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    #11
    the ECCS had i think 110 or was 125 advertised HP but they're like 90hp.
    the Philippine SiR is one of the classic example. I'd say 120-130 hp is all they got....

    Yeah, the 2.0 V6 galant (cant remember the year) had an advertised hp of 160 (cant remember) but i highly doubt it...i'd say 135-150hp...

    These freakin manufacturers should be sued for false advertising but hey, they have more money to hire good lawyers than anyone else.

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    #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Supierreman
    meron pako nung local brochure dito nung rayban galant it says 150hp *6750 rpm (110kw)
    tapos yung Galant supersaloon nasa 137hp *6000 rpm (101kw)
    meron din ako brochure nung galant vr:
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    #13
    Also take note that convertion from pferdestarke (ps) to various (unspecified) forms of horsepower (hp) could be blamed.

    1 pferdestarke = 0.9863201 horsepower [international]
    1 pferdestarke = 0.9859233 horsepower [electric]
    1 pferdestarke = 1 horsepower [metric]
    1 pferdestarke = 0.9858664 horsepower [water]

    Another way of stating output could be from from pferdestarke (ps) to kilowatt (kW).

    1 pferdestarke = 0.7354987 kilowatt

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    #14
    boybi,
    hahaha daya din yun ah! i just checked the brochure again and nakalagay nga dun 165hp pero dun sa last page ng brochure dun sa page ng specs and equipment nakalagay 150 hp... labo no? :D

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    #15
    mga tsong, compare nyo muna kasi ang COMPRESSION RATIO. although 2 same car models may have the same displacements, the one with the higher compression ratio will produce a higher power output. so yung honda civic na 1.6 it will have a lower rating in other countries (especially in the US where the emmission controls are very strict) than for a car designed for the philippines. mas mataas ang compression ratio ng mga engines sa pinas. so do not be surprised if you see a 2.0 liter car in the US rated not much more than a 1.6 liter car in the philippines. one has more displacement but is down rated by lowering the compression ratio and thus produce less Hp per unit displacement, the other has a higher compression ratio so even if the displacement is less the hp/cc displacement is higher.

    it's a simple matter of choosing between horsepower and emmission control. higher compression ratios produce higher NOx pollutants that cause smog but also results to higher hp/cc displacement.
    Last edited by yebo; April 3rd, 2005 at 01:53 PM.

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    #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Supierreman
    boybi,
    hahaha daya din yun ah! i just checked the brochure again and nakalagay nga dun 165hp pero dun sa last page ng brochure dun sa page ng specs and equipment nakalagay 150 hp... labo no? :D
    dun sa brochure ko, dun sa specs, ganito ang nakalagay:
    Maximum power output: 110kW(EEC)/165hp

    baka yung brochure mo yung mas bago na, yung meron ng A/T variant ng VR.
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    #17
    Quote Originally Posted by airshaq20
    the Philippine SiR is one of the classic example. I'd say 120-130 hp is all they got....
    di ba yung 120 eh wheel horsepower ito at hindi sa crank?

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    #18
    yebo,
    the thing is compared to other countries sa south east asia yung dito lang sa pinas ang kakaiba.. napaka special yata ng pinas for the car manufacturers to give us engines with a higher Hp ating :D


    Boybi,
    yep ito yung brochure na may A/T variant na VR. mukhang inedit na yung nasa specs pero yung sa page na may pic nung engine nakalagay pa rin 165


    As for the SiR tama si chieffy 120 wheel horsepower yun but still a big discrepancy from the 140whp when B16a is dynoed in other markets. Pero mabilis pa rin SiR dito compared to other cars in it's class :D
    Last edited by Supierreman; April 3rd, 2005 at 05:17 PM.

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    #19
    Anyone have a flyer of the '99 Honda Civic SiR? Pascan naman. :D

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    #20
    the most emmision controls can erstrict is 2-4% hp or so, in addition, miniscule 2.0 and below wont gain or lose as much as 10-20hp dahil lang sa emmisions.

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