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    Ok, paid for the farm yesterday, scaled down to just 5 hectares from the planned 10. Naunahan ako dun sa first prospect ko na 11nhectares e. Kukulitin ko na lang yung katabi to sell to me another 5 hectares. Kinaya naman ng sorento 4x2 yung farm roads when i did the occular last monday, dirt and gravel road with some portions that if it were a rainy day the 4x2 would have surely got stuck. So now i need a 4x4!

    question 1. Good buy pa ba ang 2002/03 ford explorer sport traq 4x4? 90,000 km mileage yung best na nakita ko online at P330k negotiable. 2002 models are priced at 310k negotiable. Distance from QC to farm is 145 km (nlex, sctex and tplex, part of magilas trail then approximately 15km of dirt road). Considering it will be a weekend car i don't really care much about fuel cost. Ang tanong e, from experience or hearsay, okay ba ang explorer on mud and moderate offroad? Di naman kaya labas-masuk ako sa repair shop for suspension repairs? I will not keep it for a long time, max 2-3 years pero syempre gusto ko may resale value pa din kahit konti. After 2 years kasi di ko na need ang pick up, i will sell this and add the value to the down for a new suv, probably a new everest if maganda yung bago.

    question 2: alam ko yung vitara proven na offroad. But how about the grand vitara 2.4 4x4? Meron kasi akong nakitang grand vitara2.4 for 280k.

    question 3: any other recommendations, max budget 350k including repairs if any. Basic requirements are 4x4, respectable off road capability (i will not go to pinatubo, just dirt roads that will definitely be muddy when it rains), crew cab or suv type, can carry 4-6 sacks of fertilizer.

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    Try to look for a 95-96 model hilux ln106. Kung maka swerte ka makakahanap ka ng 350k. Indestructible hilux ito and has good offroading capabilities.

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    a 2000-2002 model Ford Ranger will be more practical and has better off road credentials than the Sport Trac.

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    So kung ok yung 95-96 hilux how about the 2000-2001 hilux surf? Yung 3.0 turbo diesel version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    So kung ok yung 95-96 hilux how about the 2000-2001 hilux surf? Yung 3.0 turbo diesel version?
    Grabe ang mahal ng mga Hilux even for those year models you've mentioned. ung iba abot 600k. Bihira ung bumababa ng 400k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiRbossR View Post
    a 2000-2002 model Ford Ranger will be more practical and has better off road credentials than the Sport Trac.
    yup this is also on my watch list, kaso wala ako makita. Even the everest sana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    yup this is also on my watch list, kaso wala ako makita. Even the everest sana.
    Hirap nga makahanap. All i see are 4x2 Trekkers. There are 4x4s but abbove your budget already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    So kung ok yung 95-96 hilux how about the 2000-2001 hilux surf? Yung 3.0 turbo diesel version?
    converted ang hilux surf e. and it uses independent front suspension.

    Quote Originally Posted by SiRbossR View Post
    Grabe ang mahal ng mga Hilux even for those year models you've mentioned. ung iba abot 600k. Bihira ung bumababa ng 400k.
    bloated na ang resale ng LN106 and LN166. parang Land Cruiser 80 series na after maipalabas yung indestructible hilux ng Top Gear UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    Ok, paid for the farm yesterday, scaled down to just 5 hectares from the planned 10. Naunahan ako dun sa first prospect ko na 11nhectares e. Kukulitin ko na lang yung katabi to sell to me another 5 hectares. Kinaya naman ng sorento 4x2 yung farm roads when i did the occular last monday, dirt and gravel road with some portions that if it were a rainy day the 4x2 would have surely got stuck. So now i need a 4x4!

    question 1. Good buy pa ba ang 2002/03 ford explorer sport traq 4x4? 90,000 km mileage yung best na nakita ko online at P330k negotiable. 2002 models are priced at 310k negotiable. Distance from QC to farm is 145 km (nlex, sctex and tplex, part of magilas trail then approximately 15km of dirt road). Considering it will be a weekend car i don't really care much about fuel cost. Ang tanong e, from experience or hearsay, okay ba ang explorer on mud and moderate offroad? Di naman kaya labas-masuk ako sa repair shop for suspension repairs? I will not keep it for a long time, max 2-3 years pero syempre gusto ko may resale value pa din kahit konti. After 2 years kasi di ko na need ang pick up, i will sell this and add the value to the down for a new suv, probably a new everest if maganda yung bago.

    question 2: alam ko yung vitara proven na offroad. But how about the grand vitara 2.4 4x4? Meron kasi akong nakitang grand vitara2.4 for 280k.

    question 3: any other recommendations, max budget 350k including repairs if any. Basic requirements are 4x4, respectable off road capability (i will not go to pinatubo, just dirt roads that will definitely be muddy when it rains), crew cab or suv type, can carry 4-6 sacks of fertilizer.
    Sportac, loklok sa gas pero sarap ihataw.

    4-6 sacks of fertilizers? thats definitely a job for a pickup.

    At your budget you can get 90's pickup any brand. Basic 4x4, rear leaf springs, open differential, diesel non-commonrail. Since you mentioned that you will be constantly visiting the farm, then better maintain the truck for future farm duties. You will need the pickup bed more than the seats of an SUV.

    I am maintaining a farm but it did not require me a 4x4. it has road arteries paved with gravel so no worries of being stucked in rut. I have loaded almost everything.. livestocks, copra, palay, fruit extracts, machineries, sacks n sacks of fertilizers up to one tonne and no problems.

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    Nissan terrano? Or better frontier?

    May supposedly local units of surf and terrano sa sulit e. Yung plate numbers naman nila ay C, W, X or U, not the surplus R and B. I am leaning more on these 2 now kasi i am thinking na in case i need to spend the night i can always lay a sleeping bag or mat at the back. Aalisin ko yung back seat if they are not fold and tumble type. Di kasi ako magpapatayo ng house sa farm, just a nipa hut with a toilet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    Nissan terrano? Or better frontier?

    May supposedly local units of surf and terrano sa sulit e. Yung plate numbers naman nila ay C, W, X or U, not the surplus R and B. I am leaning more on these 2 now kasi i am thinking na in case i need to spend the night i can always lay a sleeping bag or mat at the back. Aalisin ko yung back seat if they are not fold and tumble type. Di kasi ako magpapatayo ng house sa farm, just a nipa hut with a toilet.
    Isuzu Fuego sir wala magkasya sa budget? But okay na okay nga 95-97 hilux. Sulit yan.

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    I take the Frontier. TD27 and QD32 are both timing gears so you almost dont have to worry with the engine, plus D22 i guess is still in production so no probs with parts..

    I suggest put up a semi-concrete house something you could put a temporary roof and awning. Nipa huts are good only for 2-3yrs depending pa how infested with termites the area. Or if you enjoy camping, the pickup bed is a perfect spot.

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    My friend uses a Frontier 4x4 for his ponds in Bulacan and Pangasinan. He's happy with it. Ranger and Dmax of course are good choices just as well. Sa speed though, mabibitin ka sa Frontier kung sanay ka na sa CRDi intercooler turbo diesels.

    As for the Sport Trac. Okay siya sana pang weekend toy but reliability at this age becomes suspect already. Our family has a 1998 Ford Exped with 150,000kms on the odo and from time to time, nasisira na din in spite of regular maintenance. It doesn't leave us stranded but i don't have peace of mind if i were to drive it out on long drives the way i do with our LC, Hiace or my Altis (travel at night, go on back roads, etc.).

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    If you are willing to pay for gas I would recommend getting an 98-02 F150
    Its a proper truck
    It will have more parts because it shares many parts with the expedition
    You can get one for under 400k
    Parts prices are comparable to an accord
    and it glides on the highway

    Something like this
    1998 Ford F150 For Sale - Secondhand For Sale Philippines - 34536664

    I have an 02 expedition with 140k and its reliability has been top notch, admitedly more expensive to maintain than the average jap car

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    I've looked at the f150 last october, unfortunately it will not fit in my parking space.

    Kanina i saw a terrano so i pointed it out to my wife. Sabi nya, "E kung bumili ka na lang ng bago, ganun o!", pointing to a new blue ford ranger wildtrak! Wooooh!!!
    Sabi ko, "mahal e, more than 1.5M." Sagot nya, "tapos naman na yung starex saka yung isang house natin, kaya mo naman ang brand new." I am being tempted!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    Nissan terrano? Or better frontier?
    I had 2 Nissan Frontiers before. All of which are 4x4's. And one thing I can say about the engine and 4x4 system is that it is a big piece of crap. They are the worst 4x4's I've ever come across.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiRbossR View Post
    I had 2 Nissan Frontiers before. All of which are 4x4's. And one thing I can say about the engine and 4x4 system is that it is a big piece of crap. They are the worst 4x4's I've ever come across.
    Sir anong naging problema nung 4x4 nyo? Curious lang. Tnx!

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    Quote Originally Posted by remzam View Post
    Sir anong naging problema nung 4x4 nyo? Curious lang. Tnx!

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    Nothing wrong with it really. Had no mechanical failures. It's just isn't what you expect from a pickup truck It under performs in all aspects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syuryuken View Post
    brandnew na yan fafa yebo samantalahin na baka magbago pang isip
    E kaso i would rather wait for the new everest. Kaya 2nd hand hanap ko ibenta ko din paglabas ng new eve. My wife actually told me yesterday i can even get a LC but on the condition we sell the GS. Ayaw ko naman at very practical ang GS.

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    Overkill naman LC. Better to have two reliable daily drivers than one big, expensive car that will leave you carless every time you bring it in for PMS.

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    Eve, puwede... Alterra...? For a farm truck, can't go wrong with a secondhand D-Max... at least, in my experience, if you settle for a manual, it's got one of the easier ones to use (lighter clutch, less clunky gearshift than the others). If you're getting an auto... BT50 3.0 is available in 2WD if you like your work truck to be... fun.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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