advice ko lang sa mga makakabili ng 2nd hand specially old models, i-expect nyo na ang pagawa, kasama talaga yan. Kapag bumili ka ng 2nd hand, kasama sa package ang mga issues ng kotse. Sabi nga ng erpat ko, hindi sapat ang may pambili ka lang, dapat may pang maintain ka rin.

Saka isa pang tip, pag may nasira sa kotse nyo, wag nyong problemahin maya't maya, saka mo sya problemahin pag may pera ka ng pampagawa. Nakakatulong yan promise. :D

[unmarked]

^^me tanong lang ako boss. Doesn't it bother you ho ba na malapit nyo na ma exceed sa cost of repairs ung actual value ng kotse as a whole? Nung kinuha nyo ba sya may idea na kayo na ganyan ang kalalagyan nyo since neglected? Mejo stressful and money pit talaga.

[FamiliaGuy]

^^me tanong lang ako boss. Doesn't it bother you ho ba na malapit nyo na ma exceed sa cost of repairs ung actual value ng kotse as a whole? Nung kinuha nyo ba sya may idea na kayo na ganyan ang kalalagyan nyo since neglected? Mejo stressful and money pit talaga.

No, it doesn't. Bago pa ako bumili, I already expected this kind of repairs kasi nga nasa second hand market ako, at yung budget ko ay hindi kataasan.

Most of the problems naman na na-encounter ko sa kotse na nabili ko ay due from wear and tear. Ang tanging hindi ko lang inexpect ay ang general overhaul. medyo makati sa bulsa yun.

Sabi ko nga sa unang post ko, dahil first car ko, ayaw kong makaramdam ng kahit konting pagsisisi. Sisikapin ko na lang ipaayos lahat ng kailangang ayusin para eventually, maging ok na lahat.

Sa ngayon naman wala akong major issue sa kotse bukod sa gulong at underchassis. Sa papers naman, isasabay ko na sa rehistro next year yung padukot ng orig CR sabay transfer na rin sa name ko.

[timming_gear]

2007 Fortuner 2.7
Bought 2013 w/40k mileage
Unit Cost : 500k.

Stress :
1.Tumaob pala yung sasakyan nabili ko kaya pala hindi pantay yung roof niya at puro Gasgas yung Roof Rail, lately ko na lang nalaman nung na stock ako sa ulanan tumutulo sa loob yung Tubig

2. Replace Wheel Bearing sa likod

3. Naka schedule siya next Year For change Color at i fix na yung Roof niya

Upgrade
- install Led bar and Roof Rack
- change to retrofit and Angel Eyes Headlight
- upgrade Smoked Led Tail lights
- upgrade mags to 2015 oem Fortuner Rims
- upgraded Head unit with Gps
- install car show type sounds set up, 10 pieces of Cadence Neo Raw Driver.

Story : worth it din yung mga Second hand Cars kapag na i restore o Upgrade mo ito lalo na kapag makikita mo yung Pag babago niya kaysa sa nakuha mo ito. Nakaka Gaan sa Loob., hindi ko binibilang kung magkano yung nagagastos ko kasi wala. Naman ako balak ibenta pa, Yung sakin kahit taob na unit hindi naman ako binigyan sakit ng ulo sa makina 4 times a week nga ito lumuluwas wala naman nagiging Problema hindi nag babago yung Temperature niya. Malakas lang talaga Sa konsumo at Gasolina nga expected na yon