Used oil analysis of Petron 5w30 synthetic oil

[jackaroo]

ondoy,
Haven't asked the lab if they can do such a test, but probably could. The question may be at what cost. Heard that Monarch at libis also does used oil tests.

Here's a site that explains what used oil test results mean.
http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi

[garyq]

jackaroo

finally got to change oil and try the all terrain, synth of Petron. Bad trip 280/ltr ko nakuha, 5 ltr for the change oil. Went on a trip, Manila>Vigan> Baguio>Manila. Very satisfied with the performance. Sa Ilocos 240/ltr lang yun all terrain. He!he! sa inis ko I bought 1 liter. I also added 2 cans of Per'tua coz been using this since 1993. Less usok ko and ganda hatak. Of course subjective ito. FYI lang. :D

[jackaroo]

garyq,
Glad to hear you're satisfied with the Petron synth. What car did you use it on? I haven't tried Per'tua but don't think you need an additive since you're using a full synth oil which has better protection than any additive.:wink:

[johnqpublic318]

Great infro jackaroo!!!

Question lang.... at what temperature does the "W" take effect. All i know is that this is the viscosity of the oil for "winter". I was thinking since wala naman tayong winter sa pinas, di masyadong critical tong number na ito.

REVX-All Terrain na ako next oil change! Its time to treat my Paj with a synth oil! :mrgreen:

0W cranking test is done at -30 deg Celsius while 20W is at -10 deg C. Having a W rating on your oil helps cold-start performance even in the Philippines.

I beg to differ with jackaroo that Petron syn 0W-30 is only for diesels. That's quite improbable (if not impossible). Read the the label! If it has a "S" rating such as SF, SG, SH, SJ or SL then it is rated for "spark ignition" as well.

Almost all (with the exception of a few) multi-grade oil have both "S" for spark and "C" for compression ignition API service ratings.

If I remember right, many of Petron's oils are from Pennzoil. If so, the Penzoil 0W-30 synthetic carries both "S" and "C" API service ratings. However, pay attention to your owner's manual. Make sure your diesel engine is rated to run on 30 weight oil before using it.

0W-30 or 10W-30 isn't too thin for Philippine temps where ambient temp hardly exceeds 100 deg F. Arizona and Texas summers exceed 110 def F (118 F or over 46 deg Celsius in some occasions) all the time and 10W-30 is still the most common manufacturer recommended viscosity.

Again, pay attention to your owner's manual, a lot of older Jap engines recommend 10W-40 or higher over 10W-30.

[jackaroo]

johnqpublic318,
The new Petron oils are no longer based on Pennzoil formulas thus they branded them differently. Their RevX A/T 5w30 synth oil is rated as API CF4/CF, ACEA E4,E5- both of which are diesel oil ratings only.
They do have a separate line for gasoline synth oils though- Ultron race 5w40- which is rated for both diesel and gas, API SL/SJ/CF.

[johnqpublic318]

johnqpublic318,
The new Petron oils are no longer based on Pennzoil formulas thus they branded them differently. Their RevX A/T 5w30 synth oil is rated as API CF4/CF, ACEA E4,E5- both of which are diesel oil ratings only.
They do have a separate line for gasoline synth oils though- Ultron race 5w40- which is rated for both diesel and gas, API SL/SJ/CF.

Jackaroo,

Thanks for clarifying. The tech sheet on the Rev-X A/T would be interesting to read. If I may ask, because of your handle (jackaroo), I'm assuming that you drive a Trooper. If you used your Trooper's oil for oil analysis, where did you get this done? Is oil analysis service now available in the Philippines?

[jackaroo]

Yup, used the oil from the trooper. I was browsing thru the Petron site and came across their lab services. They were surprised that i wanted a test for a private vehicle since most of their clients sent oil from large industrial machines.
Haven't found another lab that does this service on a regular basis.

[garyq]

garyq,
Glad to hear you're satisfied with the Petron synth. What car did you use it on? I haven't tried Per'tua but don't think you need an additive since you're using a full synth oil which has better protection than any additive.:wink:

Used it on my Trooper/Big Horn, 4JG2. Per'tua, subok lang. :lol:

[RedHorse]

Guys post ko lang price ng petron Revx AT

Petron West Ave., 240 per liter :D

Petron Nicanor Reyes (near Mayon) 260 per liter

[jackaroo]

RedHorse,
Thanks for info!
Is the Petron west ave closer to edsa or quezon ave?

[youngrider]

Well, we are now year 2008, the engine oil brands have updated their service ratings.

I recently have an oil change, using REV-X TREKKER (non-synthetic) 15w-40, API CL-4/SL service rating. For economy of course at P129.00/L.

Con: the oil is too transparent, it is very hard to see the oil level by dipstick, so we just put about 7.O L, manual says 7.2L.

I am new to this oil, I use Delo and Havoline exclusively and my engines are clean, you will not see varnish or sludge deposits when you look inside through the oil cap hole using strong LED light.

When the head gasket, of my diesel engine was replaced, it was very clean inside the valve cover, the former owner said he was using Mobil Delvac MX.

I'm wondering if there are any longtime users of Rev-X Trekker here who have tried to look inside their engine for deposits. Better if there are actual oil analysis data.

I plan to have oil change every 4 mos, Full pass fillter change evry 4 mos, and By-pass filter change every other oil change.

[youngrider]

Sori, API CL-4 lang pala Rev-X Trekker, no API SL rating dun sa label. Okey naman ang hataw wala noticeable changes from Mobil Delvac MX. But let's see after 4 mos.

[raine]

anyone using Petron RACE

[MrQ5]

sayang yung thread na ito,

[bayen]

Used Petron 5w30 all terrain oil sample from 3.0TD trooper (mileage of 38k kms) after 5000kms use, tested last 11 march 2003.
Test results:
KV at 40C 63.12
KV at 100C 10.47
Visc index 155
TBN, mg 14.1
Pentane insolubles,% 0.09

1) Viscosity decreased slightly from 74.3 at 40C and 12.06 at 100C when new, still within a 5w30/ 10w30 spec. Visc index still high as expected from a full synth oil.
2) TBN- from 16 new- only decreased to 14.1 which means high retention of detergent/dispersant additives so better protection from engine wear and bearing corrosion. Normal oils may see TBN halved after 5k kms.
3) Pentane insolubles measure dirt, dust, metals in oil that wasn't trapped by oil filter. Indicates quality/ life of oil and air filters, engine wear. A safe/ max limit of 2.0% so result of 0.09% is a long way off.

Based on these results, IMO, the oil is good for another 5000 kms use but may opt to change oil after 7k km. Looks like a good oil for the 3.0TD trooper! :D

Awesome information shared here chief. This is the type of information I appreciate the most as it is being quantified and very specific.
I'm curious as to what type of oil filter you used with this oil?

Thanks.

[BratPAQ]

anyone else here using ultron racing?

[jackaroo]

Awesome information shared here chief. This is the type of information I appreciate the most as it is being quantified and very specific.
I'm curious as to what type of oil filter you used with this oil?

Thanks.

Was using an orig Isuzu oil filter for that test but switched to Vic filters eventually.
Using Vic oil filters on the Toyota now.

[crazy_boy]

Checked Petron's website but didnt see that service anymore. Meron pa kaya?

[tamundoy]

Meron na po bang nakagamit ng Petron Rev X Trekker or All Terrain sa gas engine?

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