Kwentuhan: Storya/Problema mo sa 2nd hand car mo

[jut703]

2004 Mazda 3
Got it at 95,000 km.

Problems:
1. Busted AT - replaced by seller (part of our agreement), I just contributed ATF. I'll be sending it back for a backjob because the shifter is stiff when shifting from M to D but otherwise it works well now.

2. Repaired/replaced suspension bits (shocks, mounts, tie rod) - not yet necessary but I'll have to replace it sooner or later anyway.

3. Changed oil and fuel filter, spark plugs

4. Upgraded to HID retrofit because stock headlights had weak output

5. Repaired bumper clips (broken again; lesson learned - never trust Banawe freelancers)

6. Aircon cleaning (didn't solve the minor whining problem which is probably a sign of an old blower)

Is it a stressful experience? A bit. We've spent quite a lot in fixing the car, and you really have to allot some time to it (I've spent most of my weekends for the past month).

But it's worth it. For a little over 300k including repairs, I have a fully functional TOTL sedan that actually has more toys than my brand new Altis (rain-sensing wipers, automatic HID headlamps, moon roof). Runs very well too, no problem hitting 180 on the highway. Haven't pushed it to its top speed but I'm expecting 190-195 perhaps.

You learn a lot about cars too. I admit it's not for everyone - those who know nothing about cars and have no interest will probably just pay exorbitant amounts for a brand new car because they don't wanna be bothered with repairs.

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[dishcom]

Pano naman kung talagang gusto lang mag upgrade ng auto? May mga kakilala ako na pag pumatak ng 5 years ang auto talagang ibebenta na yun.

Sa mga mayaman na maraming auto. Normal lang yan. Low mile at casa maintain..
Pero sa mg isa lang auto then binta for upgrade, duda ka na.

[jut703]

That's the reason why I always buy brand new.

Even after all repairs, it's still cheaper to go secondhand. You just have to invest time and effort, but in exchange you save hundreds of thousands of pesos.

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[Renan Reora]

Wow! Salamat sa mga kwento nyo. Di pala ako nag iisa . hehe
Share nyo naman experience nyo!

[Renan Reora]

Wow! Salamat sa mga kwento nyo. Di pala ako nag iisa . hehe
Share nyo naman experience nyo!

[unmarked]

Nakakalumpo naman mga experience nyo! Haha i would consider myself lucky pala.

07 Altis 1.6G AT - 100k (acquired 2013)
Bargain deal.

Ondoy victim, pero owned by my father. New ecu, all liquids pinalitan, still drives like a dream. He wanted a ford ranger and was going to trade it in for 250k (2013). That time for the same model kaya pa pumalo ng 350 to 400k so biniro ko si erpats kunin ko 100k kesa naman malugi ka at least our family gets to keep the car. Pumayag!
All in all compared sa inyo hindi to sakit ng ulo:

2nd day of driving (gf driving) bumanga sa pader - 3k fender bender + sabog ung gulong 800 petot na 2nd hand

Spiral cable for busina 4k ko nabili sa banawe kasi ung nabili ko sa kasa na 1k hindi compatible dahil pang ibang year nabigay saken. Found out pwede lang pala ako bumili ng clip adaptor barya lang sana ginastos ko.

Evaporator bumigay, 10k

After 2 months

Compressor bumigay, 10k

Driver side power window, 1k pero band aid fix laging nasisira. Had to rewire the driver side window to the passenger side power window button 250 lang sa technician.

All in all having a car made me more responsible financially. For some reason ms may financial freedom ako ngayon than when I was commuting. It goes down to planning i guess. Always have an emergency fund. Hope i was able to contribute.

[jodski]

Hahaha hindi naman masyado nakakalumpo. I consider it exercise na lang pag kinakalas yung car. Grown ups Lego hehehe

[unmarked]

I have a friend who has spent money that far exceeds ung value ng auto nya (lancer singkit). I dunno if i can put up with that, parang money pit. Ika nga, charge to experience na lang.

[Juan Martinez]

i bought a 2001 pajero fieldmaster in the later part of 2014. i got it at 470k (it's the reason i joined tsikot because of the fm thread). since then i already replaced all the suspension parts except the adjustable shocks. i replaced also the starter, compressor, radiator, tires and rims, battery, alternator, stereo (with subwoofer), leather seats. installed fog lamps (and upgraded the headlamps), turbo timer, volt meter, dash cam, backing up sensor. i'll install a tpms soon. retrofitted it with a bumper overrider. i haven't tinkered with injection pump or the engine because it has yet to give me a headache (sooner or later it will). it actually costs me a little fortune, but i don't have regrets. it stresses me out though if i hear noise or vibration that's out of the ordinary.

[FamiliaGuy]

1997 Mazda 323 Gen 2.5
Acquired last May 2015
Acquisition cost 60k
Odo reading * 197k

Neglected car, owner has a lot of cars kaya binenta(di na nagagamit), Orig CR is missing(photocopy lang ang cr), CR is under the name of the owner's company(lahat ng kotse nya naka pangalan sa kompanya nya).

known issues were kalampag and white smoke and lost orig cr.

1) 1st day, change oil sa shell - 1.8k
2) On the same day, replaced engine support, front bushings and ball joints - 4.5k
3) A week later, we decided to do a top overhaul to solve the white smoke(mechanic suggested to do a general overhaul since engine is already old and nearing the end of it's life. - 25k - 30k total cost
4) replaced CV boots - can't remember since naisabay sa overhaul yung labor at pinambili.
5) a week after successful overhaul, bumibitaw ang clutch kahit nakadiin - repair kit + labor less than 500 yata
6) Car registration has expired last June, due to budget constraints July ko na na-rehistro - 5.1k including penalty
7) 2mos after the successful overhaul, AC died, culprit is leaking ac lines. - 2.7k
8) last october lumusot ulit ang clutch, shell mechanic advised to replace the primary clutch assy(not sure kung yun nga yun) cost aroung 1.7k kasama brake fluid
9) did another oil change last month - 1k
10) 4yrs old battery died - 2.7k

Total Repair cost more or less 50k

Stress Level 5/10

Nilagay ko na sa mindset ko na kapag segunda mano ang sasakya na kinuha, expect to have repairs. Saka 1st car ko kasi kaya hanggat maaari ayaw ko mag-sisi, Sinisikap ko na lang ipagawa ang mga dapat ipagawa kasi eventually kung maayos na lahat ng dapat ayusin, magiging ok din ang kotse. Iniisip ko na lang, at least wala akong binabayarang 15k+ monthly for 5yrs.

Next project ko for my car:

Tires - need ng palitan yung apat,
Underchassis - kumalampag na naman yung dati nameng pinalitan na bushing(not sure kung busing pa rin ang cause)
CV Joint - tok sound when doing a full-turn on the steering wheel
Power steering leak - di ko pa napapatignan kung sa ps pump o sa rack and pinion nanggagaling ang tagas.
Radiator Flushing/Overhaul - wala namang history ng overheat yung kotse, preventive maintenance lang kasi nga matanda na rin yung sasakyan.

Advice ko lang sa mga makakabili ng 2nd hand specially old models, i-expect nyo na ang pagawa, kasama talaga yan. Kapag bumili ka ng 2nd hand, kasama sa package ang mga issues ng kotse. Sabi nga ng erpat ko, hindi sapat ang may pambili ka lang, dapat may pang maintain ka rin.

Saka isa pang tip, pag may nasira sa kotse nyo, wag nyong problemahin maya't maya, saka mo sya problemahin pag may pera ka ng pampagawa. Nakakatulong yan promise. :D

[unmarked]

^^me tanong lang ako boss. Doesn't it bother you ho ba na malapit nyo na ma exceed sa cost of repairs ung actual value ng kotse as a whole? Nung kinuha nyo ba sya may idea na kayo na ganyan ang kalalagyan nyo since neglected? Mejo stressful and money pit talaga.

[gearhead000]

based on experience, yes. mas ok bumili sa dealers.... the worst thing they can do lang is to tamper your odo. pero kung titignan mo, ganun pa din, you will never know the condition of your engine's innards until it explodes in your face. unless during vehicle inspection, bubuksan mo talaga makina.

kung afford pa rin talaga, mas ok pa din kumuha ng brand new..... talo talo na lang sa depreciation.

I was about to ask this - kung okay ba bumili sa 2nd hand dealers or directly sa owners. Feeling ko nga mas okay na siguro sa dealer. Syempre alam na nya presyuhan so for sure natawaran na rin sa owner yan, then konting patong na lang. Then kabisado na rin nila tumingin ng fresh at ng lemon. Tapos kahit papaano siguro me konting warranty rin. Agree ba kayo or hindi?

[xninjax]

2004 Altis (not much problems. I guess these are just wear and tear)
bought 2010
- replaced aircon magnetic clutch after 1 year - 3K
- replaced aircon evaporator after 3 years - 8K
- replaced radiator after 4 years- 6K


2005 Mazda 6
bought 2015
- replaced tie rod/rack end/support (etc na pang-ilalim) after i bought it - 25K
- replaced 4 tires - 20K
- fix aircon hoses - 2K
- replaced radiator after masira ung kabitan ng hose nung nagrepair sa aircon - 6K

[timming_gear]

2007 Fortuner 2.7
Bought 2013 w/40k mileage
Unit Cost : 500k.

Stress :
1.Tumaob pala yung sasakyan nabili ko kaya pala hindi pantay yung roof niya at puro Gasgas yung Roof Rail, lately ko na lang nalaman nung na stock ako sa ulanan tumutulo sa loob yung Tubig

2. Replace Wheel Bearing sa likod

3. Naka schedule siya next Year For change Color at i fix na yung Roof niya

Upgrade
- install Led bar and Roof Rack
- change to retrofit and Angel Eyes Headlight
- upgrade Smoked Led Tail lights
- upgrade mags to 2015 oem Fortuner Rims
- upgraded Head unit with Gps
- install car show type sounds set up, 10 pieces of Cadence Neo Raw Driver.

Story : worth it din yung mga Second hand Cars kapag na i restore o Upgrade mo ito lalo na kapag makikita mo yung Pag babago niya kaysa sa nakuha mo ito. Nakaka Gaan sa Loob., hindi ko binibilang kung magkano yung nagagastos ko kasi wala. Naman ako balak ibenta pa, Yung sakin kahit taob na unit hindi naman ako binigyan sakit ng ulo sa makina 4 times a week nga ito lumuluwas wala naman nagiging Problema hindi nag babago yung Temperature niya. Malakas lang talaga Sa konsumo at Gasolina nga expected na yon

[R0TC1V]

Bought honda city 2009 E series and matic from my boss last May 2014. Metallic finish. Monday coding. Bought it for 454k with 9 mos worth of insurance plus branded child seat. Mataas sya comparatively sa iba and super research nko sa ibang cars pa nyan. Mabilisang deal lng kmi coming from our monthly coffee session. PROS: mukhang bago pa rin, though faint na but it still has the new car smell, with HID na including fog lights, casa maintained, walang Major accident other than naatrasan sya before pero fixed na. CONS: 66k un odo which is minimal. Ala na ata CONS eh. Oh wait, pinaltan na pala nmin un HID. Other than that, wala na kmi ginastos. Maintainance na lng...sa Shell. Hehe.

[dishcom]

I was about to ask this - kung okay ba bumili sa 2nd hand dealers or directly sa owners. Feeling ko nga mas okay na siguro sa dealer. Syempre alam na nya presyuhan so for sure natawaran na rin sa owner yan, then konting patong na lang. Then kabisado na rin nila tumingin ng fresh at ng lemon. Tapos kahit papaano siguro me konting warranty rin. Agree ba kayo or hindi?

Malaki yung factor na ok ang auto kung galing sa dealer. Sabihin na natin na hindi naman sila bibili ng auto na hindi nila mabibinta... syempre may mga buyer na ma alam din sa auto or nag dadala ng marunong talaga sa auto. So panu nila mabibinta doon kung palpak ang nabili nila.

[unmarked]

^^ i find that they tend to lie more than the usual 2nd hand owner. Yes maaaring may alam talaga sila. Kaso lang based on experience pinagtatakpan talaga nila mga incidents ng kotse.

We dealt with them couple of times mabuti nalang may kakilala din kami na dealer rin. He tipped us off na ung exalta napalitan na ang windshield bec of an accident. That incident was not documented at all even though casa maintained 'daw'.

In general i think 2nd hand autos are worth it. Kahit pa nabaha yan, if for the right price naman e. Ang masama binili mo market value pero damaged goods.

[FamiliaGuy]

^^me tanong lang ako boss. Doesn't it bother you ho ba na malapit nyo na ma exceed sa cost of repairs ung actual value ng kotse as a whole? Nung kinuha nyo ba sya may idea na kayo na ganyan ang kalalagyan nyo since neglected? Mejo stressful and money pit talaga.

No, it doesn't. Bago pa ako bumili, I already expected this kind of repairs kasi nga nasa second hand market ako, at yung budget ko ay hindi kataasan.

Most of the problems naman na na-encounter ko sa kotse na nabili ko ay due from wear and tear. Ang tanging hindi ko lang inexpect ay ang general overhaul. medyo makati sa bulsa yun.

Sabi ko nga sa unang post ko, dahil first car ko, ayaw kong makaramdam ng kahit konting pagsisisi. Sisikapin ko na lang ipaayos lahat ng kailangang ayusin para eventually, maging ok na lahat.

Sa ngayon naman wala akong major issue sa kotse bukod sa gulong at underchassis. Sa papers naman, isasabay ko na sa rehistro next year yung padukot ng orig CR sabay transfer na rin sa name ko.

[kurochan_24]

Malaki yung factor na ok ang auto kung galing sa dealer. Sabihin na natin na hindi naman sila bibili ng auto na hindi nila mabibinta... syempre may mga buyer na ma alam din sa auto or nag dadala ng marunong talaga sa auto. So panu nila mabibinta doon kung palpak ang nabili nila.

Sir, question na rin. Kahit po ba sa dealers dapat me kasama pa rin akong mechanic, or mas mapagkakatiwalaan sila na at di din nila gusto mapahiya sa buyers kaya mas sure na okay ang kotse maski sabihing second hand? At saka sila napo ba bahala sa mga rehistro etc?

Natetempt na po ako bumili sa me pangalang dealer.

[pdx]

Model: 1997 Toyota Corrola Big Body (Ex-taxi)
Unit Cost: 60k
Issues: Ex-taxi so madami syang issues...hehe
Total Repair costs: all in all, inabot sya sa mga more or less 120K

Nagstart pa lang kami mag-asawa with our new born child. Since may baby na kami hndi na kami pwede magtravel ng nakamotor lang. So I started scouting for an owner type jeep sa buy and sell. At that time hindi pa ako sanay magdrive and wala akong alam about cars/automotive. Well, kahit naman hanggang ngayun eh.

May classmate si wife na nagalok magbenta ng kotse, ex-taxi na dropped to private. So instead na owner ang bilhin bakit hindi na lang daw yun, sarado na, may aircon pa. Binili namin for 60k tapos papintura, baba makina, etc. Inabot din in total sa 120k yata. tapos every now and then may ipapaayos, or papapalitan.

Ok naman sya. Nagagamit ko paluwas ng Manila from Bulacan. Pero hindi ako confident na dalhin sa mas malayo kasi nga baka may bumigay, expected naman yun dahil luma na yung car. Mga 4 times na din ako tinirik. First was leaked clutch hose, ayaw na magshift yun pala tumagas na yung fluid. 2nd was a few blocks away from the house nasunog yung fuse. 3rd was ayaw na magstart, mahina na pala yung battery. 4th was biglang humihinto, yun pala nagbabara na yung daluyan ng fuel.

Level of stress siguro 5/10, kasi expected na namin na may mga problems na meencounter. And for an ex-taxi Ok naman sya. Well maintained din kasi ng tatay ni misis, jeepney driver sya. Wala akong alam sa cars eh.

Then we decided to get a new one, kasi tingin ko yung nagagastos namin sa maintenance is mahigit pa sa magiging interest kung kukuha kami ng bagong sasakyan na hulugan. So why not get a brand new one diba? I was thinking of keeping the car din, kasi first car ko yun, tsaka hindi ko ugali magbenta ng gamit kahit hindi ko na ginagamit, senti lang siguro ako. Pero my wife convinced me to sell it dun sa pinsan nya na bagong panganak din. I was initially selling it for 80k sa iba pero nakuha nya sa 60k, hulugan pa.

So hayun, iba na ang may-ari sa kanya. Pero pansin ko lang, since na-acquire ng pinsan ni misis yung car namin, dumami eventually yung problems nya (madalas kasi dumaan sa bahay yun, kainuman ko pa yung mister). Iba din pala pag may alam sa maintenance (alaga kasi nung biyenan ko), kahit luma na yung kotse matino pa rin.

Ngayun, wait ko naman ipost dito ni pinsan yung kotse na nabili nya sakin.