Ford 2.0L is it worth it? (Seeking Feedback)

[jrebong0]

Been thinking of buying a car lately and I'm seeing a lot of ford 2.0L hatchback in the market (circa 2005 version)

Is this car good? Any one out there who can give me feedback? I viewed the focus thread -- http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26390 -- but it lacks info and seems to have suddenly stopped.

Please advice if this is still good value for money or if its just a potential headache.

If i dont buy this, i think ill just go buy something like a bnew nissan 1.3

Thanks

[ghosthunter]

I think you would be buying someone else's headache if you push through getting the 2005 Focus 2.0L HB. Parts would be difficult and expensive.

I'd rather be more conservative and look into used cars by Toyota, Nissan, Honda and Mitsubishi. You'll thanks yourself in the long run when you do parts replacement and maintenance on it.

[marg]

I think it would make a great 2nd car. Tipong for fun project and not for everyday.

If the price is a steal then go for it!

[jrebong0]

Ok, so far the choice is a) 2005 2.0 HB or b) 2006 1.8 sedan. Wonder which is better. btw: Same mileage and almost same price if the ads are to be believed

[Gerbo]

Ok, so far the choice is a) 2005 2.0 HB or b) 2006 1.8 sedan. Wonder which is better. btw: Same mileage and almost same price if the ads are to be believed

A 2.0 L car worth pursuing in the 2nd car market is the manual Civic.

[Burai]

id go for the sentra's cooling capacity

between the two na lang po ba pagpipilian nyo? kung ako lang yung bibili ill go for the hatch kahit na ba mas luma, kasi fave ko hehe pero no the 2.0 i think has the more power to carry this car. and sa pagkakaalam ko DATI, yang 2.0 yata is the higher end nung wala pa diesel variant so meaning madaming kasama hehehe. nga lang mukang expensive yan to own..

[ghosthunter]

I think it would make a great 2nd car. Tipong for fun project and not for everyday.

If the price is a steal then go for it!

I wouldn't even consider the Ford Focus 2.0L as a project car unless you have a lot of funds to waste. It's simply too expensive with a majority of parts only available through the casa or costing near to casa prices.

*thread starter:
If you want a 2.0L car, you might want to look at the Civic 2.0, Lancer 2.0 even Sentra 1.8L and Corolla 1.8L.

Mazda3 in the same boat as a Focus. Parts too expensive if something goes wrong.

[BlueJazz]

Ford, Mazda and Honda are cars expensive to maintain. The difference in prices of replacement parts are minimal for the 3 brands.

The Ford HB is a fun car to drive, but not really comfortable when you are the passenger. This is a car with the back seats almost useless for adults.

My friend just got a 2.0L HB for 450k, late 2005 model, first hand with low mileage. Gas mileage is terrible at 4-5km/liter. Now he opts to just leave the HB at home and drive his Mazda3. Buying the Ford was a waste of money.

[AG4]

Ok, so far the choice is a) 2005 2.0 HB or b) 2006 1.8 sedan. Wonder which is better. btw: Same mileage and almost same price if the ads are to be believed

Check the condition of the car.
The 2.0 Sport HB with its sporty black/dark gray interior looks better than the 1.8 sedan, but if you need a bigger trunk, go for the sedan.

One of the cars I drive is a lower spec Focus Trend sedan, impressive car.

jrebong0, there are many Focus owners at "Ford Club of the Philippines" they might be able to help you.

My friend just got a 2.0L HB for 450k, late 2005 model, first hand with low mileage. Gas mileage is terrible at 4-5km/liter.

Thats the lowest FC figures I've heard so far, maybe that used Focus 2.0 wasn't well maintained by the previous owner...
I've heard of other Focus 2.0 HB owners getting 6-7 km/L in city driving (depending on how heavy the traffic is), but as low 4 km/L? Thats a first, something might be wrong with that car.

[s_quilicot]

i cant fit my self at the backseat of FOCUS HB.

grabe unless skinny ka and ka height ni gloria.

[AG4]

i cant fit my self at the backseat of FOCUS HB.

grabe unless skinny ka and ka height ni gloria.

Was the front seat adjusted to a six footer? ...or do you happen to be a six footer?

With the front seat adjusted to a 5' 7 driver, there's still some extra knee room at the back for a 5' 8 passenger directly seated behind the driver.

Focus seats are tall, so the passenger's legs are not stretched out like in the Civic or other low cars.

[s_quilicot]

Was the front seat adjusted to a six footer? ...or do you happen to be a six footer?

With the front seat adjusted to a 5' 7 driver, there's still some extra knee room at the back for a 5' 8 passenger directly seated behind the driver.

when i adjusted the seat full, it almost touched the rear seat but still feels "masikip" for me i stand almost 6 feet now

since they cant enter the rear seat so adjusted the seat a little forward and still theyre cramped at the back and its very irritating o me.

overall masikip talaga focus HB for me.

[niky]

It's the psychological effect of the low ceiling and tight C-pillars... wish they'd fix that with the new one...

4-5 km/l? Where does he drive it? From a condo in Ortigas to an office in Ortigas in rush hour?

The 2.0 is a better car than the 1.8. Handles better, better wearing interior. Nice car to "porma" up, but as a modder's project, difficult. Automatic transmission, no choice but brand-name parts. The funny thing... it's actually sometimes easier and more cost-effec tive buying aftermarket suspension and braking parts than buying stock.

[jrebong0]

Thanks for the feedback..

So talagang mahal pala maintenance ng ford.. (I was also looking at a bnew mazda actually.. pero ala ba talaga parts sa labas para makamura?)

Honda civic sana, kaso I feel the price these people are asking for their second hand civic is unreasonable. Oo maganda civic and medyo matibay but for an avergage of 650k for a 3 year old car? heh..

[AG4]

Thanks for the feedback..

So talagang mahal pala maintenance ng ford.. (I was also looking at a bnew mazda actually.. pero ala ba talaga parts sa labas para makamura?)

After your Mazda or Ford's warranty expires, I guess you can go to shops like Mazford in Banawe.

[niky]

Outside shops carry certain parts. You can now get brake pads, discs and shocks from the outside. Places like Mazford will carry electronics. They do for our Lynxes, but I'm not so sure about the Focii and Mazda3.

It won't be as easy as finding parts for more common cars, but for most contingencies, it won't be nearly as hard as servicing, say, a Volvo.

[jrebong0]

I'm having problems deciding on what to buy

1. A new car -- the new city, sentra (very cheap), mazda3

2. 2nd hand car -- 2005up Ford

Why ford? I think civic owners asks too much for their second hand cars (uhh.. guys, civic is just another car. hindi po ginto yan). When I see altis, I see nothing that makes me want to buy it. Ditto for a lancer and a sentra. I mean there is just nothing there that would make me want to spend half a million pesos++.. And I kinda like the looks of the ford better than the mazda3..

Un nga lang a measly 6-8kms/liter daw FC on heavy traffic.. (My previous car - 2000 civic AT was consistent at 9-10)

Hirap magdecide.. everyday nagbabago isip depending on the 'stars'.. magcommute na lang kaya hehehe.. (ang init kasi)

Pero currently obsessing about: 2006 FordFocus 1.8 Sedan.
(Yoko na nung HB.. 6.4kms/ltr daw sabi nung me ari and ingat na ingat pa daw sya nun para makatipid sa gas)

[Burai]

mahirap kapag obsessed ka na sa isang specific car na.

if heat is one of your problems then yun nga go for sentra :D
the new city's good pero kung naghahanap ka rin naman ng 2nd hand na car at natipuhan mo new city, ask ko lang bakit di mo nasama sa pagpipilian mo previous gen na city?

and teka, mahal ba talaga mazda ford at honda parts? mazda lang halos naririnig kong prices eh at wala akong idea na mahal na pala yun..

commuting is good lalo na pag everyday pero having a ride is much better. useful kapag rush hours, mondays, special occasions, porma and stuff. ako need ko lang car pag monday, sat and sun

bale choices ko so far
-sentra (250k yata pinaka mababa kong nakita 2nd hand, bnew 500k+ yata)
for aircon and space
-prev gen city (around 300k 2nd hand)
for fuel economy
-ford hb
for porma haha

[jrebong0]

# ask ko lang bakit di mo nasama sa pagpipilian mo previous gen na city?

Parang ano kasi sya -- parang car na napipi. I dont like how it looks

# and teka, mahal ba talaga mazda ford at honda parts?

No idea also about prices. Me nagsabi lang dito sa thread na ito na mahal daw at sobrang high maintenance ung ford. Pero no idea about that really.

Here is what is currently going thru my mind

1. New city -

Pros: Good Looks, very good FC (12-15kms/ltr)

Cons: Cost

A city 1.3 AT will cost about 812,552 including lto, insurance..etc.. Then if 20% down, add 170k in interest payments for 4 years. In short, I will be paying something like 980k to get this car

2. The ford focus 2005

Pros: Price. Just around 450k.., Its about 150mm wider. Thats almost the width of a small child (read as: I have a small child)

Cons: Not new. Has 30k mileage. As for FC, the owner says its about 8kms/ltr

Key question thats bothering me

The price difference is 500k. But in ten years, will the cost of maintaining the ford, factoring also gas prices, be such that in the end.. I would end up paying more for the ford than for the honda.

Btw: I dropped sentra from my list. Masyadong mababa FC to justify buying it. And its also not that big. Pati nga ung lancer, nagulat ako kasi the width is just 1695mm.. The same as the new city.