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  1. Join Date
    Mar 2008
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    575
    #1
    Dear Rusty:

    Although one of the reasons that I installed the water-methanol injection system was for the cleaning effect, the cleaning was not as dramatic as I expected.

    On the DevilsOwn website you can see before-and-after pictures of a EGR (exhaust gas recirculation) valve that got cleaned by the spray of water-methanol.

    The cleaning results were pretty impressive.

    The problem is, like you, my engine is NOT a Turbo - therefore it doesn't have the dramatic increase in manifold pressure and air delivery associated with one.

    As I have said before, my system has progressive delivery matched to the engine's airflow.

    Also I have installed the smallest (D01) nozzle available.

    I cannot use a larger nozzle because:

    1) the engine simply cannot take such a high delivery without flaming out and shutting down (flooding on a diesel!).

    2) the alcohol consumption goes through the roof - the whole 2 liters disappears after 15 to 30 minutes - depending on how you drive.

    The small spray makes for a small cleaning effect - unlike with a standard system (pressure-switch controlled) that just turns FULL ON when the trigger pressure is reached - which makes for tremendous washing effect.

    Nevertheless the engine always runs better and crisper after turning on the water-methanol so some cleaning definitely does occur.

    As to the spray bottle cleaning idea, I do not believe you will be able to match your spray to the engine airflow manually, and if you put in too much water - you could damage your engine (the dreaded hydro-lock).

    Another thing that could go wrong is the mixture spray catching fire and BACKFIRING through the intake manifold - with nasty consequences.

    Sincerely,

    Dusky Lim
    Last edited by duskylim; July 6th, 2010 at 10:39 AM.

  2. Join Date
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    #2
    Quote Originally Posted by duskylim View Post
    Dear Rusty:
    The small spray makes for a small cleaning effect - unlike with a standard system (pressure-switch controlled) that just turns FULL ON when the trigger pressure is reached - which makes for tremendous washing effect.

    As to the spray bottle cleaning idea, I do not believe you will be able to match your spray to the engine airflow manually, and if you put in too much water - you could damage your engine (the dreaded hydro-lock).

    Another thing that could go wrong is the mixture spray catching fire and BACKFIRING through the intake manifold - with nasty consequences.

    Sincerely,

    Dusky Lim
    That's what I was apprehensive about. Too little and I'm just wasting my time, too much and I'll wreck a perfectly good engine. Also, looking at the nozzles of such systems, a hand pump would produce a coarser mist that might also cause problems.

    And the backfire, never thought of the backfire. Thank you sir.

Water-Methanol Injection for Diesels