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    #21
    sir... ganito po ang itsura ng HH...


    ganito naman po ang itsura ng ST... ang BT, color black.


    sir... ang 4AGZE parang hawig din ng HH itsura nun plus the top mount IC. pero malakas po sa gas yan at sobra hirap na makakita ng ganyang engine. actually medyo mahirap na rin maghanap ng HH ngayon.

    as for the 4WD capability, errr... di ko po masasagot yan. pero for one, yung tranny na gamit ko ngayon, tranny ng 2C-T, di nga lang 4WD. baka po masagot ni ogip yung question nyo. he already had 4AGE conversion sa liteace eh. baka makatulong po sya.

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    #22
    guys meron kyang 4AGE silvertop with ITB's dito sa pinas? kasi ito tlaga ang pinka gusto kong derivative ng 4AGE eh.. it gives out the best engine sounds much better than any honda engine and ito rin ung 4AGE engine na nasa loob ng AE86 in keichi tsuchiya the drift king!! mag kano poh kya un and mag kano rin kya ang 2nd hand na AE86 ngaun?? Ksi kung abot naman ng budget baka ito na ang project car ko for next year..

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    #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Orido View Post
    guys meron kyang 4AGE silvertop with ITB's dito sa pinas? kasi ito tlaga ang pinka gusto kong derivative ng 4AGE eh.. it gives out the best engine sounds much better than any honda engine and ito rin ung 4AGE engine na nasa loob ng AE86 in keichi tsuchiya the drift king!! mag kano poh kya un and mag kano rin kya ang 2nd hand na AE86 ngaun?? Ksi kung abot naman ng budget baka ito na ang project car ko for next year..
    Meron mga taga-GrupoToyota na silver top - converted from AFM to MAP with open ITBs (using black top ECU na syempre)... marami ding naka black top with open ITBs....

  4. #24
    just a benchmark idea, magkano na ang laro ng presyo ng 4agze dito sa atin....

    is it between 16v-HH and 20v-ST or between 20v-ST and BT?

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    #25
    sir EssB how much does the 4AGE BT with ITB's gonna cost me this days?? coz for what I heard a second hand AE86 will set me back 250K.. is this reasonable? parang EG narin ang price eh.. any inputs is welcome.. tnx mga sirs!

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    #26
    Not very reasonable. Restored na yun, most likely.

    I'd rather get an un-restored one and work on it myself. You'd have a lot of change left over.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #27
    *Orido
    Pwede mong tanggalin yung plenum bar ng stock BT (since MAP type naman) para open na sya. Local machine shops can make the torotots for you (velocity stacks) basta magaling ang magwe-weld (using TIG)... maganda may magayahan na branded para ok ang resonance...

    *alwayz_yummy
    3rd gen 4agze (MAP) costs same as a 4age 20v BT with 6-speed tranny (65k). HH and TVIS are on the same price range as ST (25k-30k)... The 5-speed BT is about 45k....
    BTW, with the prices i indicated kasama na FWD tranny.

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    #28
    Sir Essb I'll put that in my options list kapag talagang decided na ako sa project car ko.. how much will it cost me pala if I'd buy branded ITB's?.. and how much will it be to buy a second hand AE86??

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    #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Orido View Post
    Sir Essb I'll put that in my options list kapag talagang decided na ako sa project car ko.. how much will it cost me pala if I'd buy branded ITB's?.. and how much will it be to buy a second hand AE86??
    Sorry, I actually don't know any local store na nagbebenta ng velocity stacks (torotots) - so I don't have any idea sa price.

    Second hand AE86, medyo madugo yan.... since less than 80 na lang ang registered AE86/AE85 (combined coupe and hatch) dito sa 'Pinas according sa isang narinig ko noon. Most of them, kinarne na para may ma-restore na iba... Goodluck na lang po...

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    #30
    Ah kaya pala nasa 250K range na ang AE86 nguan.. i saw one in the classifieds with 4AGE na and naka drift set up nrin siya.. If ever na Ill psuh trough with this eh... I have to wait for a car to be available pa... I think I really have to think this more throughly...

  11. #31
    hayy, initial D fever ka tol orido!

    kung namamahalan ka sa ae86-trueno, buy the cheapest local alternative-> 1982 toyota lift back, then gastusan mo ng 4age20v-BT, trd na pang ilalim at levin seats and interiors, sigurado may sukli ang 250K mo at mas mamahalin mo pa car mo...

    sa 250T mo, maseset-up mo yung car ng ayon sa gusto mo, di sa inayon ng original owner...



    *essB >

    so mga 50-60T pala ang 4agze 3rd gen...hmmm.. inaaalala tatalga ako sa supercharger,e...baka magbreak-down,e..mahal pa naman,e...convert to turbo na pag nasira siguro...

    another experimental alternative siguro is ung 7A-GE hybrid(4age 16 or 20v head and internals + 7a-fe block), wala pa atang gumagawa ng 7A-GZE hybrid(4agze head and internals + 7a-fe block), magrereseach muna ako dito sa part na to,e..mas expensive pa ata to gawin,e...

    more after talaga ako sa low-mid end power and torque than mid-high end torque and power...
    Last edited by alwayz_yummy; March 17th, 2007 at 10:10 AM.

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    #32
    4A-GZE block is the sturdiest of the series. The added strength is to handle the supercharger, but I believe it takes toll on weight even further, since the 4A blocks are cast-iron already.

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