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    Seeking property share from parents who are still alive pointless
    September 2, 2014 9:52 pm
    by Persida Acosta

    Dear PAO,

    I have three children. Two of them are staying abroad and my youngest son is living in the Philippines. My husband and I have always supported our youngest child who remains dependent on us. We, however, have stopped giving him support because he has been using his money for his vices. When he demanded from us his share in our property and we refused his demand, he threatened that he is going to file a case against us. Can our youngest son demand his share even if my husband and I are still alive? Can he still demand support from us?


    Vilma

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    Dear Vilma,

    One of the modes of transfer of ownership is succession. Under Article 774 of the Civil Code “succession is a mode of acquisition by virtue of which the obligations to the extent of the value of the inheritance of a person are transmitted through his death to another or others either by will or by operation of law.” Successional rights are only transmitted from the moment of death of the decedent. Thus, this is the mode of transfer of ownership of pieces of property of parents to their children upon the former’s death. As such, before their death, the parents can dispose of their pieces of property at will and without asking permission from their children. Since the right of children to their parent’s pieces of property is merely inchoate, a case that your youngest son may file against you and your husband to demand his share in your property will not prosper.

    As to support for your youngest son, Article 194 of the Family Code provides that “support comprises everything indispensable for sustenance, dwelling, clothing, medical attendance, education and transportation, in keeping with the financial capacity of the family. The education of the person entitled to be supported referred to in the preceding paragraph shall include expenses in going to and from place of work.” Thus, your youngest son is only entitled to demand for support if the same is in connection with his schooling or training for some profession, trade or vocation pursuant to Article 194 of the Family Code. Again, if the support is not based on the foregoing, a complaint for support would also not prosper.

    We hope that we have answered your query. Our legal opinion may vary if other facts are stated or elaborated.
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    parang the prodigal son, clearly his decisions are influenced by his vices, kung ako yan ako mag kakaso sa kanya at papakulong ko yan, kahit gano pa kasakit dapat gawin ang tama...

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    Bunso na kup*l.......

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    Kakaiba! Binuhay ka na, bibigyan pa sustento, tapos abuso sa mana.

    May salitik sa utak yung bata.

    Kung ako parents niyan, sell off all properties and give it to the 2 other children.

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    Adik siguro kaya ganyan magisip.

    I watched a docu on tv where the 2 sons had the parenta killed for inheritance. It's a sick world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Adik siguro kaya ganyan magisip.

    I watched a docu on tv where the 2 sons had the parenta killed for inheritance. It's a sick world.

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    naah it happens.
    eto ang nangyayari ngayon sa family ng wife ko.
    their eldest son (bro-in-law) really wants to sell their 480 sq. meter property in QC even though my mom-in-law is still alive and paghati-hatian na raw nila yung proceeds.

    pero di adik yung bro-in-law ko..... medyo mukha lang salapi.
    maganda naman ang trabaho.... may lot naman sa Sta. Rosa, Laguna.
    greed ang bottomline.

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    sometimes greed and inggit.. ganyan nangyayari sa magkakapatid..

    kaya minsan maganda din na buhay pa magulang hati hatiin na.. para wala na angal ang mga magkakapatid.. pag patay na kasi parents... dyan nagkakagulo..

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Qwerty_ View Post
    sometimes greed and inggit.. ganyan nangyayari sa magkakapatid..

    kaya minsan maganda din na buhay pa magulang hati hatiin na.. para wala na angal ang mga magkakapatid.. pag patay na kasi parents... dyan nagkakagulo..
    Naku yan lagi sinasabi ko sa nanay ko. Ayusin na lahat ng lupa niya kasi silang magkakapatid parang verbal pa lang amb agreement. Tapos wala djn kaming idea kung anu ano ang meron siya.

    Ni-try niya ibenta yung isa. Ni consult pa kami pero sabi ko kahit anu gawin niya dun sa lupa niya ok lang kasi kanya yun.

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    Yep, maraming family na ganyan.

    In my case, sa paternal side of my wife's family, puro real estate squabbles. Buti nalang yung in-laws ko had a will.

    Money changes everything.

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    Buti nalang kaming magkapatid, walang pinagawayan.... wala kasing naiwan para ipamana. May utang pa.

    Whether you're loaded or not, it's always best to have a will. Although kahit may last will and testament, may mga umaalma pa rin (as in the case of the Madrigals).

    And no, the douche kid has no right to ask for his share of inheritances. Dapat lalong hindi siya bigyan ng mana nyan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    Buti nalang kaming magkapatid, walang pinagawayan.... wala kasing naiwan para ipamana. May utang pa.

    Whether you're loaded or not, it's always best to have a will. Although kahit may last will and testament, may mga umaalma pa rin (as in the case of the Madrigals).

    And no, the douche kid has no right to ask for his share of inheritances. Dapat lalong hindi siya bigyan ng mana nyan.
    That's true. My friend's Uncle was taken off the will for getting a starlet pregnant. When the matriarch died he contested the will. Umabot na sa court

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    may kilala din akong ganyan buhay pa ang parents pinag-aawayan na ang mga ari-arian kaya ginawa ni parents hinati-hati na after ilang months parang taong grasa na yung isa nabenta lahat yung manang bukid pati yung 2 doors na apartment sa kasusugal wala pa silang trabahong mag-asawa.

    yung dapat mana naming magkakapatid na lalaki (bahay at lupa) ibinigay lahat namin sa kapatid naming babae rason naman namin wala siyang titirhan pagtanda niya.
    Last edited by Syuryuken; September 3rd, 2014 at 04:34 PM.

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    I think it's a standard na bigay talaga house sa girl na anak.

    Well ganon samin. Reason is mas dehado girl kung sakali may saltik maging asawa.

    Boys should be able to provide for his future or present family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [archie] View Post
    I think it's a standard na bigay talaga house sa girl na anak.

    Well ganon samin. Reason is mas dehado girl kung sakali may saltik maging asawa.

    Boys should be able to provide for his future or present family.
    The ethnic chinese, being patriarchal customary gives the house and other real estate properties to their sons only. The sons should be given a head start and be able to provide to his family while the daughter gets nothing since the husband should provide for his wife and children

    Regarding the topic, i have a close friend a scion of a retail Tsinoy tycoon whose real estate properties where distributed equally to sons and daughter a few months before the mother succumbed to cancer. Nothing was left in the dad's name. Reason: the mother feared that the father would squander everything so she took the risk of dividing everything to their children. Yung tatay naman ngayon yung minsan humihingi ng pera sa mga anak hehehe....

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    It also varies between situations in each family, the age and mentality of the children. I know of a family patriarch who distributed his wealth before he passed away but mainly because his children were already grown up and generally successful, and he knew he and his wife would be cared for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    It also varies between situations in each family, the age and mentality of the children. I know of a family patriarch who distributed his wealth before he passed away but mainly because his children were already grown up and generally successful, and he knew he and his wife would be cared for.
    That is good for them, bro.

    But from an outsider's point of view,- that is bordering on the dangerous ...



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    ^^^ That really depends on how well you really know your children and if they were brought up with the correct and proper values.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    It also varies between situations in each family, the age and mentality of the children. I know of a family patriarch who distributed his wealth before he passed away but mainly because his children were already grown up and generally successful, and he knew he and his wife would be cared for.
    This is what the Dad of ex SO did. Some time in his mid or late 80s, all the assets were distributed EXCEPT for the family home which he refused to sell. I suppose it wasn't given to just one child since the value is much higher than the rest of the assets. There was also some cash in the bank left (majority was already divided) and personal effects (watches), considering na those were the only assets left, pinag awayan pa.

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    when dad passed away,
    he was legally property-less.
    nai-pamana na lahat samin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syuryuken View Post

    yung dapat mana naming magkakapatid na lalaki (bahay at lupa) ibinigay lahat namin sa kapatid naming babae rason naman namin wala siyang titirhan pagtanda niya.
    Same here syur, sa kapatid kong babae lahat. Ako nagpatayo ng bahay ng parents ko sa quezon city pero sinabi ko na sa lahat na sa sister ko yun, pati na yung lot at farm land sa province.

    In answer to the ts, NO, walang rights mag demand ang child from the parents, patay man o buhay. Pwede pa nga hindi ma-include sa hatian kung may will. In fact pwedeng ibigay ng parents lahat to charity or whoever they want to other than their children. Children should never expect to inherit anything from their parents.

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