Ford Expedition Owners & Discussions [Merged]

[rebel]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by 109
[B]Otep, you're right, and SUVs are not designed for cornering at high speeds because of high center of gravity.

I think in general the LimitedSlip is very useful in terms of safety but with the LimitedSlip on the new Expedition Ford made a lousy job thus creating a big mechanical problem for the owners.

Dito sa atin baka hindi pa masyado lumalabas yun sakit kasi karamihan bago pa expe nila.

Remember that this is very noticable during slow cornering once the problem is there. (sobra pa naman dami ng slow cornering dito sa atin).

mag 3K to 6K miles bago mo ito mapapansin hindi ko alam conversion niyan into KM.

just watchout for it incase lumabas yan problem bring it to your dealers agad for warranty.

Tandaan nyo pag kakamalan nyo na ang problem ay sa front suspension or tires but in fact it's the rear LimitedSlip that is causing the problem kasi the LimitedSlip will frooze up and will push the truck foward parang tumatalon yun gulong sa pavement in front.

[promdiboy]

109 sa ford.com.ph undder accesories ng expedition. yung flares 20 th daw. bili ka pala ng di susi sa gas tank. baka may loko pagtripan gas mo. 1,650 ata.

rebel lupit mo dude. sinilip ko yung EB version ganda sobra. air susppension standard na 4x4, moonroof, DVD para kang nasa first cclass, . tsaka yung power foldding 3rd row. how much mo nakuha?
maganda rin yung bagong lower grill ng xlt simple pero maporma. papatanong ako sa tate kung magkano. meron kasi ako nabasa sa for truck forum tinamaan daw ng bato yung aircon niya, dumaan sa lower opening.
consider ko yung tires mahal kasi 17.

[rebel]

Promdiboy,
Tagal ako nag research bago ako nag order ng expe I think last september pa ako nag simula mag research.

yun bebenta ng ford phils dito by second quarter ay 4x4 model pero yun ni order ko sa LA ay 4x2 lang na Eddie Bauer and hindi ito naka air-suspension kasi ang air suspension or Load Levelling Suspension ay options.

Yun sa akin wala moonroof, airsuspension, power 3rd row at hindi 4x4.

kasi konti lang difference ng price of xlt at eddie bauer considering all the amenities ng eddie bauer.

Eddie Bauer has the following additionals:
1. Leather Seats
2. Lower bumper Grill
3. wheel-lip Moldings
4. side mirror with integrated turn signals
5. Dual Zone Electronic Automatic Temperature Controls
6. Memory Feature- Driver's Seat, sideview mirrors and power adjustable accelerator and brake pedals
7. Steering wheel with duplicate audio and climate control
8. The side mirror tilts downward during reverse
9. two tone (without the EB premium Package)

I'm not sure of exact price difference pero estimate ko nasa less than $2,000 lang for same base model ng xlt to eddie bauer.

Yun unit ko cost around $34,000 plus yata after rebates pero I'll have to spend mga $1,750 for shipping pa.

kaya umabot yan ng $34K kasi I order the base unit ng expe with the 5.4L engine and climate controlled seats and rear DVD and Eddie Bauer Premium Package.

Lets not talk about the tax kasi hindi applicable yan sa unit ko dahil papasok yan dito ng tax-exempt.

Balita ko bebenta ng ford yun 4x4 na eddie bauer around 3.5M yata or more.

[lui]

kung kaya nio po mkabili nyan e d ung gas kaya nio dn! hehe biro lang. ako yoko tlaga sa mga mlalakas sa gas kya 3cyl. lang mkina ng oto ko. bwaaahhh

[109]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by rebel
[B]

Originally posted by 109
Otep, you're right, and SUVs are not designed for cornering at high speeds because of high center of gravity.

I think in general the LimitedSlip is very useful in terms of safety but with the LimitedSlip on the new Expedition Ford made a lousy job thus creating a big mechanical problem for the owners.

Dito sa atin baka hindi pa masyado lumalabas yun sakit kasi karamihan bago pa expe nila.

Remember that this is very noticable during slow cornering once the problem is there. (sobra pa naman dami ng slow cornering dito sa atin).

mag 3K to 6K miles bago mo ito mapapansin hindi ko alam conversion niyan into KM.

just watchout for it incase lumabas yan problem bring it to your dealers agad for warranty.

Tandaan nyo pag kakamalan nyo na ang problem ay sa front suspension or tires but in fact it's the rear LimitedSlip that is causing the problem kasi the LimitedSlip will frooze up and will push the truck foward parang tumatalon yun gulong sa pavement in front.

that problem applies to some vehicles only and not to all units, otherwise there would have been a recall.............. sana walang magkaganun na unit d2 sa pinas.

bakit kaya walang air-suspension ang mga pinarating dito mga 2003models unlike the old expy meron airsuspension?

[promdiboy]

rebel are you from clark or SBMA?

109 di pa ako nakasakay sa gen 1 expedition, mas comfortable ba sumakay sa gen1 with air suspension vs gen 2 ?

[109]

Originally posted by PROMDIBOY
rebel are you from clark or SBMA?

109 di pa ako nakasakay sa gen 1 expedition, mas comfortable ba sumakay sa gen1 with air suspension vs gen 2 ?

yes very comfy ang gen1 with air suspension kaya lang when cruising at highway speeds at napadaan ka sa lubak na medyo malalim, malayo ka na sa lubak ay umaalon ka pa hehe mahihilo ka tuloy.

but i also like the gen2, medyo firmer.

went to the province yesterday around 150km from manila medyo rough road, me napansin na kong rattles sa door driver side. Yun ang sakit ng expdtion, ganun din yung gen1 ko.

[rebel]

Originally posted by 109
that problem applies to some vehicles only and not to all units, otherwise there would have been a recall.............. sana walang magkaganun na unit d2 sa pinas.

bakit kaya walang air-suspension ang mga pinarating dito mga 2003models unlike the old expy meron airsuspension?

Totoo yan maybe not to all units ng expedition pero one thing is for sure because of this problem they have removed LimitedSlip for 2004 models.

I won't be surprise if there would be a recall in the near future for the 2003 models with LimitesSlip.

Yun airsuspension nila for this new expe is sa Rear lang and it's called LOAD LEVELLING SUSPENSION usefull when you use your expe for towing.

The LLS is only available for 5.4L engines exclusively.

I'm not familiar with the old model expe pero parang may air suspension din yun sa harap.

[rebel]

Originally posted by PROMDIBOY
rebel are you from clark or SBMA?

109 di pa ako nakasakay sa gen 1 expedition, mas comfortable ba sumakay sa gen1 with air suspension vs gen 2 ?

I'm from Clark.

Down side with the Expe that I'm bringing over is I won't have any Warranty at all.

We asked Ford Phils many times to let us import the unit thru them to avail of the warranty but they are not interested.

I'm not sure kung ilan KM ang warranty ng bagong expe pero I'll be able to clock 50,000 Km for only 12 months.

[rebel]

Originally posted by 109
yes very comfy ang gen1 with air suspension kaya lang when cruising at highway speeds at napadaan ka sa lubak na medyo malalim, malayo ka na sa lubak ay umaalon ka pa hehe mahihilo ka tuloy.

but i also like the gen2, medyo firmer.

went to the province yesterday around 150km from manila medyo rough road, me napansin na kong rattles sa door driver side. Yun ang sakit ng expdtion, ganun din yung gen1 ko.

Check this out for the rattle http://www.ford-truck.com/forums/sho...B%25252Brattle

There is also a TSB about the problem. (#03-23-03 -- 2003 EXPEDITION/NAVIGATOR: BODY - TRIM -
NOISE FROM DOOR CLADDING)

17078 2003 EXPEDITION/NAVIGATOR - RATTLE, RUBBING OR
TICKING NOISE FROM DOOR
SOME 2003 EXPEDITIONS/NAVIGATORS BUILT BEFORE 7/21/03
MAY EXHIBIT A RATTLE, RUBBING OR TICKING NOISE FROM
ONE OR MORE DOORS DUE TO EXCESS MOVEMENT OF THE DOOR
RELATIVE TO THE LATCH STRIKER PLATE. TO VERIFY, DRIVE
VEHICLE AND MANUALLY PULL DOOR INBOARD WHILE NOISE IS
PRESENT. IF NOISE IS UNCHANGED, CLADDING RATTLE IS A
MORE LIKELY CAUSE. IF NOISE DECREASES, REPLACE
WEATHER- STRIP AND/OR DOOR LATCH ONLY ON THE AFFECTED
DOOR(S) AS NEEDED BASED ON BUILD DATE: UNITS BLT AFTER
05/12/03 CONTAIN REVISED WEATHERSTRIP; UNITS BLT AFTER
7/21/03 CONTAIN REVISED LATCHES. DO 'NOT' RESET DOORS
- DOOR CLOSING EFFORTS WILL DECREASE IN 2 WEEKS AS
SEALS AGE. WEATHERSTRIP: 3L1Z-7820708-BA (FRONT); 3L1Z-78253A10-BA (REAR). DOOR LATCH: 4L1Z-78219A64-AA(RT FNT), 4L1Z- 78219A65-AA(LEFT FNT), 4L1Z-78264A00-AA(RT RR), 4L1Z-78264A01-AA(LEFT RR)

I would suggest you go to your ford dealer and show them this TSB for them to fix the problem.

Good Luck!

[rebel]

Finally found the post regarding the LimiteSlip.

Article No.
03-19-8 STEERING - LIMITED SLIP AXLE CHATTER, SHUDDER, BINDING SENSATION, OR VIBRATION DURING LOW SPEED TURNS
VIBRATION - LIMITED SLIP AXLE CHATTER, SHUDDER, BINDING SENSATION, OR VIBRATION DURING LOW SPEED TURNS
AXLE - LIMITED SLIP AXLE CHATTER, SHUDDER, BINDING SENSATION, OR VIBRATION DURING LOW SPEED TURNS

FORD: 2003 EXPEDITION
LINCOLN: 2003 NAVIGATOR


ISSUE:
Some 2003 Expedition/Navigator equipped with the 9.75" or 8.8" limited slip rear axle may exhibit chatter, shudder, a binding sensation, or vibration during low speed turns. The sensation may appear to originate from the front axle, or the steering gear.

ACTION:
To service, first verify the condition. With the vehicle at cold startup. Ensure that the vehicle is in 2WD, to isolate the rear axle. Turn the wheel fully right (or fully left) and then accelerate the vehicle. If the condition is verified to be in the rear axle, replace the limited- slip clutch pack.

For more details check out: http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/sh...hreadid=153520

[rebel]

Does anyone here have BRAKEDUST problems for the new expe?

[109]

everybody.
not really a serious problem, hugasan lang lagi ung wheel.

[rebel]

Lagi hugas dapat yan everyday kung hindi mag stain yan sa running boards.

[rebel]

Had anyone here tried parking the new expedition at SM Megamall ?

Alam ko pwede ito sa Shangrila at Galleria.

[OTEP]

Yung GEN I Expy kasya sa Megamall. Except dun sa Building A parking ata yun. Yung may low clearance section.

[rebel]

Paano kaya yun Gen2 na expe may nakita naba kayo nagkasya?

Building A ba yun Cinema or Building B????

[109]

meron. last december nakatabi ko pa nagpark sa Mega A.
gen1 sa kin, black gen2 katabi ko. mas mhaba at mataas lang yata ng konte ang gen2.

[promdiboy]

pag painted running boards lang yata ang nastain ng brake dust. yung local kasi kakulay naman ng brake dust. sa wheels madali lang tanggalin kahit ilang weeks mo iwan.
pag pumunta ka pala baguio expedition city dun pag holidays. lahat ng mga rim nila sa harap maiitim.
natry ko palang sa sm baguio mag park sa basement kami maluwag for expedition.

[109]

maganda kaya kung lagyan ko ng turn signal light ang side mirror?
http://woodfam.com/ryan/expedition/e...30426_1011.jpg