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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    This old, outdated advice keeps on being given, don't you think the hose inside the fuel tank gets fuel from the bottom of the tank? How else would it be able to get fuel? Does it sip from the top part of the fuel tank? Then there's also the fuel filter, it will get clogged long before dirt can go to the engine.
    In fairness, this advice is still true and very logical. When fuel is less the contaminants tends to concentrate in the bottom where the level of fuel remains than when it is full or half empty where these are scattered over a big volume of fuel and may have remain suspended, so the chances of siphoning contaminants as well is less than compared to when near empty. Well, filter is there but still it is not 100% guarantee that it can filter out all, as there have been a lot of cases already that crdi components been damaged due to contaminants in diesel fuel. Diesel fuel filters still have a very fine mesh so chances are it can allow particles to go through if particles are finer than the mesh in the filters.Otherwise it will not flow at all if you closed the mesh! Filters can get damaged too without you knowing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JX290 View Post
    In fairness, this advice is still true and very logical. When fuel is less the contaminants tends to concentrate in the bottom where the level of fuel remains than when it is full or half empty where these are scattered over a big volume of fuel and may have remain suspended, so the chances of siphoning contaminants as well is less than compared to when near empty. Well, filter is there but still it is not 100% guarantee that it can filter out all, as there have been a lot of cases already that crdi components been damaged due to contaminants in diesel fuel. Diesel fuel filters still have a very fine mesh so chances are it can allow particles to go through if particles are finer than the mesh in the filters.Otherwise it will not flow at all if you closed the mesh! Filters can get damaged too without you knowing it.
    Correct. Whether the contaminants be in the bottom, middle or top, the less fuel you have, the less space there is for these contaminants to move and the greater chance is will be sucked in by the fuel lines.

    Doesnt hurt really to keep your fuel above 1/4.

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    Mga sir, ok lang po ba yung XLT Automatic? Interms of power/fuel consumption? Any cons and pros compared to XLT Manual?
    Pag di ako mkakuha ng wildtrak by December, im thinking XLT nlng automatic pra din madali lang gamitin for my wife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruz View Post
    ah ganon b sir, di ganon sa akin. kasi tinitignan ko yung km pag nasimulang magkarga at nakikita ko saglit lang nagbabago sya . tumataas sya habang nagkakarga ng diesel . once kasi may nagpost dito regarding sa delayed response nung remaining km nya pagkatapos nya magkarga, kaya nag tsek din ako pero nakita ok naman yung sa akin. kaya everytime nagkakarga ako mino monitor ko rin


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    Quote Originally Posted by ruz View Post
    yung sa guage ang alam ko ganun din sir, anyway tsek ko rin yung sa guage. sa km mas sure ako kasi mino monitor ko palagi galaw nya habang nagkakarg ako diesel


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    Obviously, we can''t just rely dun sa reading dun sa panel. Hinde talaga siya accurate minsan, or sometimes delayed siya mag-update. Like Sir kng200 mentioned, as much as possible siguro atleast 20liters(approximately 800-1k petot) ang maikarga nten na fuel if the panel shows low level of fuel already. When the incident happened last week with our unit(refer to page 517), yung 8km reading nung unit nung tumirik became 85km nung kinargahan ng 11liters of fuel which was worth 500php. Nag-change yung km reading pero yung needle halos hinde din gumalaw. Tapos minsan naman when we usually have our unit filled-up completely, minsan 7++km distance to empty, minsan 8++km, minsan naman 9++km ang reading. Paiba-iba considering na nag-rarange lang naman yung volume of liters na kinarga for full tank dun sa mga visits sa gas station would be between 75-79liters. Tapos one-time naman reading nung panel was 65km to empty, tapos pagkastart ko the following day nung gagamitin na ulit yung unit naging 105km eh hinde pa ako nag-papakarga nun. Tapos nung nag-deteriorate na yung 105km reading to 35km after the using the unit, pagkastart ko ulit dun sa unit few days after of usage, from 35km naging 92km to empty. Basta minsan ganun unit namen...


    Quote Originally Posted by ek2jayvee View Post
    Guys rule number 1 sa mga common rail e fill up once you reach the 1/4 level. The dirt trapped in the bottom of the tank will be abrasive for the high pressure compnents.

    Follow-up ko lang.. May nakapag egr blank na ba ng T6 dito? Looks like sa Australia they are not getting any CEL..
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    This old, outdated advice keeps on being given, don't you think the hose inside the fuel tank gets fuel from the bottom of the tank? How else would it be able to get fuel? Does it sip from the top part of the fuel tank? Then there's also the fuel filter, it will get clogged long before dirt can go to the engine.

    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    diesel and gasoline engines are at their best efficiency when running at its highest torque output. so if the torque curve is highest at 1500-2500 rpm then that is where it is most efficient. running at below 1500 rpm is less efficient.

    crdi pumps use fuel to cool the pump. there is always excess fuel that goes back to the tank, and the tank acts a cooling heat exchanger. if there is less fuel in the tank there is also less cooling. so yes, masama sa engine yung konti na lang fuel sa tank. paminsan-minsan ok lang, like if hindi talaga maiwasan. but as all casas advice, it is better not to let the fuel tank go below 1/4.

    just wanted to share what i know. i'm still wishing to buy one (or the new eve).
    Quote Originally Posted by JX290 View Post
    In fairness, this advice is still true and very logical. When fuel is less the contaminants tends to concentrate in the bottom where the level of fuel remains than when it is full or half empty where these are scattered over a big volume of fuel and may have remain suspended, so the chances of siphoning contaminants as well is less than compared to when near empty. Well, filter is there but still it is not 100% guarantee that it can filter out all, as there have been a lot of cases already that crdi components been damaged due to contaminants in diesel fuel. Diesel fuel filters still have a very fine mesh so chances are it can allow particles to go through if particles are finer than the mesh in the filters.Otherwise it will not flow at all if you closed the mesh! Filters can get damaged too without you knowing it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Djerms View Post
    Correct. Whether the contaminants be in the bottom, middle or top, the less fuel you have, the less space there is for these contaminants to move and the greater chance is will be sucked in by the fuel lines.

    Doesnt hurt really to keep your fuel above 1/4.

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    So Sirs, do you think that prior we recieved our units from the casa/planta/Thailand, it already acquired engine damage? I'm saying this because when our unit was released from the casa(probably same with other units), the low level fuel indictator was already lid-up, as well as the fuel gauge needle is close to empty, then it only had 65km distance to empty(I'm guessing 10-12liters) . Having an odo reading * 9kms was understandable because most likely, the unit went through some testing maybe through a dynamometer before it left the plant. But the Ford people themselves put the unit through some quality testing with low levels of fuel in the tank. Could have that test contaminated and damaged the engine initally prior to us getting our units?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JX290 View Post
    Sir the ecm shutdown your engine to prevent damage to fuel system components from lack of lubrication( diesel acts also as lubricant for the crdi high pressure pump) at saka hindi rin advisable na sisingutin nyo halos ang tangke nyo kasi ang sediments sa ilalim ng tangke mahihigop din.
    Regarding din sa fc nyo almost same lang sa akin ngayon I only average 12 km/l.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djerms View Post
    Thats a very dangerous thing you experimented on. Sa diesel as much as possible you dobt empty tank. Muh better nga if you maibtain 1/4 to 1/2 at least so yung sediments hindi din mahihigop ng pump.

    Agree with jx90
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    Sirs, definitely what I experimented "again" with my unit wasn't really advisable. The reason why I mentioned "again" from my previous statement is because that I already attempted to do this the first time when the unit was still * it's break-in period. Before nung sinubukan ko siya isagad, the unit's reading was 0km distance to travel before I filled-up. Kahit na 0km na yung reading sa panel, I was still able to run a kilometer or two on an uphill road before I filled-up with fuel dun sa gas station along that road. Hinde naman ako tumirik nor the powertrain light lid up when it reached 0km. Kaya when I tried it the second time around na isagad ulit sa 0km before filling-up(syempre to check if nag-iimprove nga ang FC ng T6 after the break-in period, which significantly improved btw), I was confident na hinde naman ako siguro titirik. Kaya I was a bit amazed last week when it happened nung tumirik na yung unit still reading 8km distance to empty dun sa panel. Of course the reading dun panel is just an estimate of the ECU, and we can't just rely on that. Surely, this wont happen again..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ek2jayvee View Post
    Guys rule number 1 sa mga common rail e fill up once you reach the 1/4 level. The dirt trapped in the bottom of the tank will be abrasive for the high pressure compnents.

    Follow-up ko lang.. May nakapag egr blank na ba ng T6 dito? Looks like sa Australia they are not getting any CEL..
    also kung p500 lang ikakarga, hindi gagalaw guage. dapat 1k worth of diesel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kng200 View Post
    also kung p500 lang ikakarga, hindi gagalaw guage. dapat 1k worth of diesel.
    pero sir di ba , yung km remaining tumataas sya kahit kaunti lang ikarga mo diesel ? napapansin ko kasi yon pag nag fill up ng diesel kahit kaunti pa lang nilalagay gumagalaw na yung km. parang pati yung guage ko gumagalaw kahit 500 lang kinakarga ko.


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    Hi guys ano tawag sa bed cover na to? Credits to the owner of the picture. I cant remember where i got it.





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    Quote Originally Posted by dcph172 View Post
    Hi guys ano tawag sa bed cover na to? Credits to the owner of the picture. I cant remember where i got it.





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    I think that's the Tri-fold Cover by Ride Inc.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcph172 View Post
    Hi guys ano tawag sa bed cover na to? Credits to the owner of the picture. I cant remember where i got it.





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    nice bed cover. mas pogi siguro yan kung ang bedliner niya katulad ng WT at 1st batch ng xlt. neat tignan. i wonder kung pasok ang balikbayan box diyan. very nice bed cover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruz View Post
    pero sir di ba , yung km remaining tumataas sya kahit kaunti lang ikarga mo diesel ? napapansin ko kasi yon pag nag fill up ng diesel kahit kaunti pa lang nilalagay gumagalaw na yung km. parang pati yung guage ko gumagalaw kahit 500 lang kinakarga ko.


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    yung sakin hindi. kailangan lagpas 500. let say 60kms left tos naglagay ako 500. hindi tataas guage at kms left. kaya simula nun lagi 1k minimum karga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kng200 View Post
    yung sakin hindi. kailangan lagpas 500. let say 60kms left tos naglagay ako 500. hindi tataas guage at kms left. kaya simula nun lagi 1k minimum karga.
    ah ganon b sir, di ganon sa akin. kasi tinitignan ko yung km pag nasimulang magkarga at nakikita ko saglit lang nagbabago sya . tumataas sya habang nagkakarga ng diesel . once kasi may nagpost dito regarding sa delayed response nung remaining km nya pagkatapos nya magkarga, kaya nag tsek din ako pero nakita ok naman yung sa akin. kaya everytime nagkakarga ako mino monitor ko rin


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    Quote Originally Posted by ruz View Post
    ah ganon b sir, di ganon sa akin. kasi tinitignan ko yung km pag nasimulang magkarga at nakikita ko saglit lang nagbabago sya . tumataas sya habang nagkakarga ng diesel . once kasi may nagpost dito regarding sa delayed response nung remaining km nya pagkatapos nya magkarga, kaya nag tsek din ako pero nakita ok naman yung sa akin. kaya everytime nagkakarga ako mino monitor ko rin


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    yung sa guage ang alam ko ganun din sir, anyway tsek ko rin yung sa guage. sa km mas sure ako kasi mino monitor ko palagi galaw nya habang nagkakarg ako diesel


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    Quote Originally Posted by harvzz View Post
    I think that's the Tri-fold Cover by Ride Inc.....

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    any idea how much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kng200 View Post
    any idea how much?
    Di ko natanong sa kanila yan eh... Di kasi interesado... Siguro nasa 20k below... Trapal lang kasi yun na may frame...

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    Sir walter, it is one of the advice that is old but seems to work. Never had any bad experience with our crdis by practicing that. Since 2006 pa.

    Frequent fuel filter change is another good advice.

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    Nga pala, I remember na may nabasa ako dito tungkol sa tabingi ng tindig ng mga ranger natin. I confirm mine just today na ganun din. Matagal na rin kasi akong duda na parang hindi pantay, kaya kanina sinukat ko ang bawat gilid with steel tape habang nasa grahe ko. 3/4 inch ang difference measured in 3 different positions in the sides of the vehicle as in front, middle and rear. Mas mataas ang right side kesa left. I don't know if may nakapag report na ba sa inyo sa mga dealers nyo regarding dito at ano ang ginagawa nila to remedy this. Update us kung meron and I follow suit with my dealer as well.

    Kaya, for soon to be ford ranger owners, before taking your vehicle home, bring a steel tape and measure! hehehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JX290 View Post
    Nga pala, I remember na may nabasa ako dito tungkol sa tabingi ng tindig ng mga ranger natin. I confirm mine just today na ganun din. Matagal na rin kasi akong duda na parang hindi pantay, kaya kanina sinukat ko ang bawat gilid with steel tape habang nasa grahe ko. 3/4 inch ang difference measured in 3 different positions in the sides of the vehicle as in front, middle and rear. Mas mataas ang right side kesa left. I don't know if may nakapag report na ba sa inyo sa mga dealers nyo regarding dito at ano ang ginagawa nila to remedy this. Update us kung meron and I follow suit with my dealer as well.

    Kaya, for soon to be ford ranger owners, before taking your vehicle home, bring a steel tape and measure! hehehe.
    kadalasan ganyan mas mababa talaga driver side. huwag lang sana obvious. dati sa lancer, galant, navara ko mas mababa talaga driver side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kng200 View Post
    kadalasan ganyan mas mababa talaga driver side. huwag lang sana obvious. dati sa lancer, galant, navara ko mas mababa talaga driver side.
    parang balls din. lamang ang kaliwa. hehehe! :bouncealt:

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    Meron ba dpf at catalytic converter mga rangers natin?

2012 Ford Ranger