anung engine pwede ipalit sa Z20 ng vanette?

[ravelcop]

guys, i'm thinking of replacing the engine of my vanette (if possible). gusto ko kase yung matipid sa fuel ang more power. i'm thinking of replacing it with a diesel engine although i dont have any idea about replacing engines

tanong ko lang po, what engines are good candidates as replacement? what are the pros and cons when you have your engine replaced? anu pang mga parts ang kelangan palitan din pag nagpalit ka ng engine? and mga magkano kaya estimate cost ng parts ang labor?

hope i could get feedback from you guys, talagang wala kong kaalam-alam sa ganyang bagay kase. alam ko lang is, mahal ko yung van ko, pero mahal na din ang gas

[niky]

pros? More power and or/lower fuel consumption... depends on the engine.

cons? packaging headaches, wiring issues, fuel system modifications, reliability issues, parts availability issues, etcetera... as well as the roll of the dice on whether you're getting a "fit" surplus engine or not.

While turbo diesel engines are available for the Vanette, I don't know how much the swap will cost you, and how extensive modifications should be to fit the engine. Your plumbing will have to be modified, for one. I don't know if the Vanette uses the in-tank fuel pick-up or the engine-bay one... if it's in-tank, you might have to get a new tank, also. I'm thinking 50-60k for the swap (if you can find the engine... prices tend to be high if they're turbo) plus 10-20k for contingencies.

Turbodiesel should give you 2-3 km/l more than the gas version. You'll have to calculate for yourself (based on your current driving habits... how many kilometers per month/year) whether it'll save you any money or not in the long run.

If you want power... well, I think an SR20 will fit...

[ravelcop]

thanks for the reply

medyo malaki nga pala talaga gagastusin, pero im still interested. may nakapagsabi sakin na meron daw sya nakitang binibentang Vanette na Nissan Frontier yung engine. Yung SR20 po, engine ng anung sasakyan yun?

[niky]

Hehe... di ako seryoso sa SR20. 2.0 Gas siya na EFI, so it should use less gas in traffic, but about the same on the highway. Longitudinal mount na SR20s galing 200SX or Silvia. It can be done (I've seen it swapped into old cars and owner types) but only by a good swap mechanic and electrician.

Maraming binebenta dito, pero galing Altima, so transverse mount (sideways) at di puwede sa Vanette. Don't know how common the longitudinal mount is.

If you want to save a little bit of gas, it will. It'll also make your van pretty quick. :lol:

Again, as in any swap, reliability and swap issues may outweigh the benefits.

If you want a reliable engine, it's really best to get a Japanese Vanette engine, so it'll be a sure fit, but it's never hassle free.

[pajerokid]

just sell your van and get something which is a better fit for your requirements. Converted vehicles usually drop in resale value like a rock. dami pang issues both for the conversion and regular maintenance.

[vinz]

agree ako kay pajerokid. it's not worth it to convert your van.

[wildthing]

if you want to convert it I would recommend the nissan classic pick-up engine...its a diesel na 2.2L ang displacement. Hard to find na ito lately kasi matagal na ang engine na ito pero it is small enough to fit the space.

[afrasay]

nagpalit dati yun cousin ko ng turbo diesel sa vanette. try to contact him 02-3603268 - Ferdie.

[dindog]

daming kelangan if you change from gas to diesel. Also, baka mangamoy diesel ka since your engine bay is directly under you. Also, tama yung comment ng isa. Bagsak lalo resale value ng van mo if you have it cionverted. I have a 98 exceed 2.0 gas. What I do is I commute kung ang pupuntahan ko e isang sakay lang ng jeep or MRT. That way hindi masyadong malaki budget ko sa gas. I only use my van kung 4 or more ang sasakay. kung ako lang mag-isa, most of the time PUj ako.

[26_red]

it seems walang nakasagot sa tanong mo bro.
sr20 or turbo version sr20det may be a signature engine
for racing sentras and altimas.
ung nissan van na serena QRV (locally available sa pinas) has already this engine.

havent seen yet na converted na vanette with such.
if ever successful yung transplant(hehe), you have one hellavafast van.

meron ako existing na vanette, with LD20 turbo engine
and it even has no intercooler. diesel engine un ng imported na vanette.

money may not be the matter.

etong mga important info

cons:
1) u have to find gauges na pang diesel din
di gumagana ang speedometer, odometer, tachometer
kase di naman accurate ung stock na gauges when it comes to metering the diesel engine. (compatible naman ung sa fuel and temperature)

2)ung mechanical fan ng diesel di kasya sa engine bay ng local vanette
so dagdagan mo ung power ng auxiliary fan mo na electrical. either
1 na pang MB100 or two medium sized fans.

otherwise naka rekta ung fan mo sa isang toggle switch.
dahil di na accurate ung automatic heat sensor.
panlaban ito sa overheating

3)transmision oil is prone to leak.

4)MAINGAY ang makina. thucktchuckthuckthuckthuck

5)emissionwise, pare diesel na yan!

6)u have to secure a good performing alternator, para maiwasan na magmukhang pang motorsiklo mga ilaw ng vanette mo na habang bumababa rev mo, humihina din candlepower nila

7)mas mahal engine parts na pang diesel keysa gas.

8) hard start.compared sa gas.nakakahiya pag tumirik ka sa uphill or meron mga auto sa likuran mo. haha

etong naman mga compensation mo.(meron naman syempre)


PROS:

1)LAKAS HATAK!
2)LAKAS hatak, ulit
3)Lakas hatak MAS TIPID FUEL consumption. i own a sentra 1.6gas driving about 10kms everyday noong year 2000 and consumes 100 pesos. considering tig P21/liter pa lang ang unleaded noon. Now 2006 considering P36/liter ang diesel and i now travel averaging 30kms everyday, and i still utilize only P100 travel with the vanette. PLUS vanette yan. larger seating capacity than my sentra.
4)LESSER FUEL price than gasoline. Diesel is LESS P4/liter than unleaded and a whopping P6/liter sa blaze, velocity and other premium gasoline.
5)waterproof, baha proof
6)lesser maintenance. Walang spark plug replacement every 3months, kakayanin ang Engine oil for 1 year.wag lang papabayaan engine cooling mechanism. so thats, tubig, tubig, coolant, coolant.
7)MAS TIPID FUEL consumption. ang kulit!
8)once u cured the overheating, (which is also prone to gasoline engines) tipid na all the way

there. the experience of LD20T

[niky]

Nice info! Thumbs up!

[alwayz_yummy]

but i dont think nissan sr's will fit, configured for fwd yan, if ever you manage to fit it, baka mapalugar sa covered side ung consumable parts, remember van ito...

ca18 or ca20 na galing ba sa sylvia(tama ba?)kahit ung turbo versions already has rwd configuration.. you wont need to change tach, differential or even tranny...wiring di masyado..will a rd20det fit (in-line 6 un, di ba?)

pero kung ld20 nga, tama ito ung jdm vanette(aka largo)....madami-dami palitin mo, wiring, tranny, etc...

may nakita ko ca20e with rwd a/t tranny sa pinagbilhan ko ng a/t ng liteace ko...swak ung makina as replacement efi engine sa maxima ko(ca20-carb ung akin)...

[kewlryds]

possible engine swaps for the nissan vanette are the:

-z24
-ld20
-sr20de or det (rwd)
-ka24e or de (rwd)

i know of a fellow nissanbayan member whose vanette has a sr20det under the seats.

as for my vanette, i'm still waiting for a suitable ka24de engine to come my way. since the ka-series engine is based on the z-series engine, the block has the same basic dimensions. the ka24e was the engine found in the usdm nissan hardbody pickup (our local 'power pickup'). the ka24de was found in the usdm nissan 240sx sports coupe (s13 and s14) and is currently the engine for the usdm nissan frontier.

[alwayz_yummy]

un "ka" pala!

[OTEP]

KA is the OEM engine of the Vanette in the US. But its still a bit thirsty. Though it makes a healthy 142bhp if I recall right.

[oliver1013]

IMHO Benta nalang dre. Kung yung stock nga minsan pag nagloko ang hirap pa hanapin, yung nagpalit pa nga makina. Tsaka assuming na i lusot mo yung unang hurdle ng pagpalit maron at meron lilitaw na sakit yan in the future na di na forsee. Example sa alog ng diesel na hindi naman built yung kaha to take.

[kewlryds]

KA is the OEM engine of the Vanette in the US. But its still a bit thirsty. Though it makes a healthy 142bhp if I recall right.

i doubt if the ka was the oem engine for the vanette in the us since the ka did not exist during the time the vanette was in production there. the vanette was a mid to late 80s model in the us. it was already out of production there when it was 1st released locally. the usdm engine was a twin spark z24. the ka24 engines however does put out 140-150bhp.

[BoEinG_747]

wala na ba available sa surplus ang diesel engine ng Nissan Bida..(SD23 ata iyon)
ang lakas din ng hatak nito may nagamit kasi noon nag hakot kami fully loaded ako
(mga bakal lang sakay tatlo lang kami tao ).

naalala ko pa cut (sa NLEX)ako ng Baliwag Transit bus hinabol ko at binato namin ang salamin ng driver ng coke in can ,sabay takbo ng matulin nahirapan umabot ang bus .parating pa lang sia sa toll gate palabas na kami

[ravelcop]

mga sirs,

salamat sa pagbuhay nyo ng thread ko. tamang-tama coz i've already talked with my mechanic about this. my mechanic has been working with vanette for quite some time already that's why i trust him a lot for my van (kahit 30kms layo ng bahay nila). it's so surprising na sobrang laking trabaho pala pag nagpa-convert ka. but when i asked my mechanic, it sounded like it was just so easy for him. he told me na yung engine ng sportage or diesel revo are good candidates. i think both have 2.5 displacement. i drove a sportage before and the fuel economy was great, i think 11-12 km/L. no idea about the revo though

gusto ko sanang piliin ang sportage engine, but im also considering the weight of the van, for sure the economy would be different. my mechanic gave me an estimate of 40K for everything, as in everything including other parts and labor choo-choo. although i forgot to ask him if i could have my old engine traded para makatipid ng konti. but he didn't mention any future major problems that could occur.

guys, thanks sa mga answers if i may request, i dont understand kase what those engine names are, perhaps you could tell me the brand/make/model of the vehicle instead. sorry po, newbie in the house

[userfriendly]

If your main objective is to save on fuel cost, why not convert to lpg. Its a quick change, 1 to 2 days conversion. Cheap about P25 per liter. Bi-fuel, you can use lpg or gas. Use your current engine and is a proven technology. Here is a very informative thread.
http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showt...&highlight=lpg