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    #6341
    Quote Originally Posted by number001 View Post
    This may have been covered before already and I used the search function to no avail.

    Why does the XL engine have less output than the XLT?


    XL
    Maximum Power (ps/rpm) :
    120*3,700

    Maximum Torque (Nm/rpm) :
    285*1,500-2,500



    XLT
    Maximum Power (ps/rpm) :
    150*3,700

    Maximum Torque (Nm/rpm) :
    375*1,500-2,500
    They say it's because the XL has no VGT.

    I think that Ford intentionally gave it less power because a lower state of tune means less stress on the engine and potentially better durability. Since the lower-end models are usually used as workhorses, durability is a primary consideration.

    As you would see, all intercooler issues are with XLT and WT models.


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    #6342
    ^^^ They made it like that so they could price it competitively for fleet purchases. Don't over analyze everything.

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    #6343
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    ^^^ They made it like that so they could price it competitively for fleet purchases. Don't over analyze everything.
    So why didn't they give the Defender the same 150hp/375Nm that the Ranger has? Why only 120hp/350Nm? Is it also because of cost?

    Cost is one factor, but durability is equally important if you plan to use the truck as a workhorse.


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    #6344
    stability. high center ang defender.

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    #6345
    What do you think of this?

    Cover lids / Canopies - Ford - FORD RANGER T6 (New) '11/2012->

    is it worth than the locally available lid? more than 60kphp plus shipping cost.

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    #6346
    Quote Originally Posted by rktec G View Post
    What do you think of this?

    Cover lids / Canopies - Ford - FORD RANGER T6 (New) '11/2012->

    is it worth than the locally available lid? more than 60kphp plus shipping cost.
    For half the price you can get a Pace Edwards roller lid that has the same features. AND that is with no shipping cost and already installed by a professional installer. E yan may shiping pa then babayad ka pa ng magi-install. And how about warranty and repair?

    Answer is a big NO.

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    #6347
    Quote Originally Posted by niwde11 View Post
    stability. high center ang defender.

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    And an extra 30 hp will make it tip over? If you want on-road stability, get an anti-roll bar. Some Defenders actually came with it from the factory.

    All Defender owners I've talked to prefer that their 2.2 Puma be slightly detuned if the tradeoff is better durability. Noone wants a broken intercooler in the middle of a jungle.



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    #6348
    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    For half the price you can get a Pace Edwards roller lid that has the same features. AND that is with no shipping cost and already installed by a professional installer. E yan may shiping pa then babayad ka pa ng magi-install. And how about warranty and repair?

    Answer is a big NO.
    I've read in some post here or other sites that Pace Edwards (not sure) and carryboy lid are not also worth it. Though that doesnt make this Greek product any better since no one had tested it yet. As mentioned, the locally available products would get stuck or misaligned and needs consistent maintenance to have it work properly. They also said that water leaks inside the bed.

    Anyway, thanks for the info.

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    #6349
    ^^^ i have a pe, it only leaks when it rains really hard. Light to moderate rain the gutters can handle it. Baka naman the local roller lids you refer to are the ones without the vynil top.

    All roller lids will require maintenance. Given na yan if you want one installed you must be willing to spend half a day every year to go back to the installer so they can clean and lubricate it. Or diy, if you are so inclined.

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    #6350
    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    ^^^ i have a pe, it only leaks when it rains really hard. Light to moderate rain the gutters can handle it. Baka naman the local roller lids you refer to are the ones without the vynil top.

    All roller lids will require maintenance. Given na yan if you want one installed you must be willing to spend half a day every year to go back to the installer so they can clean and lubricate it. Or diy, if you are so inclined.
    Im now inclined to get from PE, rather than this Greek product. Its just seems look better on their specifications and the toughness of the lid where 4 persons can sit on top of it, though of course we are not going to do that anyway.

    Where can I get Pace Edwards roller lid for Wildtrak? Is there any supplier/installer, south of luzon?

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    #6351
    you might also want to check areoklas...

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    #6352
    Di ba walang vynil top yung aeroklas? Pag walang vynil top tumutulo kahit ambon lang.

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    #6353
    Having my car serviced for 20,000 km PMS and also having my powertrain error checked. Hindi lumabas sa diagnostic yung error (probably because it didnt go to limp mode).

    Mamaya iroroad test nalang namin - need to run at 150 so kailangan mag-Skyway siguro.

    Makati Ford is so much better than BGC. Pati accessories okay - Microtex and Air Spencer binibenta nila.


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    Finished my 20k km PMS. Paid only P7,220 - even less than what I paid in BGC for 10k, partida free labor pa daw yun.

    My powertrain warning light was also checked. We tried putting a new air filter, and then ran the car up to 165 kph on SLEX to NAIA3. No warning light. On the way back we tried again, still no warning light.

    Pinalinis ko yung air filter ko then binalik siya. Will go out of town next week so I'll try if my powetrain warning light turns on again if running at speed with the old filter.

    They also fixed my squeaky gear shifter. Yung squeaky clutch ko hindi naayos even after adding grease, baka daw kailangan palitan buong assembly. They already had it filed for warranty.

    Mabait din mga ahente nila, hindi puro salestalk. I tried the Fiesta Ecoboost and the ahente wasn't overbearing.

    Overall I'm really happy with the service at Makati Ford and I recommend it to anyone who needs to have their Ford serviced, or is looking for a Ford vehicle.


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    #6355
    I think most people who are posting either have the XLT or WildTrak.

    Any XL 4x2 Hi-Rider or 4x4 owners here ?

    I'm really interested to know more about the engine performance of the XL.

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    #6356
    wow! that was a long thread. read the entire thing.
    i'm planning to get a diesel fed suv or pick up soon. still trying to decide which to get but the current ranger is definitely in my crosshair.


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    #6357
    Saan kaya pumasok tubig? Basa lahat ng under carpet, naabsorb nung white fiberish material. Passenger side both front and back. malinis yung tubig, about half liter natanggal ko sa harap.

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    #6358
    Check mo sir aircon drain hose mo,

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    #6359
    Normal ba talaga black smoke with particles pag nire rev on stand still? Still on 2000 km reading only thanks

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    #6360
    Quote Originally Posted by ketzch11 View Post
    Normal ba talaga black smoke with particles pag nire rev on stand still? Still on 2000 km reading only thanks
    Normal lang yun sir. mawala din yan.

2012 Ford Ranger