FORD FOCUS. MAZDA 3? KELAN BA LABAS NG BAGONG CIVIC? - Lady hollow

[HOLLOWMAN]

Undecided pa rin kame! Hollowman's trying to buy me a car for my bday..(how sweet, pero hirap mamili)

FOrd focus 2.0 hatchback ver - we test drove it...suave naman and it was really fast (do i need speed?) Maporma sa una pero nung nakita ko sa parking lot ng SM, mukhang KIA SEPHIA na hatchback na turn off ako. Parang di sya head turner

MAZDA 3 - haven't seen one pero sabi sa forum ok daw sya. Magkano ba to?

Bagong CIVIC - could i still wait? bday ko na april 1

Which has the best resale value, mazda o ford? No questions asked sa honda..


What would you prefer? comment on this..or wait nalang? Specify ur HONEST OPINIONS ON EACH CAR...mas appreciate ko..


-Lady hollow 'to

[the_wildthing]

Are you in the Philippines? Parang ang hirap yatang wala pa kayong nakikitang Mazda 3 kahit sa parking lot ng SM.

Wala na akong nakikitang ads ng Ford, at lalong mukhang wala pang nagbebenta ng second hand na 3. Pero tingin ko pareho lang ang resale.

Kung gusto mong kakaiba ka, at least for a few weeks, hintayin mo na lang Honda.

[HOLLOWMAN]

Are you in the Philippines? Parang ang hirap yatang wala pa kayong nakikitang Mazda 3 kahit sa parking lot ng SM.

Wala na akong nakikitang ads ng Ford, at lalong mukhang wala pang nagbebenta ng second hand na 3. Pero tingin ko pareho lang ang resale.

Kung gusto mong kakaiba ka, at least for a few weeks, hintayin mo na lang Honda.

yup am here! Maybe i've seen one di ko lang alam na mazda 3 un. ang ford focus kase nasa 1.025M ....e kung pareho lang quality, sa mura nako...tingin mo?

[margaux]

brand new mazda costs 828k yata.. but the 05 second hand costs 780k - 800k.

civic, i think will come out this june??? I'm not sure....

[Bry]

If you're getting the Mazda 3, go for the 2.0L.

If you're getting the Focus, go for the 2.0L hatch.

The all-new Civic should be out by next month.

[-=Henderson=-]

Just wait for the civic, it's just days away. Test drive it then decide. The new civic looks promising with it's new 1.8 SOHC engine, it saves lots of gas as I read somewhere.

[akuma]

yung mazda3 2.0L mahigit 1M na din... as well as Focus Hatch 2.0L...
pero if you like manual transmision... may Civic 2.0L na manual na lalabas... no price pa nga lang...

I suggest you test drive them all...

[ghosthunter]

Undecided pa rin kame! Hollowman's trying to buy me a car for my bday..(how sweet, pero hirap mamili)

FOrd focus 2.0 hatchback ver - we test drove it...suave naman and it was really fast (do i need speed?) Maporma sa una pero nung nakita ko sa parking lot ng SM, mukhang KIA SEPHIA na hatchback na turn off ako. Parang di sya head turner

MAZDA 3 - haven't seen one pero sabi sa forum ok daw sya. Magkano ba to?

Bagong CIVIC - could i still wait? bday ko na april 1

Which has the best resale value, mazda o ford? No questions asked sa honda..

What would you prefer? comment on this..or wait nalang? Specify ur HONEST OPINIONS ON EACH CAR...mas appreciate ko..

Ford Focus:
I have driven the 1.6L sedan, 1.8L sedan & 2.0L hatch. Of the three versions, I would probably choose the 1.8L sedan as the best deal of the versions of the focus. Of course the 2.0L hatch does have an appeal (that zoom-zoom experience) for some who are willing to spend a bit more. The 1.8L does have most of the qualities of the 2.0L while retaining a bit better fuel milage. The 1.6L felt sluggish which can be a let down for such a good car. The 2.0L hatch should have some sort of traction control or limited slip differential as an option because while I was test driving the car in ideal conditions, I was still able to spin one of the drive wheels. Something to note, the ride quality of this car is on the stiff side which might be good for the people looking for a sporty feeling ride but might not be the choice for those for a more plush riding experience.


Mazda3:
I have test driven the 1.6L sedan and 2.0L sedan. The straight line experience of the 2.0L really outshines the 1.6L but the automatic tranny doesn't let the engine's full potential out. The 2.0L & 1.6L sedans feel pretty much the same except for that extra power under the hood, but be expected for pay for that extra power through slightly higher fuel consumption. The Mazda3's ride is comfortable even on long drives although spirited driving through some tighter curves will reveal the suspension will let the car yaw/tilt a bit more than you would expect. The Mazda3 1.6L hatch is mechanical the same with the sedan but that rear hatch access gives you a more flexible vehicle to carry larger/more items than what you can normally expect to put in your normal sedan. The interior is pretty good until you start looking closer and notice the plastics make up much of the dashboard.

Honda Civic (new model):
I have yet to see one up close and to test drive. Given the rave reviews this car got and the pictures you can find in car magazines and the internet, this might be worth the wait, even if you aren't going to finally decide to buy this car.

[kimpOy]

Happy Bday Lady Hollow...


konting tiis lang eh lalabas na ang Honda Civic 8th Gen...
habang naghihintay ka bili ka ng TOP GEAR march issue centerfold ang Civic dun...

[HOLLOWMAN]

Happy Bday Lady Hollow...


konting tiis lang eh lalabas na ang Honda Civic 8th Gen...
habang naghihintay ka bili ka ng TOP GEAR march issue centerfold ang Civic dun...

Thank you po.

Sa civic at ford--- ano kayang mas fuel efficient? di na kasama mazda 3 sa choices...

[geo]

I would go for the civic.

[miLes]

Thank you po.

Sa civic at ford--- ano kayang mas fuel efficient? di na kasama mazda 3 sa choices...

bakit di na kasama mz3?

im getting between 8-9 (8.66 and 8.11 to be specific the last two fuel consumption) km/L pure city driving -- mz3 2R --
got 10.06 km/L the last time mixed city-hiway driving

goodluck! and advance happy bday and congrats na rin sa new ride mu!

[HOLLOWMAN]

[QUOTE=miLes]bakit di na kasama mz3?

maybe i like the civic and focus better than the mz3....(based sa mga messages)

[Blackraven]

So far, prices haven't changed yet which is good:

1.8 V m/t - 789,000
1.8 V a/t - 825,000
1.8 S m/t - 832,000
1.8 S a/t - 867,000
2.0 S m/t - 962,000
2.0 S-L a/t with paddle shifts - 1.002M
1.3 IMA Hybrid CVT non-tiptronic - TBA

Comparisons:
2.0-litre
Honda Civic 2.0S - 962k (5MT), 1,002k (5AT)
Mazda3 2.0R - 1,009k (4AT)
Ford Focus 2.0 Sport - 1,025k (4AT)

1.8-litre
Honda Civic 1.8V - 789k (5MT), 825k (5AT)
Honda Civic 1.8S - 832k (5MT), 867k (5AT)
Ford Focus 1.8 Ghia - 945k (4AT), 975k (4AT + side skirts)

1.6-litre
Ford Focus 1.6 Trend - 799k (5MT), 849k (4AT)

Engine specs:
Honda Civic 2.0S - 155-hp *6500-rpm; 188-Nm *5500-rpm
Ford Focus 2.0 Sport - 145-hp *6000-rpm; 185-Nm *4000-rpm
Mazda3 2.0R - 141-hp *6500-rpm; 181-Nm *4500-rpm
Ford Focus 1.8 Ghia - 125-hp *6000-rpm; 165-Nm *4000-rpm
Honda Civic 1.8V/S - 140-hp *6300-rpm; 174-Nm *4300-rpm


The R18A 1.8-liter SOHC i-VTEC closely matches the 2.0-liters of Ford/Mazda.

[parakitoJDM]

[QUOTE=HOLLOWMAN]

bakit di na kasama mz3?

maybe i like the civic and focus better than the mz3....(based sa mga messages)

go for a test drive on all the units. and decide which is best for you.
================================================== ====
2006 Mazda3 Facelift


Enhanced Design, Quality, Comfort and Performance
Also premiering at Geneva 2006 is the new facelift version of the highly acclaim*ed Mazda3 line up, which introduced exhilarating driving performance, emotional styling and high levels of craftsmanship to the global C-segment when it was launched in 2003. The Mazda3 facelift* takes these attributes to a new level and features even more exhil*arating driving fun with improved torque characteristics for all engines plus an available six-speed manual transmission. Styling enhancements raise the original Mazda3's emotionally-appealing first impression of sportiness and quality. And Mazda craftsmanship has also been improved, with an interior look and feel that users will appreciate every time they drive the car.

Exterior Design – Two Body Styles, Two Distinct Personalities

Adding to the emotional personality of its predecessor, the Mazda3 facelift 4-door sedan’s image of modern elegance is further enhanced. Redesigned bumpers provide a massive look and a chrome bar on the front grille expresses a high quality feel. For the 5-door hatchback, the grille's upper bar is body coloured and further refines the origi-nal’s smartly energetic Zoom-Zoom styling. In addition, 15, 16 and 17-inch aluminium alloy wheels have all been redesigned. Sports appearance package (SAP) equipment and selected options are also available to give both the 4-door and 5-door versions a more athletic look: the 4-door SAP promotes a feeling of stability, while the 5-door SAP is the sportiest model in the Mazda3 facelift line up and exudes a youthful personality.

Interior Design

Particular attention was paid to improving interior quality. Two interior colour schemes are planned, depending on grade and market, a grey interior colour for a feeling of high-class sporty refinement, and a sports-oriented black interior. Both interior colour packages received newly designed white cluster meters and a stylish piano black decoration panel.

The following summarizes information on Mazda products to be exhibited at the 2006 Geneva International Motor Show. Specifications and equipment are subject to change.

The Sports Grade (depending on market) with black interior and blackout type meters includes a decorative insert finished with a hairline treatment in the instrument panel to communicate even more high quality and sportiness.

More Mature Driving Attributes and a More Refined Ride
Mazda engineers began work on bolsteringMazda3's highly-regarded dynamic perfor-mance immediately after the original model launch, with the aim of improving fuel economy, ride comfort and quietness. To achieve this, engines and transmissions were upgraded to deliver a livelier, more comfort-able drive supported by ample torque. In addition to improving Mazda3 facelift’s handling stability, ease of operation and ride quality, Mazda also achieved further reductions in noise and vibration.

The MZR 2.0-litre petrol engine produces 110kW/150 PS of maximum power at 6,500 rpm* and maximum torque of 187 Nm at 4,000 rpm*.It adopts high-accuracy electronic throttle control for the first time, along with newly introduced sequential valve timing(S-VT).Optimal adjustment of the engine's intakevalve operation in response to running conditions achieves high charging efficiency. Together with a variable induction system(VIS), this allows the engine to achieve powerful torque throughout the whole revrange. The MZR 1.6-litre petrol engine – with a maximum power output of 77 kW/105 PS at6,000 rpm* and maximum torque of 145 Nm at4,000 rpm* – retains the same S-VT and VIS as the original model, and is calibrated to further improve fuel efficiency. The base MZR 1.4-litrepetrol engine produces 62 kW/84 PS of maxi-mum power at 6,000 rpm* and 122 Nm of maximum torque at 4,000 rpm* (depending onmarket offer). This engine is given modified valve timing based on the S-VT already employed. This heightens charging efficiency at low engine speeds without sacrificing power in the higher engine speed range to give ample torque at low and middle engine speeds for powerful, easy driving.

The MZ-CD 1.6-litre diesel engine remains in the Mazda3 facelift line up for Europe. Two versions are available with maximum power outputs of 66 kW/90 PS and 80 kW/109 PS at 4,000 rpm* and maximum torque of 215 Nm and 240 Nm at just 1,750 rpm* respectively (90 PS depending on market offer). Both deliv*er an exceptional balance of power, low fuel consumption and emissions, and low NVH. Both of these DOHC 16- valve engines feature aluminium construction for low weight,

along with a 160 MPa ultra-high pressure common-rail injection system. The standard powered diesel employs a fixed geometry turbocharger and the higher powered diesel employs a variable geometry turbocharger and also a diesel particulate filter.

The MZR 2.0-litre petrol engine is available with a newly-introduced six-speed manual transmission. Triple-cone synchronizers for first and second gears and double-cone synchronizers for third and fourth gears assure ample sync capacity for a light, crisp shift feel and predictable operation. Gear ratios between third and sixth gears are set close to provide better, stress-free passing acceleration at high speeds. The sixth gear functions as overdrive and contributes to improved quietness at high speed as well as better fuel economy.

The standard five-speed manual transmission for the MZR 1.4-litre and 1.6-litre petrols has been further refined throughout, and clutch operating feel has been improved. The MZR 1.6-litre petrol engine is also available with an electronically controlled, four-speed auto*matic transmission (depending on market).

The sound of the engine is one of the impor*tant elements affecting the vehicle’s fun-to-drive aspects, as well as good acceleration and gear shift feel. Mazda3 facelift petrol models have higher-rigidity drive shaft mountings to reduce the droning sound generated at high engine speeds and the alternator mounted on the MZR 2.0-litre petrol engine is specifically designed to reduce its operating noise. These measures result in a linear acceleration feel up to high engine speeds.

Further Evolution of Mazda3’s Acclaimed Body and Chassis

The Mazda3 facelift’s body shell has been upgraded by bolstering local rigidity for an even stiffer, safer body and even sportier han*dling and firm ride quality. The suspension system has been optimized to further reinforce Mazda3’s acclaimed Zoom-Zoom handling, while still achieving a refined and comfortable ride. Mazda3 facelift’s MacPherson strut front suspension has improved damper perfor*mance and has been tuned to improve steer*ing response and reduce understeer during high-speed cornering. The multi-link rear suspension ensures improved rear-end stabil*ity during high-speed cornering.

Improved Aerodynamics

To further enhance Mazda3 facelift's exciting dynamic performance, the aerodynamics team focused on reducing high-speed drag and improving stability. In particular, they worked to improve underfloor aerodynamics, achieving superior aerodynamic performance (for the 5-door hatchback, Cd = 0.30). In addi*tion to contributing to better fuel economy and improved high-speed acceleration, Mazda3 facelift’s upgraded aerodynamics contribute to even more exceptional handling stability, with predictable straight line driving and high-speed lane changing.

Improved Quietness

Further evolving the Zoom-Zoom driving enjoyment of the Mazda3 facelift included isolating road noise and reducing wind noise during high-speed driving. Measures taken include expanding the use of bonnet-under-side insulation to more models, revising tyres, bolstering rim rigidity, improving suspension vibration characteristics, and installing sound-absorbing material in the cabin roof of all models.

New Features for Even More Comfort and Ease-of-Use

The Mazda3 facelift employs several new features for improved comfort and ease-of-use. An advanced keyless entry and start system is introduced (depending on market and grade). Simply carrying a card-type key allows the driver to lock and unlock the doors, the boot or rear hatch, and start and stop the engine by turning the starter knob. In addition, the advanced key's lock/unlock button and outer door handle request switch enable opening or closing all windows from outside the car. In hot sunshine the car can be ventilated, or a window left open can be closed, without having to get back into the car. The Mazda3 facelift’s integrated audio system includes a 20 GB hard disk drive with capac*ity to store up to approximately 3000 tracks recorded from CDs, as well as a CD player and AM/FM tuner (depending on market offer).

High Levels of Safety

The Mazda3 facelift’s standard active safety package includes four-wheel disc brakes with ventilated 278 mm discs at the front and solid 265 mm discs at the rear (for the MZR 2.0-litre, 300 mm at the front and 280 mm at the rear), 4W-ABS, EBD and emergency brake assist. Dynamic stability control (DSC) is also available for stable handling. In addition, auto light and rain-sensing wiper systems help to maintain clear visibility of the road in bad weather and during night driving.

Mazda3 facelift’s passive safety systems feature a rigid body shell that provides excep*tional collision safety. For occupant protection, front dual airbags are standard, and side and curtain airbags are available as well (depending on market and grade).

[mackieboy]

testdrive them all... wag ka magmadali to buy any
if you need help on test driving a mazda3, pm me, i have one
and if you want more information from users here sa pinas, go to www.clubmazda3.com.ph

[HOLLOWMAN]

testdrive them all... wag ka magmadali to buy any
if you need help on test driving a mazda3, pm me, i have one
and if you want more information from users here sa pinas, go to www.clubmazda3.com.ph

sana nga noh, kaso taga pampanga pako. hollowman is not really convinced sa ford focus hatch e. Kaya maybe i'll wait for the new civic. Prob dito sa Pamp, walang test drive units. Gulat nga ako sa Ford meron.

[kimpOy]

aba fellow kabalen pala kayo...konting tiis na lang...

kung sa Honda at Ford sa Honda na ako
-new body
-new engine
-resale value
i've had EG and EK Civics before and didnt disappoint me...

[Hero]

cguro ngayon pa lang e kailangan magpa reserve ka na dahil mukhang ala mazda 3 ito pag labas pila pila!

but i believe it will be the best choice among the 3.. one concern for you is the dash mukhang malalim siya meaning malayo yung windshield from the driver parang beetle..pero you'll get used to it

[oldblue]

Honda Civic for me

next Focus

then Mazda 3 (for the reason na madami na meron)