Trinoma High-End Restos Exodus?

[Monseratto]

I noticed around four restaurants have abandoned Trinoma in a span of six-months. First to leave was Madison Grill. Then the Japanese Restaurant Haiku. And just lately Bubba Gump and Ruby Tuesday. Ruby Tuesday didn't even survive a year. Sign of the times or just the wrong location/market?

[ghosthunter]

Wrong market more than anything. People who would be inclined to go to such expensive restaurants would be heading to places like Boni High Street and Serendra.

Trinoma would suite mid-range to fastfood restaurants better.

[Gen. Miting]

Wrong market more than anything. People who would be inclined to go to such expensive restaurants would be heading to places like Boni High Street and Serendra.

Trinoma would suite mid-range to fastfood restaurants better.

there is mentality that I can't explain among pinoys. nag-study kasi ako ng ganito.

let's take for example, the MRT malls like Edsa Central, Farmers Plaza and Gateway and Robinson's Pioneer and even Glorietta

everyday, people going to and from work pass by the area kasi nga commute sila pag workday kasi tipid. and so they pass by the same shops, same restaurants. everyday they pass by they dream of the weekend getaway where they will eat in a nice resto or buy the gadget that they're dreaming on.

these restos and gadgets are available/accessible daily kasi nga araw sila nag-MRT>

but guess what, people would rather buy it on a more upscale mall if same uniform price lang naman everywhere.

on the weekend people from QC will buy or eat at SM Moa or Serendra/Highstreet. people from Makati will go to Trinoma.

kung bibili ka ng cellphone, it adds more value even it's the same price all over Metro kung bibilhin mo sa high-end malls.

and with the financial crisis here, tingin ko talaga maraming mag-fold na malls ngaun taon na 'to. and even SM is not immune.

[ghosthunter]

there is mentality that I can't explain among pinoys. nag-study kasi ako ng ganito.

And that is where you had your mistake. YOU made a study. That in itself is already a big flaw.

but guess what, people would rather buy it on a more upscale mall if same uniform price lang naman everywhere.

No, they don't buy from upscale stores. They just like visiting upscale stores. Most potential buyers are waiting when these shops give out their usual season sales. Just ask your wife... she would concur.

on the weekend people from QC will buy or eat at SM Moa or Serendra/Highstreet. people from Makati will go to Trinoma.

On weekends, people just want to go to somewhere different and away from the places they go to during the rest of the week.

kung bibili ka ng cellphone, it adds more value even it's the same price all over Metro kung bibilhin mo sa high-end malls.

Not really of the same price. People can buy the same item from the bargain areas or from actual shops. Some people prefer buying from actual shops even if it costs them slightly more because they get that feeling of value and quality. Also the feeling of assurance that incase the product is defective, it can be fix/replaced within the warranty period.

and with the financial crisis here, tingin ko talaga maraming mag-fold na malls ngaun taon na 'to. and even SM is not immune.

Wrong. Frankly the major malls themselves will survive. It is the shops within the malls that will cycle in and out of the mall. In high traffic malls, there is usually a waiting list of shops who want to open a branch inside particular malls. So when one shops closes, it is quickly replaced by another. As long as there are people and businesses who are willing to open a shop within a mall, SM and similar malls will continue functioning.

Consider a mall as a real estate development where the value of the land has been multiplied a number of times over by the establishment of the mall itself and it's anchor stores (usually supermarket, dept store, DIY store).

[Gen. Miting]

Wrong. Frankly the major malls themselves will survive. It is the shops within the malls that will cycle in and out of the mall. In high traffic malls, there is usually a waiting list of shops who want to open a branch inside particular malls. So when one shops closes, it is quickly replaced by another. As long as there are people and businesses who are willing to open a shop within a mall, SM and similar malls will continue functioning.

the waiting list is an illusion created by the mall admins to imply that there is high demand. it's the same as sold out units in high rise condos pero pag tinignan mo bldg, wala naman ilaw sa gabi kahit RFO na.

case in point: the new SM Annex, as early as December nagpunta ako dyan. ngaun March na all the stores non-cyberzone, hanggang ngaun hindi pa maka-renovate. why? walang pondo.

2nd case in point: the new Eastwood City Mall. November pa yan pero up to now, wala pa din ang upscale restos. gapang talaga. malalaos na nga yun vector art type of ads ng eastwood eh, hindi pa din malalaman ng tao na may eastwood mall na pala

Consider a mall as a real estate development where the value of the land has been multiplied a number of times over by the establishment of the mall itself and it's anchor stores (usually supermarket, dept store, DIY store).

hindi na ngaun. ang mas ok ngaun yun mga gasolinahan na tinatayuan ng mini-malls like yun sa La Vista sa mga makati gasoline stations. one major reason why andami patrons nito even from the upper income group, libre parking and very convenient to roam around. pag parada mo yun na. same service, saves time.

*ghost baka kasi na-observe mo lang yun dami ng tao sa malls everytime you go there. ang obserbahan mo ay ganito, i-sampling point mo yun tao na dumadaan kung parating may dalang shopping bag. 1 out of 50 siguro

most of the time nakikidaan lang yun or nakiki-aircon. kaya nga si SM nag-convert sa water less urinal, kung papatubigan nya lahat ng CR nya sa hundreds of thousands na nakikiraan lang ang day at nakiki-CR, sigurado sa tubig pa lang, malaki na awas ng kinikita nya dyan

[ghosthunter]

the waiting list is an illusion created by the mall admins to imply that there is high demand. it's the same as sold out units in high rise condos pero pag tinignan mo bldg, wala naman ilaw sa gabi kahit RFO na.

case in point: the new SM Annex, as early as December nagpunta ako dyan. ngaun March na all the stores non-cyberzone, hanggang ngaun hindi pa maka-renovate. why? walang pondo.

And how would you know it?... you working for the property management department of one of the major mall chains? All I can see from you is just your guesses about it. And from your past posts, your guesses are worst than simply flipping a coin.

If tenants currently have no funds to renovate a new shop space, it's just temporary because recently money has suddenly become hard to come by. Just like the price difference of gasoline vs LPG, a sudden down-trend of gasoline doesn't mean "na lugi na" for those who converted their cars to LPG. There are still savings, its just at a smaller percentage.

2nd case in point: the new Eastwood City Mall. November pa yan pero up to now, wala pa din ang upscale restos. gapang talaga. malalaos na nga yun vector art type of ads ng eastwood eh, hindi pa din malalaman ng tao na may eastwood mall na pala

Personally I don't consider Eastwood Mall as a "major" mall chain. The commercial areas were really meant to serve it's enclosed community than generate shopper traffic.

hindi na ngaun. ang mas ok ngaun yun mga gasolinahan na tinatayuan ng mini-malls like yun sa La Vista sa mga makati gasoline stations. one major reason why andami patrons nito even from the upper income group, libre parking and very convenient to roam around. pag parada mo yun na. same
service, saves time.

Yet for each of those mini-malls that have become a success, there are two or three of the same which are simply barren of good shops and customers because the single anchor store/restaurant have closed or moved.

*ghost baka kasi na-observe mo lang yun dami ng tao sa malls everytime you go there. ang obserbahan mo ay ganito, i-sampling point mo yun tao na dumadaan kung parating may dalang shopping bag. 1 out of 50 siguro

Yet you do not consider those people without shopping bags might be doing other business other than purchasing tangible products? Example, restaurants, parlors, cinemas etc. Simply doing a counting shopping bags as an indicator is not accurate of the financial transactions taking place in a small.

most of the time nakikidaan lang yun or nakiki-aircon. kaya nga si SM nag-convert sa water less urinal, kung papatubigan nya lahat ng CR nya sa hundreds of thousands na nakikiraan lang ang day at nakiki-CR, sigurado sa tubig pa lang, malaki na awas ng kinikita nya dyan

Waterless urinals really do save a lot of money. A toilet easily can go through over P50,000 worth of water every month. Even if you are raking in all the money in the world, it doesn't mean you can waste the money. If a single mall have 10 toilets, the savings would be equal to P500,000 a month and would equate to P6,000,000 a year. If I was the owner of the mall, I would have done the same thing. The saved money can be re-invested into other money making projects.

Like the saying, every peso saved is like a peso earned.

[tidus1203]

Well for Ruby Tuesday's case its just bad business... Ang mahal sobra, while the burgers are good they still don't justify the price... Sayang yung Haiku. Ang Japanese resto na lang sa Trinoma yung Oki-Oki (nasa ground level) and Teriyaki Boy both more casual...

[Memphis Raines]

Is T.G.I.F still there?
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[CVT]

I think that there are just too many restaurants at Trinoma.....

7606:mobile1:

[Isuzoom]

Greenhills forever!

[boybi]

Ang Trinoma naman kasi same crowd ng mga SM malls.

[tidus1203]

I think that there are just too many restaurants at Trinoma.....

7606:mobile1:

Isa pa yang problema... Madaming resto sa Trinoma...

I think Trinoma has a diverse crowd naman. In fact they are easy to segregate. Yung masa nasa ground floor and 2nd floor. Mga mayayaman madalas nasa 3rd and 4th floors... Pansin nyo pati mga restos sa 1st and 2nd floors mas pang masa compared sa restos on the 3rd and 4th floor...

*Memphis

Yes nandyan pa TGIF sa Trinoma along with their sister restaurants like Itallianis and Fish and Co.

[s_quilicot]

Is T.G.I.F still there?
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yes, katabi ng Red Box and near timezone sa uppermost level.

[OldSchoolHack]

Strange but I find Trinoma very much designed to cater to jologs. Just go there and check the center areas puno ito ng jologs. But I have no problem with that. Poor din kasi ako. Better to be a poor common man than to be a social climbing idiot. Besides the really rich eat elsewhere not in malls.

But look at Trinoma itself and you would notice the mall itself is ugly. From floor to ceiling it looks cheap.

[badkuk]

Strange but I find Trinoma very much designed to cater to jologs. Just go there and check the center areas puno ito ng jologs. But I have no problem with that. Poor din kasi ako. Better to be a poor common man than to be a social climbing idiot. Besides the really rich eat elsewhere not in malls.

But look at Trinoma itself and you would notice the mall itself is ugly. From floor to ceiling it looks cheap.

hmm...jologs? kaso madaming mga high end stores/brands dun.

dunno about looking jologs/cheap, but i do find the layout a bit confusing...ung tipong madali kang maliligaw if you've just visited the place. di gaya ng sm malls that are basically just one big rectangular block.

And for some reason the ceilings are low compared to other ayala malls.