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March 28th, 2008 11:22 AM #11
It would depend greatly upon what the car's owner if the turbo/intercooler upgrade is worth the money spent on it.
In comparison to upgrading using all-motor mods vs turbo upgrade to achieve similar HP targets, the turbo upgrade will achieve greater HP gains for the same money spent.
If you are just using the car to commute from point A to point B, having a turbo/intercooler will generally not be worth it unless the performance of the current car is so poor that it takes a calendar to measure it's 0-100kph acceleration time. This point becomes more important when the car is taken to areas with many tall hills or mountains to travel over.
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March 28th, 2008 11:51 AM #12I don't think the Jazz-City United member was happy with the upgrade or he wouldn't sell his car at a loss. A turbo upgrade will not save gas inversely it will use more fuel. The boost will depend on the turbo size (inducer). You are better off leaving your Altis as it is and not listen to outrageous stories.
Last edited by Si 06; March 28th, 2008 at 11:54 AM.
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March 28th, 2008 12:03 PM #13
The K3-VE is the Toyota Avanza 1.3 liter engine. A bolt on turbo kit converts this to K3-VET.
http://www.daihatsu.com/technology/e...ria/varia.html
magkano? I have no Idea.
Consider this: from 120 Nm/4400 rpm to 170 Nm/2800 Very nice low end torque. :D
92 Hp to 116 Hp.
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March 28th, 2008 12:10 PM #14sir s_quilicot,
Meron po palang thread dito about 4JX1:
http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/forum...er=desc&page=7
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March 28th, 2008 12:15 PM #15Bibili ka ng bagong turbo from bushing to ball bearing type at kung anong size ang kaya mong boost.
A brand new ball bearing turbo from Garrett (good for 275-350 hp if done right) will only cost $+- 600 (turbo lang more or less P25,000) Dami pang kulang for the install at ung sabi ni type 100 na chassis, brakes, at suspension. Ang chassis nga dapat seam welded para maganda kasi d kaya ng mga braces lang.Last edited by Si 06; March 28th, 2008 at 12:34 PM.
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March 28th, 2008 12:21 PM #16
A Jazz/City with a turbo is fast but the problem is not the engine but the transmission. The manual transmission will handle the power but the automatic tranny like the CVT will simply not handle the increase in power too well. This might have lead the owner to frustration and eventually selling the car relatively cheaply.
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March 28th, 2008 12:35 PM #17
hey bro, kung hindi mo naman ipang kakarera ang kotse at medyo konti ang budget mo, then just leave the stock engine alone. specially if your engine is a 1ZZFE.
although you can have a custom Turbo Kit made for your engine, I just do see any point of doing it.. specially if your car is only used for daily driving.
but if you want to get more HP out of that 1ZZFE, you can have a TRD supercharger kit installed. but then again, it almost costs the same as a custom Turbo Kit (or maybe more) but the HP output will be much lower compared to a turbocharged 1ZZFE. coz a Supercharger can be used and tuned to a conservative 5-7 psi of boost, while still using the stock engine internals. but the ECU has to be re-calibrated (by using a re-programmed chip, or use a Piggyback ECU).
anywayz, I would still suggest leaving the 1ZZFE engine stock OR use a Supercharger kit instead of a Turbo kit. since the 1ZZFE engine internals is not designed to withstand boost pressures (even 10-15 psi) plus it will COST A LOT to build a 1ZZFE (Forged Pistons, Rods, Valvetrain components and other related parts to do the job right, aint cheap).
but if you want reliable HP and have an engine w/ lots of aftermarket support.. then just swap in a 2ZZGE (but still, engine swaps aint cheap either!)
aite, peace.
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March 28th, 2008 12:38 PM #18
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March 28th, 2008 01:09 PM #19
ahmm mga sir kiinilabutan ako dun ah ..
daily car lang naman kasi yung 1zzfe but gusto ko lang sana mag increase yung performance ng engine (if ever needed) ..
anu po kaya kung reprogram nalang yung ecu? magkano kaya ..? and ilang HP kaya gain ..
and replacing headers, tailpipe, muffler will help you save on gas mileage ba?
currently K&N filter and sparkplugs palang replace ko eh ..
sa 4jx1 naman tapos nako dun sa problem niya sa injectors .. horrible story ko yun ..hehe ..
pwede rin po bang i increase ang output ng 4jx1 by reprogramming the chip?
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March 28th, 2008 01:18 PM #20
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