Japanese Fearsome Threesome

[bob_infotech06]

those guys who are familiar with japanese surplus cars, I would like to hear a review and comparison of these three cars, actually, my dad just bought an Isuzu Trooper, and he asked me what i want, i said i'll go for a 2D sports car.

the cars are the following:

90-94 Toyota Supra
2-door 4-passenger 3000cc v6 24 valve

90-94 Mitsubishi 3000GT
2-door 4-passenger 3000c v6 24-valve

90-94 Nissan Fairlady Z (300ZX)
2-door 4-passenger 3000c v6 24-valve

normally, which among them standsout the most? please help. i havent found any review sites that compares these 3 cars in particular.

alam nyo ba na directly importing these cars from japan is really cheap? including freight cost, price will range between 2000-3000 USD (thats Php112k-170k). problema nalang is yong customs at convertion.

thanks in advance.

[hagiber]

Personally, I'd go for the Supra :-) Pero tama ka din na problema na lang is customs duties...hehehe...malaking problema yan... :-)

[van_wilder]

yup... we do that! but the prob is mapa-pass na ata yun bill na additional 500thou tax sa mga 2nd hand cars coming from other countries...

anyway, kahit anong sabihin mo supra ako... diba almost the same body lang yan nun 98-02?

marami na naka 3000gt at fairlady dito eh... supra sobrang konti... yari lang sa gas... 3L yan na 6-cylinder...

[mazdamazda]

supra!!! lots of potential...

[niky]

I'm a Nissan boy... 300zx sa akin!

Both the ZX and the Supra can be modified A LOT... and there are some pretty good examples of track cars and drag cars on both sides...

more attention is usually paid to the Supra, because it is Toyota's ONLY super tourer... the 300ZX has to share the Nissan limelight with the Skyline, so most people are unaware of the tunability of this beast.

All three cars are turbo as is, and can be modified to make lots of power.

Consider though, that the market for 3000GT parts and upgrades is quite thin as compared to the 300ZX and the Supra, but it will be $$$ to get parts for any of them anyway.

[kyle618]

i would get the Supra... the latest sana... grabe imagine the hp u could extract from that car... omg!

[iqaruzz]

supra rz ba sir bob?

kapag rz no question ask.. kunin nyo na

[bob_infotech06]

sa mga na search ko na imported cars on the internet (which i am planning to engage in soon), supra (among them) is the most expensive. a supra sz costs about 6-7k USD. mukha atang mga supra boys kayo. ok ill take your word for it. meron lang kasi akong nakitang bargain (slightly damaged but drivable) na mitsubishi 3000GT that costs only 2500 USD kasama na shipping. tapos meron pa akong kamaganak na examiner III sa customs, matutulongan nya raw kami. pero hmmm, supra nga siguro ang the best (sabi nyo eh). meron ba dito nakadrive ng mga car na namention ko? do you think, if unmodified, may laban ba ito sa mga SiR? if yes, what was your top speed? thanks a lot people for your help.

[Rediesel]

Originally posted by bob_infotech06
do you think, if unmodified, may laban ba ito sa mga SiR? if yes, what was your top speed? thanks a lot people for your help.

You serious ? :confused:

[niky]

Originally posted by Rediesel
You serious ? :confused:

I suppose he is...

Toyota Supra RZ (twin turbo)
0-60 in 4.9s
1/4 mile 13.6s

Toyota Supra SZ (naturally aspirated)
0-60 in 7s (estimate)
1/4 mile in 15s (estimate)

Honda Civic SiR
0-60 in 7.6s
1/4 mile 15.6


The SZ is not the same as the RZ Supra. And you can't just turbo it, there are a few things different from the RZ engine, so you might want to look at an RZ, which is still around $17,000+++ last I looked, meaning it would cost around 2million+++ to bring in.

And with an SZ, it won't be hard for a modified Civic to walk all over you.

Good cars that you can realistically bring in / buy and race in the 1/4 mile are the Mitsubishi Evos and the Nissan 200SX. The Evos are already 13second cars STOCK, while the 2.0 of the SX can be modified almost as easily. Evos go for between 750k to 1.5mil secondhand, while 200SXs are between 500-800k secondhand (and lefthand drive).

[hagiber]

Yung Opel nga may laban sa SiR... Supra pa :-)

[empy]

3 important things to remember:

1. van wilder is right - the supra changed body styles in 94. the 94-98 supra turbo is an absolute monster...capable of handling extremely high boost and 500+ hp with only basic mods. the older body style is nowhere near as good.

2. there are n/a and turbo versions of all three cars. please don't waste your time on the lame non-turbo versions.

3. an unmodified turbo version of any of these cars will destroy an SiR without even leaving third gear. you can even give that SiR a 500-ft head start.


all three turbo versions are highly tunable, with the easiest/best being the supra. however, the 3000GT is all-wheel drive (that might appeal to you). also, i believe the 300zx is a pure 2-seater while the supra and 3000GT have (very small) back seats.

[ghosthunter]

for me, I'd take the Toyota Supra turbo. If you have the budget, Sport Compact Car magazine has a very good example of what you can do with one.

[niky]

I think he needs to research some more... there are a zillion trim levels on the Supra and 300ZX, and even if he thinks they're relatively cheap, those prices are for the bottom-rung models... even with the lower taxes now, it'll still cost almost three times the price of each car to bring it in.

[bob_infotech06]

sabagay tama ka dyan. but i still believe i can make arrangements with my "tito" sa customs. im serious talaga, im planning to get one this january. among the cars ive researched (used cars lang kasi wala ako budget for newer ones). here are my findings sa mga prices nila (including shipping cost, excluding customs, local taxes, and conversion).

mitsubishi 3000gt - 2500 and up (USD)
nissan fairlady z 300zx - 2600 and up (USD)
toyota supra sz - 6000 and up (USD)

lahat sila close to 3.0L im not sure if these has turbo. pasensya na kayo, baguhan ako sa usapang "drag race", pero nakahiligan ko na sa kakapanood with barkada, now its time for me to join in using an cheap imported car. salamat again.

teka, after conversion ba, maapektohan ang performance ng vehicle?

[van_wilder]

skyline r34 ayaw mo? pero yun year 1999-2002 aabot ng 2.5M-3.5M eh dapat kasi kukuha ako, kaso na-realize ko wag na... mahal masyado, baka magalit nanay ko... euro car na lang kunin ko...

[JAYarc]

yung 3 sports car, as long as NA 3.0L approx 220Hp +/- ... problem dyan conversion na OEM parts since JDM market mga yan...source ka muna surplus OEM parts..>>hehe

[pissword]

since mag iimport ka naman..eh maghanap ka na din ng conversion kit na brandnew para sa mga yan..preferably from US? huwaaa mahal!!

yung supra kakalabasan nyan ba yung parang kay paul walker sa fast and furious 1 right? except may hood nga lang siya

[notEworthy27]

hood can be dealt with. hehe punta ka lang sa A-toy. supra pa rin that is if you really want to stand out. All 3 are ok. So better source for parts, that's where the going gets tough.

[bob_infotech06]

thanks for all the info. you really helped me a lot. teka, you know so much of the supra, how about the fairlady z and the 3000gt? anybody who knows how good are they, or anybody who have test drived them? can an unmodified fairladyz and the 3000gt beat a modified SiR?

furthermore, i have found a cheap toyota supra 1990 model, very good condition and clean engine. kaya lang 2.0L lang sya pero twin turbo, how good is this? thanks in advance.