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June 3rd, 2011 04:30 PM #1[SIZE="4"]Elow Guyz...
I'm planning to buy a Ford Focus but I might just wait for the 2012 model. I have a couple of questions re the Focus' POWERSHIFT. Hope some of you guys can answer them.
1) I know it's better than the normal ATs'...pero ano yung advantages niya over the normal ATs'..?
2) May clutch lining at pressure plate ba ito?
3) May torque converter ba ito ng gaya sa normal ATs'?
4) Pag nag change ba ng ATF eh pag nagdrain eh drain ba lahat?
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June 3rd, 2011 04:42 PM #2
1. No torque converter to rob power at low rpms. Much, much, much faster shifts. Smoother operation. The "wet-clutch" isn't quite as fuel efficient as the dry-clutch variant, but it's more efficient than a regular AT.
2. You won't need to change them. The fully automated system means that the clutches will last a whole lot longer than a regular clutch.
3. Nope.
4. Have no idea about fluid change intervals. But DCTs don't use standard ATF.
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June 3rd, 2011 04:46 PM #3
Wala ding SHIFT SHOCK. Di mo mapapansin nag shift na yung car unless you look at the tachometer...
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June 3rd, 2011 05:15 PM #4Here's a comment on the Focus transmission from a Motor Trend comparison test of compact sedans. You may want to take this into account alongside early forum discussions about the smaller Fiesta's dual-clutch:
"Absent the extra stick, what would distract from a dual-clutch transmission dubbed "horrible" and "half-baked?"
"It's clunky at low speeds and rough when starting from a stop. To top it off, the shifts don't feel much faster than in any other auto in the group," noted Evans."
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June 4th, 2011 01:04 PM #5powershift is just a marketing term. bottom line dual clutch so mabilis ang shifting gears you dont feel the jerk/lag. but with the modern AT cars now like toyota dual vvti you also barely feel the shift too
also pag nag change ng ATF talagang dinedrain yan. i think usually every 50k
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June 4th, 2011 11:07 PM #6Elow Guys...Thanks very much sa mga sumagot...Pero still have some follow questions:
*Niky: Sabi mo na yung automated system will make it last a lot longer, so does it mean na mayron siyan clutch lining at pressure plate?
*Tidus: Mukhang may fiesta ka, tanong ko lang kung sa anong RPM ba usually nagshi-shift up yung DSC ng Ford? Pwede bang baguhin yung shifting
points nito?
...Ano ba ang may mas magandang transmission system, yung sa Focus or yung sa Tucson? Kasi di ba sa Tucson eh AT rin siya? Similar lang ba silang
dalawa?
At isa pang tanong, pag ginamit ba yung manual ng DSC ng Ford pag nag shift up ba eh kailangang bumitaw sa throttle?
Thanks guys in advance...
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June 4th, 2011 11:21 PM #7
Sa 1st gear it normally shifts at 2500RPM - 3000RPM. From 2nd all the way to 6th around 2000RPM is the shiftpoint. This is for typical city driving pedal pressure. Of course by stepping harder it will shift higher...
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June 4th, 2011 11:32 PM #8
Hi tidus, thanks for the prompt reply...Possible bang magshift-up siya around 1,500RPM kung mas magaan yung apak sa throttle? Ano kadalasan mong ginagawa pag tipong econo drive ka?
Uu nga pala, pag nagshift ka sa P kusa ba siyang umaandar gaya ng sa normal na AT? yung parang nagccrawl?
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June 4th, 2011 11:41 PM #9
Its very hard to make the FoFi shift that low kasi long geared ratio eh...
Pag econo drive ako accelerate moderately tapos as much as possible kung kaya gumamit ng momentum and let go of the gas pedal I do so... Anticipation na din of stops para let go of the gas tapos let the friction slow you down tapos the brakes when you get closer to finally stop the vehicle...
Yes just like an automatic when in D or L or R it will crawl...
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June 5th, 2011 02:03 PM #10
The US Focus is a gasoline model using the dry-clutch powershift. It's different from the wet-clutch system in the TDCi. If you're looking at a TDCi purchase, it's different. The TDCi is smoother from a stop than the dry-clutch Fiesta, because there's a lot of torque there and the ECU can juggle the throttle and clutch for a perfect start every time
And while the logic in shifting for the dry-clutch powershift may be hesitant, shifts are definitely smoother than with a traditional automatic.
Yes, you will not need to replace linings and pressure plates, because everything is automated. Automation makes the clutch last longer because the computer will not slip the clutch or "drop the clutch" at high revs like a human driver would.
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