How to "deprogram" my cousin

[badkuk]

hi peeps, need some suggestions.

i hope that for anyone that doesn't agree with what i'm trying to do would be polite enough to reserve judgement; the Good Book did say, judge not, lest you be judged.

i found out that a cousin of mine is in the process of, or (hopefully not) already in a "christian fellowship" -- note that i added the double quotes since, from what my aunts and uncles have described it to me, sounds like, smells like, and seems like a cult.


Don't get wrong, i don't think it's a doomsday/*** orgy cult, but the way he talks and reasons to us set off a lot of bells in head.


i've heard a few stories where a son or a daughter just "disappeared" and went into these fellowships/cults. Now, if my cousin was an adult, i would just leave him be; he's a college sophomore, and i feel it's an age where kids can still be brainwashed. Which i think is what is happening(or has happened) now.


i know that ultimately, the decision lies with him on which path in life to choose...but i suspect there is some other influence in play. i'm consider myself a Catholic, and i believe people have a choice to their faith...i but also believe that that choice should be a personal one, not just because someone in a fancy suit told you so.

So...how do i go about it? Obviously the out-in-the-open tongue-lashing from my aunts and uncles didn't work...what else can i try?
Thanks

[ab_initio]

Check on to this "Christian fellowship" by visiting their pastor. Check where do they hold their fellowship. If you think that they are really doing some fellowship, hayaan mo siya. It's just a phase. Basta ba di lang ibenta property nya para ibigay sa fellowship, i think he is ok. Tongue lashing...mas lalo lang siyang mapapalayo sa inyo.

[Quint]

Best to ask him about what he is doing. Be genuinely interested in what he is doing. Accompany him if you have to. This way, you really know what he is getting into. Best way to judge is to observe what kind of fruit is coming out of his newfound fellowship. Is it good? Or is it bad? If its good, and he turns out to a better person than before, then why stop him?

[CVT]

Be with him and talk with him.

You might discover the reason why he is doing just that. If it makes real sense to you then, accompany him to his fellowship and assess how good it is for his well-being.

If not, then attempt to talk him out of it, all the time, protecting your bond as cousins.... Maybe, "It's just a stage he's going through,- I think he's just restless for something new...."...

12K:boom:

[oliver1013]

Samahan mo para ikaw mismo makita mo kung ano nga, kung yung christian fellowship niya e tipong victory o greenhills christian felowship e ok naman yung mga yun. Pero kung yung pastor e may mahabang balbas at nakaputing daster na may hawak na tungkod e yari nga.

[shadow]

knock him hard in the head.

[donbuggy]

Pero kung yung pastor e may mahabang balbas at nakaputing daster na may hawak na tungkod e yari nga.

Good advice! :bwahaha:

[chua_riwap]

Pero kung yung pastor e may mahabang balbas at nakaputing daster na may hawak na tungkod e yari nga.

or with this guy..........

[xoom]

"It's just a stage he's going through,- I think he's just restless for something new...."...

12K:boom:

Rick Springfield, ikaw ba yan?

just tell your cousin, "Don't talk to strangers"

[uls]

hi peeps, need some suggestions.

i hope that for anyone that doesn't agree with what i'm trying to do would be polite enough to reserve judgement; the Good Book did say, judge not, lest you be judged.

i found out that a cousin of mine is in the process of, or (hopefully not) already in a "christian fellowship" -- note that i added the double quotes since, from what my aunts and uncles have described it to me, sounds like, smells like, and seems like a cult.


Don't get wrong, i don't think it's a doomsday/*** orgy cult, but the way he talks and reasons to us set off a lot of bells in head.


i've heard a few stories where a son or a daughter just "disappeared" and went into these fellowships/cults. Now, if my cousin was an adult, i would just leave him be; he's a college sophomore, and i feel it's an age where kids can still be brainwashed. Which i think is what is happening(or has happened) now.


i know that ultimately, the decision lies with him on which path in life to choose...but i suspect there is some other influence in play. i'm consider myself a Catholic, and i believe people have a choice to their faith...i but also believe that that choice should be a personal one, not just because someone in a fancy suit told you so.

So...how do i go about it? Obviously the out-in-the-open tongue-lashing from my aunts and uncles didn't work...what else can i try?
Thanks

doomsday cult ba yan?

does your cousin talk about "the end" or "second coming" a lot?

does your cousin talk about UFOs?

is it a cult where the leader has *** with all the young female members?

is it a cult where your cousin is told leave his/her home and live in the cult's compound?

if the "fellowship" is taking far too much of your cousin's time and having too much influence sa life niya, di na tama yan

look for signs if the cult is similar to Jim Jones' The People's Temple, David Koresh's Branch Davidians, Heaven's Gate

[CoDer]

hi peeps, need some suggestions.

i hope that for anyone that doesn't agree with what i'm trying to do would be polite enough to reserve judgement; the Good Book did say, judge not, lest you be judged.

i found out that a cousin of mine is in the process of, or (hopefully not) already in a "christian fellowship" -- note that i added the double quotes since, from what my aunts and uncles have described it to me, sounds like, smells like, and seems like a cult.


Don't get wrong, i don't think it's a doomsday/*** orgy cult, but the way he talks and reasons to us set off a lot of bells in head.


i've heard a few stories where a son or a daughter just "disappeared" and went into these fellowships/cults. Now, if my cousin was an adult, i would just leave him be; he's a college sophomore, and i feel it's an age where kids can still be brainwashed. Which i think is what is happening(or has happened) now.


i know that ultimately, the decision lies with him on which path in life to choose...but i suspect there is some other influence in play. i'm consider myself a Catholic, and i believe people have a choice to their faith...i but also believe that that choice should be a personal one, not just because someone in a fancy suit told you so.

So...how do i go about it? Obviously the out-in-the-open tongue-lashing from my aunts and uncles didn't work...what else can i try?
Thanks

Christian Fellowship in its true form is not a cult. A cult is a cult period.

Ano ba ang pangalan ng grupong yan?

[badkuk]

thanks to all that replied.

it's some "fellowship" called CMG; none of my relatives seem to know much more aside from that. So far wala pa naman nakikitang major red flags. Ung pinsan ko kasing yan, isn't really the type na madaling mauto; maldito yan, and he's not the follow-the-herd-to-the-butchershop kind of guy.

Since joining, he's stopped drinking(no binging, just casual experimenting), playing cards(me sa-demonyo daw yun; pati poker hindi pwede), even going out at nights. We should be happy about that, but there's just something very unnatural about that when you know ung dati niyang ugali. He also tends to include the phrase "sabi sa Bible", bawal ito, bawal yan. In one heated argument me sinabi pa siya na "kung alam niyo lang yung nakasulat sa Bible) -- which just goes to show how little he knows about my uncle's and aunt's faith.

That sort of self-righteous b.s. just doesn't sit well with me; ewan ko lang if it's brought about by "brainswashing", or just plain naivety.

There was also one time when the "fellowship" asked for donations, e binigay ng uncle ko is 200 pesos...me minimum daw na 500 pesos donation. Son of a b....

[robot.sonic]

There was also one time when the "fellowship" asked for donations, e binigay ng uncle ko is 200 pesos...me minimum daw na 500 pesos donation. Son of a b....

sabihan mo na wala na sa bible yan.

[uls]

diba 10% ng income sabi sa Bible (tama ba?)

kaya tawag nila ika-pu

[cast_no_shadow]

diba 10% ng income sabi sa Bible (tama ba?)

kaya tawag nila ika-pu

sabe ni eli soriano hindi na daw dapat magbigay ng ikapu?..
my colleague is a christian, she religiously follows that 10% from every compensation na nakukuha niya.. one time nagbigay ng 6 digit bonus sa office she really gave the 10% i asked her wala bang corruption sa church niyo? its very tempting sa mga leaders pag ganun kalaki ang perang pumapasok sa simbahan..

she just said God is watching us..

[CoDer]

thanks to all that replied.

it's some "fellowship" called CMG; none of my relatives seem to know much more aside from that. So far wala pa naman nakikitang major red flags. Ung pinsan ko kasing yan, isn't really the type na madaling mauto; maldito yan, and he's not the follow-the-herd-to-the-butchershop kind of guy.

Since joining, he's stopped drinking(no binging, just casual experimenting), playing cards(me sa-demonyo daw yun; pati poker hindi pwede), even going out at nights. We should be happy about that, but there's just something very unnatural about that when you know ung dati niyang ugali. He also tends to include the phrase "sabi sa Bible", bawal ito, bawal yan. In one heated argument me sinabi pa siya na "kung alam niyo lang yung nakasulat sa Bible) -- which just goes to show how little he knows about my uncle's and aunt's faith.

That sort of self-righteous b.s. just doesn't sit well with me; ewan ko lang if it's brought about by "brainswashing", or just plain naivety.

There was also one time when the "fellowship" asked for donations, e binigay ng uncle ko is 200 pesos...me minimum daw na 500 pesos donation. Son of a b....

I don't see any reason to "deprogram" your cousin. It turns out na maganda ang nangyayari sa kanya ngayon. Bagong convert nga lang kaya mainit-init pa.

I assure you my wife is getting the same treatment from her catholic relatives after she got born again.

Though that minimum donation is something that worries me. In the circle we call it Love Gift, meaning kahit magkano as long as bukal sa loob. Lipat na lang sana sya ng ibang Evangelical Christian Group.