Gas station business. Most affordable..

[dishcom]

Mga boss.. magkanu pinaka murang cost para mag pa tayo ng gas station? Sample sa amin ang lupa.

[1D4LV]

depende sa location. most gas stations cannot support delivery of supplies if far flung places.
only petron can do that.

[dishcom]

Mga magkanu sir sa petron? Ang puhunan na need sa pinaka maliit na posible. Tangalin na natin ang cost sa lupa.. target po sana naman yung pinaka murang gas na pwding e binta. Kasi may shell narin sa amin na malapit..

[1D4LV]

i dont have any idea on the price.

you may refer to these:

Petron
Petron

[cadayjerry]

Mga magkanu sir sa petron? Ang puhunan na need sa pinaka maliit na posible. Tangalin na natin ang cost sa lupa.. target po sana naman yung pinaka murang gas na pwding e binta. Kasi may shell narin sa amin na malapit..

pag petron bulilit. you will invest around 2.5 million to 5 million depende sa luwang and design na gusto mo. all in na dyan including the cash bond, permits, driveway/canopy construction and initial stock. the company will provide the fuel pumps, underground tanks and signages including the cost of installation.

pag generic naman with the same size and design as the petron bulilit, mas malaki investment mo which will be around 4 million to 6 million. lahat kasi ng capital investment galing sayo. and with that amount, your UGTs and pumps are brand new. avoid second hand pumps. sakit lang sa ulo.

sa income side naman, your income pag generic ka is around 8 times your income pag nag franchise ka. ganon kalaki ang agwat. pag nag franchise ka, 1.00 to 1.20 pesos lang income mo per liter sa diesel and around 1.20 to 1.50 pesos naman sa gasolina. pag generic ka, around 3 to 6 pesos per liter income mo for diesel and around 8 to 14 pesos naman income mo per liter sa gasolina. your income per liter depend on the prevailing pump price sa area mo.

if you go generic, you must make your gasoline station is presentable, more beautiful than those branded bulilit station, maluwang, with clean CR, air and water provision, trained gasoline attendant and lower pump price. fore sure, you will be competitive with those branded gasoline station specially in the provinces where lower pump price matters. dont worry about the supply. ang dami supplier na pwede mag deliver sayo. also, make sure na mga bago yong delivery tankers yong supplier mo. also you need to know the source of your supplier.

[cadayjerry]

Mga magkanu sir sa petron? Ang puhunan na need sa pinaka maliit na posible. Tangalin na natin ang cost sa lupa.. target po sana naman yung pinaka murang gas na pwding e binta. Kasi may shell narin sa amin na malapit..

pinaka maliit na possible sa petron? i'll share a tentative computation if you are talking about a petron bulilit station:

1. Basic clearances, permits and licenses (Building and occupancy Permit, DENR ECC, DOE Compliance Certificate, BIR Registration, Barangay and Mayors permit, SSS and Philhealth Registration)= 100,000 to 300,000 depende sa area mo kung mahirap maglakad mga papeles.
2. Land Development = depende sa site mo kong marami kailangan i develop like backfill, riprap, drainage system and excavations
3. building the canopy = 9 x 12 meters - malaki na yan for a two pump 4 hoses or 6 hoses each pump with one center island. 800,000 to 1.2 million = cladding and signages will be provided by petron including the cost of installation.
4. drive way improvement and pavement for a 400 square meter. 600,000.
5. cashiers booth, CR, air and water system = 200,000 to 300,000.
6. initial stock = 1.5 million
7. cash bond 200K

Total estimate: 4.1 million = mataas na yan. actually yong ibang petron bulilit na maliliit talaga cost around 3 to 3.5 million lang. yong initial stock mo pwede na 1 million.

malaki din kasi counterpart petron like the underground tanks, fuel dispensers and signages. sila na rin mag install dyan including the pipe lay out. training ng mga attendants sila na rin.

yon nga lang maliit talaga kita pag nag franchise ka.

[dct]

Kailangan mo ifactor ang cost ng rental kahit sayo ang lupa. Dahil baka mas ok na ipa-rent mo na lang sa iba

[dishcom]

^ kung titingan namin.. 5 to 10years pa bago dadami ang client. Gusto lang namin mauna..

[jut703]

What location? If you're interested, I can hook you up with whatever brand you like. You can also go generic, I can also find you suppliers.

Just be ready with about 10M for a small station. This will include the cost of pumps, underground tanks, civil works, and your initial working capital.


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[erdiedizon]

What location? If you're interested, I can hook you up with whatever brand you like. You can also go generic, I can also find you suppliers.

Just be ready with about 10M for a small station. This will include the cost of pumps, underground tanks, civil works, and your initial working capital.


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Makikisingit lang po sir yung 10m na yun kasama naba ung tanker truck? Iniisip din kasi namin ni mrs ang ganyan pag ayaw na namin sa ibang bansa. Ilang pump na po yun at kasama naba doon ang training ng mga employee? Kung sa medyu malayung luagar ok lang siguru na generic nalang ang brand?

[jut703]

Makikisingit lang po sir yung 10m na yun kasama naba ung tanker truck? Iniisip din kasi namin ni mrs ang ganyan pag ayaw na namin sa ibang bansa. Ilang pump na po yun at kasama naba doon ang training ng mga employee? Kung sa medyu malayung luagar ok lang siguru na generic nalang ang brand?

You don't need to invest in a lorry. The oil company (or distributor, if you're going generic) will take care of your deliveries.

10M will be good for a 2-pump island station. Training is entirely up to you if you go generic. If you go branded, the oil company will require you to attend a dealer training course so you learn the ropes of the business. They will also have a separate training course for your station manager/supervisors on the day-to-day tasks of the station.

In far-flung provincial towns, generics are usually more profitable because they have larger unit margins compared to branded stations. Customers are also less picky about their fuel (they're mostly price-sensitive), so the difference in volume between a branded station and generic is usually just about 30-50% lower (in Manila, a branded station generates about 4x the volume of an equivalent generic).

Of course, with a generic, you're on your own - no marketing, engineering, or training support whatsoever. Build your brand by yourself. Some have been successful - in region 1, Centrum has made a name for itself. In region 3, KKK. In region 5, Bicol Petroleum. But most are just small mom-and-pop generic stations that earn less than what a middle manager earns as an employee.




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[cadayjerry]

can any one share their knowledge on the requirements and specifications ng mga tanker/lorry na gusto kumuha ng supply sa depot.

[mokong22]

can any one share their knowledge on the requirements and specifications ng mga tanker/lorry na gusto kumuha ng supply sa depot.

depende kung san ka kukuha depot iba iba din kasi requirements nila pero mga common requirements are, doe calibrated, specific brand ng fire stinguisher, o.r c.r, cargo at compre insurance, discharve valve leaks, engine leaks, dapat electricals mo maayos pati mga lights, may training din driver, pero depende parin yan kung san ka kukuha.
ang alam ko shel at petron ang pinaka strict pag dating sa mga tanker.

[cadayjerry]

Just be ready with about 10M for a small station. This will include the cost of pumps, underground tanks, civil works, and your initial working capital.

10m is too much for a small gasoline station. specially for a petron bulilit where the company will be shouldering almost 50% of the cost.

[erdiedizon]

Thank you so much for the clear explanation sir. I just remember long time ago the guy who owns a generic petrol station near my place in tarlac, he told me that the rent for the lorry who deliver his supply is so expensive untill he bought his own tanker.

[dishcom]

May kamahalan pala.. 10M..

[jut703]

Thank you so much for the clear explanation sir. I just remember long time ago the guy who owns a generic petrol station near my place in tarlac, he told me that the rent for the lorry who deliver his supply is so expensive untill he bought his own tanker.

Lorry is about 1-2M, depending on the size. That's fr a surplus truck. If you go brand new, 2-3M for a tractor head, another 1M for the trailer.

Then there's the maintenance cost. Plus driver. Never mind the salary, there's always the risk that your driver will engage in shady business and make "paihi" your delivery - you'll be losing hundreds, if not thousands of liters per delivery.

May kamahalan pala.. 10M..

Back in the day, Petron will build you a bulilit station where your investment is just about 3M for the civil works, but they'll provide the pump and tank. Downside is that you'll have small margins, and you have no leverage vs the company because they own everything.

Now, most companies prefer that you cover all the capex. Although some smaller companies (Total, Seaoil) will still cover the capex for the pumps/tanks, or at least let you loan it from them.

But at the end of the day, your total capex will still be significant, and unless you generate good volume, you won't get your ROI within 5 years. Very few new stations get good volume, the market is just very saturated right now.


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[niky]

Lorry is about 1-2M, depending on the size. That's fr a surplus truck. If you go brand new, 2-3M for a tractor head, another 1M for the trailer.

Then there's the maintenance cost. Plus driver. Never mind the salary, there's always the risk that your driver will engage in shady business and make "paihi" your delivery - you'll be losing hundreds, if not thousands of liters per delivery.



Back in the day, Petron will build you a bulilit station where your investment is just about 3M for the civil works, but they'll provide the pump and tank. Downside is that you'll have small margins, and you have no leverage vs the company because they own everything.

Now, most companies prefer that you cover all the capex. Although some smaller companies (Total, Seaoil) will still cover the capex for the pumps/tanks, or at least let you loan it from them.

But at the end of the day, your total capex will still be significant, and unless you generate good volume, you won't get your ROI within 5 years. Very few new stations get good volume, the market is just very saturated right now.


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I recall SeaOil had that 2m offer, as well.

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Small stations are a financial dead end. Unless you have a completely captured market, you'll go bust in just a few years. So many small stations here in the province exchange hands every two or three years. Just not enough volume to stay solvent.

[Gumusut_Amige]

Daming on-going construction ginagawa sa stretch ng TPLEX, yung iba sobrang haba.
Pero sa tingin ko hindi lang pang gas station ito, but wondering how high is the put up capex?

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[d'flash]

Sir Jut, question lang po. may pinagkaiba ba ang binebenta na gasolina ng isang generic gas station vs branded gas station?