Water/Alcohol injection Turbo Diesel use

[14myXUV]

Bro, you should have dyno tune your ride to optimize its performance together with the Devilsown before that long drive for you to notice the significant difference. My rig is now totally different after the tuning and devilsown installation and I will not be hesitant to use it in a long drive.

So how many liters methanol mixture did you consume Is it not that the pump is pumping dry thus the sound difference?

my plan is to use the car for sometime with the dvlown only and do tuning next/later so i can appreciate the improvement if any.

lost track of alcohol consumption since I was refilling at 1/3 full or so. 50/50 mixture was not followed religiously either as well. One of my rear passengers served as spotter of liquid level. In short, he wasn't allowed to sleep ;). but yes, quite a lot consumed and have to prepare/adjust next time.

[nelany]

Suggest to install the float switch in your tank so you will know if you still have methanol. Berrima has stock so it will not be a problem. Since you have stage 2 you can adjust it to your desire of use. My low it set at 8 psi and the high is at 10 psi. Max boost I have is 12 psi. Doc help how to play on the set up.

[dvldoc]

With the crosswind I would probably put your full point on 12psi, it will also save fluid, You can set it even higher and this will have the effect of decreasing the pumps pressure and you can find a power level and consumption level you prefer.

[nelany]

With the crosswind I would probably put your full point on 12psi, it will also save fluid, You can set it even higher and this will have the effect of decreasing the pumps pressure and you can find a power level and consumption level you prefer.

Thanks Doc. I'll check the 12 psi at full point. I normally adjust the high/full during the long drive to make sure that the pump will not turn on at 100 kph speed.

[crazy_boy]

nelany - sir, can you post the set up in your FM? and how is the methanol-water mix consumption?

[nelany]

nelany - sir, can you post the set up in your FM? and how is the methanol-water mix consumption?

cb, here is the set up of my devilsown stage 1 sa FM ko. Consumption wise it consume less at it is set at 8 psi boost. Refill using that container for city driving is every 3 to 4 weeks for my use.

[miked]

magkano ba yang WAI set-up na yan? may tinatarget akong kunin na pickup 98 model strada 4wd 4d56 turbo (no IC) pamalit sa current pickup ko na single cab.

[rmpmla]

magkano ba yang WAI set-up na yan? may tinatarget akong kunin na pickup 98 model strada 4wd 4d56 turbo (no IC) pamalit sa current pickup ko na single cab.

I got mine 4 years ago from devilsown for around 12K yata but this is the introductory price and wiithout install. Mahal na pala ngayon.

But after less than 4 years eh bumigay na yung pump. may worn out part sa loob. There were post here before na nagka problema sa pump kahit ilang months pa lang na install.

Ayaw ko na gumastos ng malaki, kaya bumili na lang ako ng RV pump sa ebay galing China. so far ok naman performance at very cheap price.

Actually if you can source out for the nozzle, then you can build one on a smaller budget. yung mga push-on fittings and tubing ay mabibili mo locally. The RV pump from ebay ay P 1.9 k lang. check valve is P250.

Para sa pressure switch with built in boost gage, meron pa yata si nap123 ng spare you can PM him.

I would estimate a cost of 4~6K excluding nozzle.

But if you are not a DIY guy, better get the kit with install.


HTH

[nelany]

But after less than 4 years eh bumigay na yung pump. may worn out part sa loob. There were post here before na nagka problema sa pump kahit ilang months pa lang na install.

HTH

If dito mo binili especially sa Berrima, they will replace it agad kung nasa warranty pa. If sa abroad it will take time and money for the replacement. I already computed the kit cost and the shipping cost, hindi significant yung savings (wala pang tax yon) so I preferred sa local nalang.

[crazy_boy]

^ sir, ano yung single cab mo?

BTT: nasa 20k yung price nung WAI kit sa berrima. stage 2 na. but you can opt to buy abroad, sa online ng devilsown.

[nelany]

^ sir, ano yung single cab mo?

BTT: nasa 20k yung price nung WAI kit sa berrima. stage 2 na. but you can opt to buy abroad, sa online ng devilsown.

Without modification just like in my Crosswind (stage 2), you need at least 26K with some of the stuff like the container and the boost gauge belongs to you.

With the mod just like the one I have in my FM, prepare ~30K for stage 1 and bring your own boost gauge.

I would suggest that you buy the Devilsown sa Berrima para madali ang replacement pag me problem even during installation. It will be expensive if you will ship it sa PI not to mention yung hassle sa post office/custom.

[miked]

^ sir, ano yung single cab mo?

BTT: nasa 20k yung price nung WAI kit sa berrima. stage 2 na. but you can opt to buy abroad, sa online ng devilsown.

mighty max/dodge ram 50/cyclone......ewan kung ano ba talaga pangalan.

ang binabalak ko pa naman ibudget kung sakali eh nasa P10k lang.....DIY route siguro na lang. hanap lang ng nozzles.

[miked]

any links regarding sa install procedures, materials needed, etc? cannot be found na kasi yung mga pinost ni devildoc na links eh. thanks

[mateomarco]

any links regarding sa install procedures, materials needed, etc? cannot be found na kasi yung mga pinost ni devildoc na links eh. thanks

You may want to try this one sir... Do It Yourself Water Alcohol Methanol Injection | Before You Begin

[miked]

^how about nozzles for 80-100 hp engines?

judging the parts schematic, DIY level is manageable.....nozzle, pump at h20 solenoid na lang kung may local source or replacement to the ones stated sa link na available locally.

[nelany]

For the DIY it will be ok if the parts are locally available. If the parts will come from abroad especially in the US the shipping cost alone will make it expensive than when you buy the kit. Some of these sellers will only use DHL, UPS, FEDEX in their shipments and we are talking about multiple sellers.

[14myXUV]

* nelany - will add the float switch as soon as I have my permanent stainless tank.

with DlvDoc's confirmation, I added "remote control" to my setup. It allows me additional flexibility when and how much spray I wanted to use. Still playing with it but sporadic spray (vs continuous at a given pressure) seems to work for my style of driving (and vehicle).

Remote Control -- nothing fancy but a wired spring switch ;).

[nelany]

* nelany - will add the float switch as soon as I have my permanent stainless tank.

with DlvDoc's confirmation, I added "remote control" to my setup. It allows me additional flexibility when and how much spray I wanted to use. Still playing with it but sporadic spray (vs continuous at a given pressure) seems to work for my style of driving (and vehicle).

Remote Control -- nothing fancy but a wired spring switch ;).

Once you have the stainless tank please let me see. What is the max boost you have now in your Crosswind?

[14myXUV]

Once you have the stainless tank please let me see. What is the max boost you have now in your Crosswind?

Will do.

Boost is reaching 12psi and get to see those in climbs. I noticed that even at lower psi (5 or 6) i do get enough speed/power that I need on the road. So AI actually helps me more now at getting to needed speed quicker.

Also, just an update on my recent alcohol consumption. Had a quick trip to Tagaytay (4 passengers). Consumed approx 4liters of alcohol/water in relaxed, regular driving. Again, my spray is sporadic instead of what used to be continuous spray. I think this is pretty good. Comments from from users on their own experience?

[light2light]

guys, pls see: epa.gov/otaq/consumer/reports.htm or 'tonys guide to fuel saving devices'. thank you