Gas station business. Most affordable..

[dishcom]

Mga boss.. magkanu pinaka murang cost para mag pa tayo ng gas station? Sample sa amin ang lupa.

[1D4LV]

depende sa location. most gas stations cannot support delivery of supplies if far flung places.
only petron can do that.

[dishcom]

Mga magkanu sir sa petron? Ang puhunan na need sa pinaka maliit na posible. Tangalin na natin ang cost sa lupa.. target po sana naman yung pinaka murang gas na pwding e binta. Kasi may shell narin sa amin na malapit..

[1D4LV]

i dont have any idea on the price.

you may refer to these:

Petron
Petron

[dct]

Kailangan mo ifactor ang cost ng rental kahit sayo ang lupa. Dahil baka mas ok na ipa-rent mo na lang sa iba

[dishcom]

^ kung titingan namin.. 5 to 10years pa bago dadami ang client. Gusto lang namin mauna..

[jut703]

What location? If you're interested, I can hook you up with whatever brand you like. You can also go generic, I can also find you suppliers.

Just be ready with about 10M for a small station. This will include the cost of pumps, underground tanks, civil works, and your initial working capital.


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[erdiedizon]

What location? If you're interested, I can hook you up with whatever brand you like. You can also go generic, I can also find you suppliers.

Just be ready with about 10M for a small station. This will include the cost of pumps, underground tanks, civil works, and your initial working capital.


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Makikisingit lang po sir yung 10m na yun kasama naba ung tanker truck? Iniisip din kasi namin ni mrs ang ganyan pag ayaw na namin sa ibang bansa. Ilang pump na po yun at kasama naba doon ang training ng mga employee? Kung sa medyu malayung luagar ok lang siguru na generic nalang ang brand?

[jut703]

Makikisingit lang po sir yung 10m na yun kasama naba ung tanker truck? Iniisip din kasi namin ni mrs ang ganyan pag ayaw na namin sa ibang bansa. Ilang pump na po yun at kasama naba doon ang training ng mga employee? Kung sa medyu malayung luagar ok lang siguru na generic nalang ang brand?

You don't need to invest in a lorry. The oil company (or distributor, if you're going generic) will take care of your deliveries.

10M will be good for a 2-pump island station. Training is entirely up to you if you go generic. If you go branded, the oil company will require you to attend a dealer training course so you learn the ropes of the business. They will also have a separate training course for your station manager/supervisors on the day-to-day tasks of the station.

In far-flung provincial towns, generics are usually more profitable because they have larger unit margins compared to branded stations. Customers are also less picky about their fuel (they're mostly price-sensitive), so the difference in volume between a branded station and generic is usually just about 30-50% lower (in Manila, a branded station generates about 4x the volume of an equivalent generic).

Of course, with a generic, you're on your own - no marketing, engineering, or training support whatsoever. Build your brand by yourself. Some have been successful - in region 1, Centrum has made a name for itself. In region 3, KKK. In region 5, Bicol Petroleum. But most are just small mom-and-pop generic stations that earn less than what a middle manager earns as an employee.




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[erdiedizon]

Thank you so much for the clear explanation sir. I just remember long time ago the guy who owns a generic petrol station near my place in tarlac, he told me that the rent for the lorry who deliver his supply is so expensive untill he bought his own tanker.

[dishcom]

May kamahalan pala.. 10M..

[jut703]

Thank you so much for the clear explanation sir. I just remember long time ago the guy who owns a generic petrol station near my place in tarlac, he told me that the rent for the lorry who deliver his supply is so expensive untill he bought his own tanker.

Lorry is about 1-2M, depending on the size. That's fr a surplus truck. If you go brand new, 2-3M for a tractor head, another 1M for the trailer.

Then there's the maintenance cost. Plus driver. Never mind the salary, there's always the risk that your driver will engage in shady business and make "paihi" your delivery - you'll be losing hundreds, if not thousands of liters per delivery.

May kamahalan pala.. 10M..

Back in the day, Petron will build you a bulilit station where your investment is just about 3M for the civil works, but they'll provide the pump and tank. Downside is that you'll have small margins, and you have no leverage vs the company because they own everything.

Now, most companies prefer that you cover all the capex. Although some smaller companies (Total, Seaoil) will still cover the capex for the pumps/tanks, or at least let you loan it from them.

But at the end of the day, your total capex will still be significant, and unless you generate good volume, you won't get your ROI within 5 years. Very few new stations get good volume, the market is just very saturated right now.


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[Gumusut_Amige]

Daming on-going construction ginagawa sa stretch ng TPLEX, yung iba sobrang haba.
Pero sa tingin ko hindi lang pang gas station ito, but wondering how high is the put up capex?

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[d'flash]

Sir Jut, question lang po. may pinagkaiba ba ang binebenta na gasolina ng isang generic gas station vs branded gas station?

[jut703]

Daming on-going construction ginagawa sa stretch ng TPLEX, yung iba sobrang haba.
Pero sa tingin ko hindi lang pang gas station ito, but wondering how high is the put up capex?

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On SCTEX, PTT and Seaoil na magkatapat but opposite directions ang tinatayo. On TPLEX, dalawang Petron na magkatapat but opposite sides.

Sir Jut, question lang po. may pinagkaiba ba ang binebenta na gasolina ng isang generic gas station vs branded gas station?

Yup, walang additives yung sa generic. But it's mostly the same base fuel.

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[remzam]

Daming on-going construction ginagawa sa stretch ng TPLEX, yung iba sobrang haba.
Pero sa tingin ko hindi lang pang gas station ito, but wondering how high is the put up capex?

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Di lang naman gas station yun. Like the gas stations along SLEX and NLEX may mga restaurants and convenience stores.

Last time na nag Baguio ako ang haba na ng TPLEX nakakainip kasi wala ka man lang matigilan or jingle break. Napansin ko rin yung mga construction na yun which is good for travellers.

[niky]

Lorry is about 1-2M, depending on the size. That's fr a surplus truck. If you go brand new, 2-3M for a tractor head, another 1M for the trailer.

Then there's the maintenance cost. Plus driver. Never mind the salary, there's always the risk that your driver will engage in shady business and make "paihi" your delivery - you'll be losing hundreds, if not thousands of liters per delivery.



Back in the day, Petron will build you a bulilit station where your investment is just about 3M for the civil works, but they'll provide the pump and tank. Downside is that you'll have small margins, and you have no leverage vs the company because they own everything.

Now, most companies prefer that you cover all the capex. Although some smaller companies (Total, Seaoil) will still cover the capex for the pumps/tanks, or at least let you loan it from them.

But at the end of the day, your total capex will still be significant, and unless you generate good volume, you won't get your ROI within 5 years. Very few new stations get good volume, the market is just very saturated right now.


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I recall SeaOil had that 2m offer, as well.

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Small stations are a financial dead end. Unless you have a completely captured market, you'll go bust in just a few years. So many small stations here in the province exchange hands every two or three years. Just not enough volume to stay solvent.

[jut703]

General rule of thumb, if you're building a branded station in the province, you should have a secure volume 80-100 thousand liters per month. Otherwise it won't be a very profitable venture.

If you're going independent/generic, you should get at least 40 KL per month. Much lower volume required to stay afloat because generics have much higher unit margins and lower fixed costs.


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[niky]

General rule of thumb, if you're building a branded station in the province, you should have a secure volume 80-100 thousand liters per month. Otherwise it won't be a very profitable venture.

If you're going independent/generic, you should get at least 40 KL per month. Much lower volume required to stay afloat because generics have much higher unit margins and lower fixed costs.


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So approximately 100-200 customers a day. More if they're PUVs, as those guys only put in a little at a time.

Doable, but only on a major thoroughfare in the province.

[dcph172]

General rule of thumb, if you're building a branded station in the province, you should have a secure volume 80-100 thousand liters per month. Otherwise it won't be a very profitable venture.


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In this scenario, how much net income are we talking abt here? 100k /month? 200k?


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